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grayscale

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I was about to place an order this morning for 2 mods and 2 attys and right before I was about to complete checkout it told me that shipping would be $15.90 - WTF?! USPS w/tracking, that's ridiculous. I buy and sell a lot, so I'm familiar with the general costs of shipping vape gear and $15.90 is absurd for such a small order.
Angelcigs has done away with their free shipping on orders over $15 and they are now shipping by weight. Bad business.
To be fair, they have lowered their prices on everything, and the prices are good, but to usurp buyers with outlandish shipping charges is not acceptable.

Here's the fine print -
Do you need to pay shipping fee when ordering from Angelcigs?

As of September 3, 2014 Angelcigs will no longer be offering free shipping for orders over 15$, prices have been lowered across all products to balance out the cost difference, The fee for shipping will be based on weight for a first class package.


How is Angelcigs shipping fee calculated?

Shipping fee depends on the total weight of the orders.
If the order is 84g or less, we'll fixedly charge 4 USD.
If the order is over 84g, we'll charge 0.7 USD per 28g for the excess portion.
For example, if total weight of your order is 108g, we'll charge 4+0.7=4.7 USD.
 

CaFF

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Guess they need to compensate for seizures and legal bills. Any Chinese vendor with a USA warehouse is gonna feel the heat more and more. ;)
 

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I guess I won't be placing any more orders from them. That's too bad.
 

M5amhan

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they literally cut a lot of prices in half. but those shipping charges are crazy, they gotta work something out with USPS or something
 

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Zones
Weight Not Over (Lbs) 1 & 2 Zone 3 Zone 4 Zone 5 Zone 6 Zone 7 Zone 8 Zone 9
1 5.6 5.7 5.85 5.87 6.16 6.45 6.73 6.73
2 5.8 6.15 6.85 6.99 7.87 8.76 9.64 9.64
3 6.5 7.5 8.6 8.62 10.01 11.39 12.78 12.78
4 7.35 8.75 9.9 9.92 11.07 12.23 13.38 13.38
5 8.7 10.05 11.35 11.37 12.36 13.34 14.33 14.33
6 9.6 11.1 12.7 12.72 13.84 14.96 16.08 16.08
7 10.2 12 13.7 13.72 15.07 16.41 17.76 17.76
8 10.95 13.1 15.3 15.32 17.02 18.72 20.43 20.43
9 11.65 14.15 16.6 16.62 18.67 20.71 22.76 22.76
10 12.45 15.15 18.05 18.07 20.3 22.53 24.77 24.77
11 13.3 16.2 19.5 19.52 22.08 24.64 27.2 27.2
12 14.25 17.4 20.9 20.92 23.71 26.49 29.28 29.28
13 15.1 18.45 22.05 22.07 24.82 27.57 30.32 30.32
14 16 19.6 23.4 23.42 26.2 28.98 31.77 31.77
15 16.7 20.7 24.65 24.67 27.29 29.92 32.54 32.54
16 17.2 21.8 26.05 26.07 28.85 31.62 34.4 34.4
17 17.95 22.95 27.55 27.57 30.09 32.61 35.13 35.13
18 18.3 23.8 28.9 28.92 31.56 34.2 36.83 36.83
19 18.8 24.3 29.45 29.47 32.15 34.84 37.52 37.52
20 19.6 24.6 30 30.02 32.75 35.48 38.21 38.21
21 20.25 24.95 30.45 30.47 33.24 36 38.77 38.77
22 20.75 25.55 31 31.02 33.83 36.64 39.45 39.45
23 21.2 26 31.85 31.87 34.75 37.64 40.52 40.52
24 21.7 26.55 32.85 32.87 35.83 38.8 41.76 41.76
25 22.2 27 33.8 33.82 36.87 39.91 42.96 42.96
26 22.6 27.25 34.95 34.97 38.11 41.26 44.4 44.4
27 23.25 27.65 36 36.02 39.25 42.49 45.72 45.72
28 24 28.05 37.05 37.07 40.4 43.72 47.05 47.05
29 24.7 28.3 38 38.02 41.42 44.82 48.22 48.22
30 25.45 28.7 38.9 38.92 42.4 45.87 49.35 49.35
31 26.2 29 39.5 39.52 43.04 46.57 50.09 50.09
32 26.5 29.6 40.2 40.22 44.16 48.11 52.05 52.05
33 26.9 30.45 41.2 41.22 45.61 50.01 54.4 54.4
34 27.15 31.25 42.2 42.22 47.08 51.94 56.8 56.8
35 27.45 32 42.8 42.82 48.11 53.4 58.7 58.7
36 27.75 32.9 43.35 43.37 49.09 54.81 60.52 60.52
37 28.05 33.5 44 44.02 50.18 56.34 62.5 62.5
38 28.3 34.35 44.55 44.57 51.18 57.79 64.41 64.41
39 28.6 35.1 45.1 45.12 52.18 59.23 66.29 66.29
40 28.95 35.85 45.7 45.72 53.23 60.75 68.26 68.26
41 29.25 36.55 46.2 46.22 54.19 62.15 70.12 70.12
42 29.45 37.2 46.75 46.77 55.19 63.62 72.04 72.04
43 29.8 37.8 47.15 47.17 56.03 64.89 73.75 73.75
44 30 38.4 47.75 47.77 57.12 66.47 75.83 75.83
45 30.2 38.85 48.1 48.12 57.91 67.7 77.48 77.48
46 30.45 39.15 48.6 48.62 58.87 69.13 79.38 79.38
47 30.7 39.45 49.05 49.07 59.79 70.5 81.22 81.22
48 30.95 39.8 49.5 49.52 60.7 71.88 83.06 83.06
49 31.15 40.1 49.9 49.92 61.25 72.59 83.92 83.92
50 31.3 40.35 50.25 50.27 61.75 73.23 84.7 84.7
51 31.45 40.7 50.7 50.72 62.36 74 85.65 85.65
52 31.85 40.95 51.05 51.07 62.83 74.58 86.34 86.34
53 32.35 41.25 51.4 51.42 63.3 75.18 87.05 87.05
54 32.8 41.45 51.75 51.77 63.78 75.8 87.81 87.81
55 33.35 41.75 52 52.02 64.12 76.22 88.31 88.31
56 33.8 41.95 52.3 52.32 64.54 76.75 88.97 88.97
57 34.3 42.1 52.65 52.67 65.02 77.37 89.72 89.72
58 34.85 42.3 52.95 52.97 65.4 77.83 90.26 90.26
59 35.4 42.5 53.2 53.22 65.75 78.29 90.82 90.82
60 35.85 42.7 53.75 53.77 66.49 79.21 91.92 91.92
61 36.4 42.9 54.7 54.72 67.68 80.65 93.61 93.61
62 36.8 43 55.4 55.42 68.58 81.73 94.89 94.89
63 37.5 43.2 56.3 56.32 69.73 83.14 96.55 96.55
64 37.85 43.3 57.1 57.12 70.76 84.39 98.03 98.03
65 38.35 43.4 57.9 57.92 71.78 85.65 99.51 99.51
66 38.85 43.6 58.8 58.82 72.91 86.99 101.08 101.08
67 39.45 43.7 59.8 59.82 74.18 88.54 102.89 102.89
68 39.95 43.8 60.6 60.62 75.2 89.78 104.36 104.36
69 40.5 43.85 61.3 61.32 75.83 90.34 104.84 104.84
70 40.9 43.95 62.3 62.32 76.82 91.33 105.83 105.83
Balloon 19.6 24.6 30 30.02 32.75 35.48 38.21 38.21
Oversized 63.04 67.99 72.94 77.9 96.03 114.16 132.29 132.29


this is the usps standard shipping
they probably add a handling fee
 

Celtic Fog

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that price is related to commercial plus prices shipped over 1500 miles from the original location.
 

Wabah58

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Ran my comparison from past order from 3 weeks ago.

Taifun GT $24.99 Free shipping. Old price free shipping
Taifun GT $24.30 Total with new shipping charge. New price shipping charge added

So I save .69 with new shipping charge now.
 

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Wow, that's insane! I guess it only pays to order lighter items. I've been wanting another taifun, so its nice that it is cheaper now and I don't have to wait as long as I would ordering directly from China.
 

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The old trick, of making it look like your getting it cheap, but then put the price on shipping, I put the akuma mod in cart and shipping cost was $7.50, I've shipped plenty of vape related things, and even with 2 day priority mail, it doesn't cost that much.
 

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Very interesting indeed ...
 

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I purchased a Taifun GS a few weeks ago. $24 free shipping. Now it would be $16.25 + 4.70 =$20.95. Looks like a win when I order more.
 

Angel Cigs

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I was about to place an order this morning for 2 mods and 2 attys and right before I was about to complete checkout it told me that shipping would be $15.90 - WTF?! USPS w/tracking, that's ridiculous. I buy and sell a lot, so I'm familiar with the general costs of shipping vape gear and $15.90 is absurd for such a small order.
Angelcigs has done away with their free shipping on orders over $15 and they are now shipping by weight. Bad business.
To be fair, they have lowered their prices on everything, and the prices are good, but to usurp buyers with outlandish shipping charges is not acceptable.

Here's the fine print -
Do you need to pay shipping fee when ordering from Angelcigs?

As of September 3, 2014 Angelcigs will no longer be offering free shipping for orders over 15$, prices have been lowered across all products to balance out the cost difference, The fee for shipping will be based on weight for a first class package.


How is Angelcigs shipping fee calculated?

Shipping fee depends on the total weight of the orders.
If the order is 84g or less, we'll fixedly charge 4 USD.
If the order is over 84g, we'll charge 0.7 USD per 28g for the excess portion.
For example, if total weight of your order is 108g, we'll charge 4+0.7=4.7 USD.


Hi @grayscale ,

Thank you for your attention on Angelcigs.

The shipping fee include the fee we ship products from China to USA + USPS shipping fee, it's not only USPS fee.
I really hope you could save some money when ordering from angelcigs, that's why we changed price and shipping policy.

Any question, please pm me.

Sincerely,
Angel
 

Angel Cigs

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they literally cut a lot of prices in half. but those shipping charges are crazy, they gotta work something out with USPS or something

Hi @M5amhan

Thank you for your attention on Angelcigs.
The shipping fee include the fee we ship products from China to USA + USPS shipping fee, it's not only USPS fee.

Thank you.
Angel
 

Angel Cigs

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I guess I won't be placing any more orders from them. That's too bad.

Hi @chickenmonkey

Sorry to hear that.
We changed the price and shipping policy for you to get better price. Hope you can still be with us. If you can recall the previous price, you can compare the price, then you'll see that you can get a better price now.

Hope you can still support us.
Best Regards,
Angel
 

Angel Cigs

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Ran my comparison from past order from 3 weeks ago.

Taifun GT $24.99 Free shipping. Old price free shipping
Taifun GT $24.30 Total with new shipping charge. New price shipping charge added

So I save .69 with new shipping charge now.


Thank you @Wabah58

You are so true!!

Angel
 

Angel Cigs

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Wow, that's insane! I guess it only pays to order lighter items. I've been wanting another taifun, so its nice that it is cheaper now and I don't have to wait as long as I would ordering directly from China.

Hi @EthelMaltol,

The more you order the more discounts you can get. You can compare the price and calculate.

Angel
 

Angel Cigs

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The old trick, of making it look like your getting it cheap, but then put the price on shipping, I put the akuma mod in cart and shipping cost was $7.50, I've shipped plenty of vape related things, and even with 2 day priority mail, it doesn't cost that much.

Hi,

Can you recall the previous price of Akuma? Please do a comparison on its price. You'll find it is cheaper than before.

Sincerely,
Angel
 

Nailz

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Hi,

Can you recall the previous price of Akuma? Please do a comparison on its price. You'll find it is cheaper than before.

Sincerely,
Angel

I don't know what the price was before, so sure you are right, but did check the black stingray which I did buy from you for $29.99, with new shipping costs it is now $32.10, but guess it evens out over the board, maybe you can explain why it got changed around.
 
And what really sucks about all of this is that not only have Angelcigs changed their prices for shipping. They now ONLY ship to the US ! They no longer accept orders from anywhere else ! I tried to place an order yesterday to Canada and I ended up having to take my money somewhere else. What a dumb way to lose customers.

It seems Angelcigs now claims that the US warehouse is just a drop ship outlet that they do not control and I am beginning to suspect that they do not even control the website as just last week it was possible for Canadians to order from the site and they would just ship the item out from China to Canada which at this time is no longer possible. This is a ridiculous situation as nearly every US vender is willing to sell and ship to Canada when we pay with US dollars.

Until they fix this they are losing customers and revenue. I know that at this time they have lost me as a customer and my $$$ as well.
 

Angel Cigs

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I don't know what the price was before, so sure you are right, but did check the black stingray which I did buy from you for $29.99, with new shipping costs it is now $32.10, but guess it evens out over the board, maybe you can explain why it got changed around.

Hi,

Thank you for your comment.

I just cut down the price, please check again.

Please
 

Angel Cigs

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And what really sucks about all of this is that not only have Angelcigs changed their prices for shipping. They now ONLY ship to the US ! They no longer accept orders from anywhere else ! I tried to place an order yesterday to Canada and I ended up having to take my money somewhere else. What a dumb way to lose customers.

It seems Angelcigs now claims that the US warehouse is just a drop ship outlet that they do not control and I am beginning to suspect that they do not even control the website as just last week it was possible for Canadians to order from the site and they would just ship the item out from China to Canada which at this time is no longer possible. This is a ridiculous situation as nearly every US vender is willing to sell and ship to Canada when we pay with US dollars.

Until they fix this they are losing customers and revenue. I know that at this time they have lost me as a customer and my $$$ as well.


Hi,

Thank you for your reply.

We hope we could provide service to Canadian friends soon.

Angel
 

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To shed some light here, I definitely think that it is more cost-effective for the consumer now. I have never placed an order with AngelCigs, but I do have 7 or 8 items in my shopping cart (just waiting to pull the trigger). The price last week was $162.XX. I came back this week, signed in, and the same items came in at $107.XX. I then went to checkout and the shipping was $24.

This new format of charging for shipping seems to actually be financially beneficial for us vapers.
 

Angel Cigs

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To shed some light here, I definitely think that it is more cost-effective for the consumer now. I have never placed an order with AngelCigs, but I do have 7 or 8 items in my shopping cart (just waiting to pull the trigger). The price last week was $162.XX. I came back this week, signed in, and the same items came in at $107.XX. I then went to checkout and the shipping was $24.

This new format of charging for shipping seems to actually be financially beneficial for us vapers.

Thank you so much.

You got it!! It is much cheaper than before. If they compared the price they must understand. Let's wait.

Angel
 

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