My apologies, it just really peeved me to see it wasn't just in that case, even with proof, they have to be right.
Mooch said the HG2, 30Q and VTC6 are a better choice for up to 120W in a dual 18650 regulated mod IF YOU DON'T CHAIN VAPE. In that same thread, I actually even posted the link to the video interview with Mooch on YouTube where everyone can WATCH HIM SAY IT so not only were you being pedantic, but also you are flaming AND derailing this thread.
No, he never said that at all to me , which is what I mean by you backtracking and changing things. I am not flaming, and you was the one that gave a one line reply to ME even though I gave content to this thread.Also, remember mooch doesn't matter according to you as they are just 'his opinions'.
Wow, you must really like AF then!Back to the point: I'm now so dependant on AF's features that its compatibility is now for me one of the choice criteria when selecting a new mod
I've upgraded to AF all the compatible mods I own, and the few ones not supported are being mostly neglected
Recently I've tried for kicks to re-flash the cuboid with its latest stock firmware: what a difference... It took all of a couple hours before flashing it back to AF
, but my silver one is still going strong.
How does your pointing out what Mooch said or didn't say to you contribute anything useful to this thread? Please look up the definition of "flaming". And no, I was not the one who started the vitriol. Remember I agree with Mooch's opinions despite that he himself has said they are only his opinions. I am only posting this so others who might stumble across this thread can more easily see who is just spreading noise to keep defending that "other guy".
I have it installed on all my mods that are compliant. When deciding on a new mod it is in my head but there are other good chips out in other mods. So I wouldn't say it is a deciding factor.
This is the point I've been trying to make for quite some time now... AF compatibility is indeed a major plus, and cannot be ignored despite all the useless ego tripping vitriol that continues to go on against a lot of these AF compatible mods. (Specifically, ones by Wismec/Joyetech.)Back to the point: I'm now so dependant on AF's features that its compatibility is now for me one of the choice criteria when selecting a new mod
I've upgraded to AF all the compatible mods I own, and the few ones not supported are being mostly neglected
Recently I've tried for kicks to re-flash the cuboid with its latest stock firmware: what a difference... It took all of a couple hours before flashing it back to AF
For me it became a deciding factor since I've got hooked to my custom-tailored power curves, and to the fact that I can have the very same vaping experience across multiple mods (single or dual battery, parallel or serial, big or small, heavy or light... you name it)
You want great quality from a mod at reasonable price? Then grab yourself a mech!
Uhm.. if you can't get a decent vape from a build regulated.... your never going to be able to build a good mechnical vape. Where you can't adjust the power output to the build.You want great quality from a mod at reasonable price? Then grab yourself a mech!
This week alone in fact I bought not one, not two, but THREE authentic mechs. (Last one I bought is the HOG V3.1 aka "The Four Horsemen"─and got it only yesterday.)
I know perfectly well how to get a GREAT vape from a regulated. In fact my first successful coil build was a pair of staple staggered fused claptons (5 wraps, 25.5g Kanthal A1 / 4ply .1x.5 Kanthal A1 ribbon / 36g Nichrome80, 2.5mm ID)... this was only four weeks after I started vaping. This build ohmed out at .11 ohms in my 25mm Troll RDA 2. This build I actually chain vaped on my RX300 for 11 weeks. My second successful coil build was the single coil alien in the picture I posted last Tuesday in my reply to you in this thread (7 wraps, 28g Nichrome80 / 38g Nichrome80, 3.5mm ID)... this was about six weeks after I started vaping. This build ohmed out at .5 ohms in my 24mm Goon RDA. Not saying it was easy. But I can attest it was still nevertheless easier than rocket science. Now that I finally own "The Four Horsemen" mech mod I can produce vapor with the aid of Pestilence, Famine, War, and Death.
*ding ding ding* for the comments about how nice it is to use a common firmware across multiple mods! I have two Evic VTC minis on a slow plane from china and will put AF on one right away to go with my Pico w/AF. I don't regret learning the Pico with its native firmware though, it taught me the value of an accurate cold resistance setting in temperature accuracy and consistency in vapor, the basics of TC, something I might never have learned tweaking all the parameters in AF 
Sshhhhhh!! You're going to wake up the anti-Wismec police.
love to add a link to it the temp control Q and A thread, think AF needs its place in there for sure (hopefully keep it clean without the trolling keep that here)
That's it KingPin, the closest thing to a manual that I've found for making changes on the mod itself. Of course with my little Pico screen, the commands to get to the main menu are the same but I have to scroll through to see the selections and just scroll to exit when I'm done making any changes.
install foxit > right-click in chrome > print > print to pdf
Thanks for that I printed it. Though it was pretty easy to find my way around on my VTC mini menus compared to the Pico lol
). I've got a very OG model sitting unused... it gets the AF treatment very shortly.
Yeah that must have been torture going through those different screens!For me it's the Pico's button placement that's more bothersome, hated it since day one.
Some prefer it though... it's a very polarizing design choice.
The buttons on the 100TC are worse in their own way. JoyeTech carried over the terrible third mode button from the 40TC and it's horribly slow to scroll (one way only) through all the added modes.
AF completely removes that.
I forgot we bumped our VTC's power on day one, and added SS soon after as well (I think... power for sure. Much like the 100TC's bump update was there when they went on sale. Odd, but better than never getting an update. JT loves updates.
It's also, oddly, my only "large" screen mod. At least you've been spared the ridiculous way JT has been playing with screen layouts for a year and a half.
It's like they just can't resist.
Yeah that must have been torture going through those different screens!
I'm fortunate in that I just got into TC with Picos a month or so ago, discovered Artic Fox right away and now have a common platform in AF that Im familiar with loaded on my new Evic VTC Mini and using the same setup as my Pico getting the same vape. My timing was just right
I too like the button placement on the VTC much better than my Pico. I was surprised though how much taller the VTC is! Not that mini, a little taller than my istick30 & 40W TC. Nice feel in the hand though with the silicone sleeves I bought with them. Like the Pico, a very solid metal frame. And the battery door has strong magnets it's not going anywhere
Similarly... I don't give a flying whether you give a flying. TC has its place, but then so has VW mode... period.
The Pico temp accuracy on SS mode is terrible, though control is stable. I had to set an m1 to 80 to get decent accuracy for temperature at 400 F. Arctic Fox accuracy is much better with the default settings for 316L or if you load TFR from steam engine.
Sorry for old quote...
Anyway, I just wanted to add that i've also talked to them, and so just for others e.g. reading the above, then it's a problem with some mods and with other mods there are both good and bad so it's a russian roulete as they describe themselves, but not ALL are bad... Djlsb also rarely have resistance issues when checking his prototypes... (One I read actually thought AF with proper PI regulation was smoother than DNA, though only on simple non esotic coils...)
Djl also said that alien does good TC talk to any alien owner lol. That's the problem with taking 1 reviewers word for everything.Sorry for old quote...
What i'm specifically talking about is the primo v1 and v2... I asked which dual-cell mod they recommended to work best, and they stated the primo v1 was good for one of the devs and the primo v2 was good for another dev. They stated often the silver version worked better, though could be by chance of course...
I have a new updated predator with new 510 that cannot fall out and with AF it's crazy smooth in TC and the curve is very close to DNA smoothness! Yet, the new predators also have an issue with common grounding at the bottom, but I seem to have been lucky. Also they stated that yes we see alot of issues with joytech/wismec/eleaf, but they are also market-leaders, or atleast one of them, so we should think in relative terms too i.e. how many good between how many bad...
I'm personally willing to take the chance with wismec/joytech/eleaf, because they are so cheap and if they do work, then you have scored gold in having a good mod with all that AF has to offer you i.e. a DNA lite/budget experience
Btw, Daniel from djlsb also uses oscilloscope when testing and the predator v1 was very smooth too on TC, so I don't see how you can say as a fact that predator is crap on TC... Yours was crap on TC... Also you say e.g. smok can't do TC? What about the osub's TC curve on daniels review... Some devices fail obviously, but we cannot really generalize imho... No disrespect meant btw
Also regardless of it's crap or not, then when I see your reviews i'm always sad to see very detailed readings for everything, except the TC, where you then just say if it's good or crap. I would love to see the scopes as I already trust you as a competent honest rewiever, but am not persuade by personal opinions myself.
Because I found with temp control the scope is meaningless. Take a look at the g class or the drag in TC and it'll look bad on a scope cause they use pwm but in reality they are very good in usage. And he said the aline was good in TC and would get better with firmware. It was never good. It was awful. I can't speak on the osub but of the 12 to 15 smok mods I have they all suck at temp control.Daniel didn't say alien had good TC btw... He said he thought smok would improve the aliens TC in a later firmware upgrade because the osub's TC curve was extremely smooth as you can see in his alien review...
Btw, I don't take only one reviewers word for anything... What I instead do however, is take the word from people which back up there opinions with osciloscop readings/proof of said opinion...
I've watched many of your reviews btw, and like them alot, however, I just wish that when you state something is crap, then you would actually show technical proof of it too
Please don't take this as anything less but honest constructive critique
Without a scope or high speed recorder I would never try to set up a control system at work. An absolute requirement for tuning for good control. Mod temp control is no exception that's why I love Arctic FoxDaniel didn't say alien had good TC btw... He said he thought smok would improve the aliens TC in a later firmware upgrade because the osub's TC curve was extremely smooth as you can see in his alien review...
Btw, I don't take only one reviewers word for anything... What I instead do however, is take the word from people which back up there opinions with osciloscop readings/proof of said opinion...
I've watched many of your reviews btw, and like them alot, however, I just wish that when you state something is crap, then you would actually show technical proof of it too
Please don't take this as anything less but honest constructive critique
I guess a better way to put it is the key to good temp control is consistency. Any mod can give a good vape here and there to make a decent looking signal but can it do it every time? That's why I think one snapshot of a oscope with likely a single spaced basic coil isn't a meaningful indidcator. He's given a pass to way too many mods that IMO do bad temp control
The true reason why the guy you're talking to thinks he doesn't need to back up his opinion with osciloscope readings/proof of said opinion is the simple fact he wants you to just believe him... kind of like the pope also wants you to believe in stuff. Don't want to believe me? Then just compare his RX300 video review to that from DJLsb Vapes. See who has the oscilloscope readings and who doesn't? Now, take it one little step further. Try to find out, by simply searching the internet, how many reviewers there are who also reviewed the RX300, find out what their opinions are like. See where I'm getting at?
The proof is already out there that he is pretty much non technical. All you have to do is be willing to search for this proof, and be competent enough to apply a healthy dose of good old-fashioned facts checking. I already gave you a good head start with what I just told you about the RX300, but I'll give you another hand. Recently he's been spreading the same type of non technical stuff─stuff he just wants everyone to believe because he obviously hasn't got any proof to back it up─in another thread created by him about the 510 on the RX Gen3. Specifically, I'm referring to the part he wrote on the technical subject of Chassis Ground. (I'm not asking you to believe the explanation I gave in that same thread in post #68. Rather, I'm asking you to live up to your own word and do your own facts checking, and do it thoroughly so that you can then get a handle on what this guy's credibility status is like.)I've watched many of your reviews btw, and like them alot, however, I just wish that when you state something is crap, then you would actually show technical proof of it too
Please don't take this as anything less but honest constructive critique
