Beast coils and quality control issues

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  1. Bigrick

    Bigrick Silver Contributor Member For 1 Year ECF Refugee

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    Look here's my deal. I have several smok tanks and they all work really well once I stopped him from leaking. But there is a new generation of Tanks out there that accept baby Beast coils. If smok quality control is so bad why do all of these manufacturers allow their units to accept baby Beast coils? Now we have a new fat rabbit by hellvape. It accepts baby Beast coils if smok is so horrible why don't we push it out as a manufacturer. And do something worthwhile I own a dead rabbit RDA and I love it. I have an arrow sub ohm tank and I love it. Why do the competitors make tanks that accept smok coils? Ione smok tanks and I like them. But if smok products are so horrible with their quality control why does the people in competition make smok compatible coils to their tanks?
     
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    mkbkr1 Member For 1 Year

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    There are quite a few coils that are interchangeable with the baby beast coils. Vaporesso NRG and Geekvape Super Mesh coils just to make a few. It is a popular size and as long as other manufacturers make compatible coils, then they will continue making tanks that accept them. It doesn't mean you need to use Smok coils. I actually prefer the Geekvape coils myself. I use them in my Big Baby Beast and my Vaporesso SKRR-S.

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  3. Bigrick

    Bigrick Silver Contributor Member For 1 Year ECF Refugee

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    I use HW 1&2 in my BB & BBB. Vapresso I think? Good coils. I have not had issues with authentic smok coils. However the hw1 and twos are slightly less expensive and work just as well. I also use the geekvape mesh coils for the same tanks. They work extremely well however are a little bit more costly. I just don't get it if everyone is so down on smok why do they keep reproducing tanks that accept smok coils? Other than smok has saturated the industry and they're always available. If you make a tank make it with confidence design a coil and continue to make that coil it should last a long time otherwise it tells me you have made a dysfunctional product.
     
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    mkbkr1 Member For 1 Year

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    Smok coils will usually last me 4-5 days. Vaporesso coils, 10-12 days. Geekvape coils, 2 and a half to 3 weeks. I do vape rather heavily, 20-25mls a day. DIY mixed berry flavor, max vg(around 89%), and 2.5mg/ml nicotine. This is why I won't use Smok coils. I have no problem with their tanks, but have had bad luck with their mods (3 different ones lasting around 6 months each), and IMO their coils are trash. You have to realize, these other companies producing tanks that can accept baby beast coils usually have their own coils. It's just that they're compatible with that style coil.

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    IcepickMaker84 Gold Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    I loved the Baby Beast for flavor but loathed getting a 5pk and only 2-3 would work, some wouldn’t even thread on wtf. I found the Vaporesso coils to be just as good in the flavor department and qc was dang good. My Smok mods and tanks were great but those damn coils lol.
     
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    Why do other makers make their attys to use beast coils?
    Profit.
    Smok stuff is known for quality control issues and overall short lives of their mods.
    However they have a large market share of the vape market, at least in the US.
    I assume that smok products have a pretty good profit margin for the retailers?
     
  7. Bigrick

    Bigrick Silver Contributor Member For 1 Year ECF Refugee

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    Yes every brought up valid points and good insight. I actually knew all those answers I just had a couple of cocktails and wanted to vent. I guess folks that use tanks should be greatfull that coils are interchangable, hence available. I also like the Geekvape coils they have a nice lifespan. My favorite tank is a Og Crown. Coils are still available and are inexpensive. Also they last a long time. Like 3-4 weeks if I am diligent. So all that said I am trying to go all rebuildable. But sometimes a tank is just easiest.
     
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    According to my experience, I personally used smok tank and it is really a good one.
     
  9. mkbkr1

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    I have nothing against their tanks, as I stated. I still use my Baby and Big Baby Beast. I just won't waste my money on their coils.

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    ok i will try this too thanks for your suggestion :)
     
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    The RBA head is amazing for this device.
    You pay as much for the RBA head as a pack of coils but it lasts for years instead of weeks.
    All you have to do is build dual coils on a velocity style deck, wick, and you are set.

    Any unit that accepts the baby beast coils will accept the baby beast RBA coil head.
     
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    This is it right here:
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    Bigrick Silver Contributor Member For 1 Year ECF Refugee

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    I have pif'd my Baby Beast tanks, two of them to a vapping family in my neighborhood. That leaves me with two Big Babies both with rba decks. I also have a Prince with rba deck. These tanks perform flawlessly a majority of the time. For the purchase price I consider them excellent. Was recently blessed with some coil heads. Those are for the wife as she will not even try to learn how to build. She will however change a coil. She even knows to change the glass when she needs to switch from a rba to a coil. So having never used the rba in the BB wondering if it will fit in the Aero tank that came with the Legend?
     
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    No it won't, the RBA deck is slightly taller than the factory coil. That's why it comes with a taller piece of glass. It is not interchangeable without an extended glad piece.

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    You use the bubble glass?
    Is that why the glass is important?
     
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    To me the Prince RBA deck is a little better but that's just a matter of preference.
     
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    The RBA deck for the Baby Beast and Big Baby Beast come as a kit with 2 coils, cotton, spare o-rings, and slightly taller glass. This taller piece of glass is necessary due to the RBA deck being slightly taller than the factory coils. That means you won't be able to use the RBA deck in other tanks that can use the baby beast coils. Unless, of course, you are somehow able to find a glass that fits that tank and is a couple millimeters taller.

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  18. SteveS45

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    I am currently using Baby Beast .5Ω Coils and getting 6,500 puffs out of them in TC Mode with my own Tobacco DIY E-Liquids, but I prime and break them in properly according to how I feel what is proper. Never had one of those suspected defective coils. User Error is the most common PC Problem and IMO it goes for coils also.
     
  19. gsmit1

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    The RBA deck for these tanks is eyebrow raisingly good. To run it in the BBB you need the larger glass which Kidney Puncher has in an assortment of colors for like 3 bucks. It works in the BB outta the box.

    I have no reason to ever again put a subohm coil in my BBB.
     
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    I've had one bad one. There ARE fakes out there though. I also suspect those have made their way into a good many Smok tanks.
     

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