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  1. lordmage

    lordmage Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator VU Donator Gold Contributor Member For 4 Years ECF Refugee

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    admittedly it has been a long while since i looked into squonking.
    last time it was not a good experience back in the carlos juicebox days.
    i did some window shopping and want to get a best suggested combo from those who BF more frequently.
    i am leaning towards a topside dual and maybe a profile but i am willing to get others.
    what i know i like is regulated but not dna250 pricing. i prefer flavor then clouds
    Agree or disagree suggest others budget just dont break a poor mans wallet.
     
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    KingPin! In my defence, I was left unsupervised ^^ Staff Member Senior Moderator VU Donator Platinum Contributor Member For 2 Years VU Challenge Team Reviewer

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    Single or dual coil atty LM?

    or have mind set on profile?
     
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  3. lordmage

    lordmage Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator VU Donator Gold Contributor Member For 4 Years ECF Refugee

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    single coil and dual and open
     
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    PoppaVic Gold Contributor Member For 4 Years

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    A lot of folks seem very happy with the Topside mods. I've a Basium that is OK, and picked up an SXK Box[er] Squonk that is very comfortable, (and I believe both can be revived with a PWM board if they die). Both use standard silicone bottles.

    The DS/TS-style mechanicals are also quite popular, (Zombie Apocalypse preparations). Neither uses std silicone bottles, but I adapted my DS-style to use one.

    The Reload-S clone I have is quite nice - can be considered TOP air (intake) to side-airflow (output). Single coil.
    I'd like to get my hands on an Asmodus ".Blank" (point-blank) for similar reasons.

    Get a silicone refill-bottle: all you need to do is unthread atty, thread on bottle, and suck juice back into the mod - takes about 30-60 seconds.
     
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    DogMan VU Donator Platinum Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    I didn't get along with the Profile RDA

    Are you okay with clones? For flavour as you have said, any of the haku clones will do well for single coil. They can fit chunky builds. Generally won't clamp thinner than 26awg.
     
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    I think most people are having a Love-It-or-Hate-It relationship with the Profile. No in-between. I don't have one and don't plan to buy one. Sounds too finicky for me.

    There sure seem to be a lot of people who enjoy their Topside squonkers. I am not lucky enough to have one (yet). The best regulated squonker I have is a Desire Cut. Really have found that I get along with mechanical squonkers better than I expected.

    Best RSAs I have are all single coil, restricted DL. Reload S clone is nice enough, but to me the Asmodus C4 blows past it like it's standing still. O-Atty V2 clones are really super nice if you can find them, and Wotofo's Elder Dragon is readily available at a super price these days. Odd looking, though, so you may just hate the looks of it, or you may not.
     
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    ajvapes Silver Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    Profile and Topside
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    PoppaVic Gold Contributor Member For 4 Years

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    To me, the RSA's need to be as leak-proof as possible. Top/high-air.

    I don't care for tanks that pee on my mods, and I don't care to be driving along and discover a squonk has covered the mod and my hand with ejuice, either.
     
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  9. KingPin!

    KingPin! In my defence, I was left unsupervised ^^ Staff Member Senior Moderator VU Donator Platinum Contributor Member For 2 Years VU Challenge Team Reviewer

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    profile gives you options to run on single or dual batt mod so there’s that...but mesh can be a pain in the ass if not set up right (burnt hit from hell)

    The topside has had lots of good feedback so far in the forum for a mod, not seen much in the way of bad feedback yet ...plan to buy one myself

    Atty wise so many good ones to choose from there’s a really level playing field these days...personally I love the recurves (single or dual) and elder dragon ....they are my go to budgets out of everything at the moment
     
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    nadalama VU Donator Gold Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    The C4 is one you have to actually work hard to over-squonk it. There's a video that shows that, but dang if I can remember whose video it is.

    Actually, I remember where I saw it. Hang on.

     
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    ajvapes Silver Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    I tend to over squonk, the first Profile I bought had the Frosted Black Translucent cap. You can see the liquid fill and hold it just below the air holes to saturate the wick before it sucks back down.
     
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    Another for the topside. IMO, no need for the dual unless you plan on a dual coil rsa, 21700 good battery life and plenty of power for any single coil.
    The profile is just one those, you never know till you try, it has put all my coilers on a shelf.
     
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    I can't comment on a mod you would be interested in as I only use mechs. But for an RDA (single coils, indoor use duals) the haku venna is flavorful and leak resistant (the clones are fine and budget friendly), and the recurve packs good flavor and is hard to over squonk as well. If you are looking for compact with strong flavor, the GR1 is nice and is hard to leak as long as you use the small airflow inserts.
     
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    Skyfall clones are also good. Single coil, AFC inserts for mtl and dtl
     
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    Second this, for me anyway, a single 2x700 is fine for a single-coil atty, as long as the mod doesn't have flashing lights and other hoo-hah that drain the battery fast.
     
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    I have been curious about the Skyfall myself. Experience with afc inserts in the GR1 wasn't the best, though, so I haven't pulled the trigger on the Skyfall.
     
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    thanks everyone who weighted in and i will research the recommendations for sure. clones are indeed ok in my book 1:1 that is anyway.
    i am leaning towards the profile for the surface area mainly and while it seems some dont like it i think i might. I am after an easy to build and wick situation that a dripper and driving just can not do safely.
     
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    Topside is a decent mod for the money. The single battery lasts me all day just below 30 watts. I don't need dual battery, but if your a high wattage guy, try the dual. Doubt you'll be disappointed. Gotta love the huge juice bottle too.
     
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    while i wait for the budget for a dual topside i picked up a profile . currently running as an RDA with ofrf mesh for now i used the included shoe lace cotton using a combo of grimm greens tips and Vaping with vics tips on wicking and using the extra springs under the ceramic deck. so far i am in the loving it camp. i think it will be wonderful once it is on the topside. in the meantime i will tame it in RDA
     
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    I will throw this out there but there were a few of us that had issues with the Topside /profile combo. The bend in the feed tube restricts the flow of juice to the cotton and made for a lot of dry hit. The profiles worked a lot better for me on other squonks such as the Desire Cut squonk.
     
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    I've noticed (foremost) that squonking atties really, really vary in their damned 510 holes.. Some are impossibly narrow, and others are fat & happy.. It's a damned crapshoot.
     
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    Pull the trigger. I'm loving mine. Flavor is very good and easy build. It looks hard to over squonk but i'm using as a dripper. I have the coppervape but oos now. This one is still in stock.
    https://www.fasttech.com/products/3041/10054000/9657639
     
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    I highly recommend the OFRF Nexmesh and I have had no problem with either the single or dual Topside.
     
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    I can confirm that it is hard to over squonk.
     
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    I can over squonk or drip anything....:gaah:
     
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    PoppaVic Gold Contributor Member For 4 Years

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    No one is ever going to sell me on "mesh" that needs 2 cottonballs to "wick". I am the cheapest bastard yer ever gonna meet.
     
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    You squeeze harder and longer, you can still do that right? I know you're getting old and broken like the rest of us...:D
    There is a difference, I grab a therion and flood it....just have to be mindful of it.
     
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    the one thing i found about the profile is the wicking is different for sqounking vs dripping Grimm Video is best for squonk. Vic has one for dipping.



     
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    I love Grimm but he is cutting his cotton wrong....If you are determined to cut on an angle for the rda, cut the angle with the longer part away from the coil. and bring the top part down over the bottom. I just trim the cotton to extend beyond the edge of the rda. then spit the cotton in half horizontally, raise the upper half and trim the lower close to the mesh. Drop the top part and trim and tuck...ez pz... works for both squonking and dripping. Grimm has a fear of mesh, he had the same problem with the RTA.
     
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    i think i saw a video that basically cut the bottom half near the plate out and used the top half in the deck without using an angle at all. next wicking i may try that
     
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    Our Mr. Meowgi"s tutorial.
     
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    Oops, for the rta.:oops:
     
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    Hope this clear enough... P6010047.gif
     
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    I think he does that on purpose.
     
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    I said it was easy....When you get a Unity, and you will, it the opposite with a twist......:devil:
     
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    if i had the cash i would have gotten a topside dual and be happy with squonking but one day who knows maybe a unity would happen
     
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    squonking a 6mm wick is interesting

    hold the bottle pressed in, while you read a book page

    dripping might be easier on this one?
     
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    The unity is my favorite rta hands down. Got 3 running and ready to go. Great flavor from the mesh. 5ml tank. Can't go wrong
     
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    there is a wicking change to squonk similar to the pic aj posted you use a combo of the squeeze and capillary action
     
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    keep hanging with the mesh boys and you will be heading down the rabbit hole......btw the topside single is fantastic, I use it more than the dual...:bunny:
     
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    I use the same build either way....
     
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    i think we all do :D
     
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    Great flavor for sure, and not hard to wick. Just different.
     
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    :sneaka:
    Would definitely be better if done again.
     
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    Somewhere along the way you owe it to yourself to try a 4mm single hung just above the ceramic base in the Profile :rolleyes:
     
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    Did you ever give it another go DogMan?
    When it's wicked well the slightest touch off the bottle sends a sheen of juice across the mesh. Only the topside needs a firmer, and longer squeeze to do the same. Leave the 6mm cotton in the box.
     
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    well now i wait for slowtech got the silver dual topside 5 packs of the wotofo cotton and more nextmesh cheaper than local or usa based warehouses all should ship today may or may not have it by saturday went with 5-10 days instead of 8-15
     
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    my VPro ....nexmesh $8.99
     
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    yep that was exactly the way i saw... decided to rewick with cotton threads took 6 but came out great... now just waiting for my topside... now i can use the well better to determine juice needs vs taste which was slowly singeing the cotton.

    edit: also had an 810 to 510 drip tip adapter and using an old universal helps boost flavor and warmth without closing air flow and get you just a hair closer to the mesh. i am in heaven
     
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