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Aliens or framed staple aliens for better flavor?

Discussion in 'Flavor Chasers Corner' started by SiCkHiTrEg, Apr 7, 2018.

  1. SiCkHiTrEg

    SiCkHiTrEg Member For 1 Year

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    what are your opinions between these two coils for best flavor?
     
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    b_d_builders Bronze Contributor Member For 3 Years Member For 2 Years Unlisted Vendor

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    I'm a big fan of framed staple aliens great vape and flavor production.

    Now there are some down sides to this build, due to their low resistance depending on what you choose to use as core sizes you'll need extra power to push them. Higher wattage = less battery life, if that's not an issue for you then they're fantastic.

    The nice thing about aliens it is much easier to build them with higher resistances thus resulting in better battery life.
     
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    I am messing with a framed staple alien build right now. At first I felt like regular aliens gave me better flavor, but then after breaking the coil in a little bit the flavor was really coming through great.
     
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    Zohmbiebuilds Silver Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    I feel what your saying. I know this sounds dumb but kanthal ribbon I like to pulse it hot because I feel like any kanthal ribbon maybe any kanthal just needs breaking in.

    I do not get that need to break in with NC80 and SS builds.

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  5. KingPin!

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    Fraliens are a damn nice like them a lot although I don’t notice a significant flavour difference between a normal framed staple vs an alien framed staple ...nicer pictures and faster wicking perhaps?

    Both are better over a normal alien in my humble opinion
     
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    Carambrda Gold Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    Finally I managed to get a spool of .3×.1 Ni80 ribbon wire so now I'm thinking of giving framed aliens a try. Going to use 29g Ni80 for the frames, but I don't know how many strands of this particular ribbon wire will give the best result on a mech.
     
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    Used this build for regulated myself so can’t comment on mech specs but used 6 strands and Decored on 24 gauage if that helps

    Tiny difference between 28 and 29 gauge so shouldn’t notice a huge issue using 24 as the decore size. if you think it’ll be too tight perhaps try using 25g
     
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    8 strands of kanthal 0.3 with 28 or 30 frames, with dual coils, 2.5 or 3mm ID and 5 wraps work well on a single battery mech, I hope that can help. 8 strands of nichrome would just be better, I suppose
     
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    Tube mechs don't usually have a problem so long as it's a decent mech. I have some trouble with coil builds on squonks like the pulse and ram. You have to build lower to anticipate the crappy volt drop battery sag.

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    Kanthal is terrible for mechs. Even at low OHMs it just lacks. I like Nichrome because I can build coils I like. Just a bit less chunky than kanthal. SS is only good for wrap wire, and fused Claptons. 2x27 2.5 mm 5-6 wraps is already really low .1-.14

    I do love SS for single battery squonking. That to me is where it shines other than super sub Ohm parallel builds

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    Right right. I was trying to give him an idea of how many strands of Nichrome .3 would be good, based on what I like with my terrible kanthal .3; since nichrome heats faster I figured it would be a good ballpark place to start
     
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    To me, the only place where SS truly shines is instagram. :D
     
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    Exactly and some folks are allergic to N80 or SS so its good to have other options as well :vino:
     
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    Meg, all I was saying is I use mostly mech and parallel set ups. I was in no way saying kanthal is junk. I would use kanthal all the time if I was using regulated mods.

    I don't want tm you thinking I was downing you. If your into kanthal, than I'm happy for you. You really helped me out in the beginning. I don't want to get into it because of a preference I've got.

    That is how happy you made me when I got better swivels. Your my friend.



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    That's okay, I am not kanthal so it didn't hurt my feelings (I was being silly, calling kanthal terrible lol)

    I would dig n80 if it didn't tear up my throat after a couple puffs, I mean uncontrollable coughing from a 1.8 ohm coil, to crazy strep-throat like pain from just a couple big cloud rips, allergy I guess
     
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    What are your thoughts on wismec gnome?How good of a flavour it produces?
     
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    Yeah if that happened to me I would definitely stay away. SS is just as good. There wraps don't last as long for me as they do with NC but I have found I love both. I used to really hate SS. I try to vape a mix of SS and Nichrome because if all I vape is SS I come to expect that flavor. It's not better, it's different. There is no doubt in my mind that I can taste kanthal/SS/Nichrome.

    I thought your name was peg kanthal meg that's why I apologized

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    Framed stapels are better than alien but stagers fused claptons are better still and you don't need to spend the same amout of time as the others 28g wrapped in 34g spaced 34g then take two lengths of this space clapton and fuse it with 36g it's miles quiker as you got more room to move with 36g to get it in should come out at .17 using Kan have a play
     
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    Whichever one you can configure correctly to deliver the vape you are searching for. I can reproduce the awesome flavor of my DIY or Commercial liquids in any tank (Coils) I have with the right settings. Like I always say it isn't the tool or device it is the hands using it. Good Luck finding the sweet spot~!
     
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    Ye but that comes down to coil selection end of the day some coils are too hot and take to long to ramp up and then retain the heat and spoil the liquid so some coils are worse in some RDA and rta depending but that comes down to experience not just fanning about with a thew setting s on a regulated device and and twisting the air flow even more so when it come to mechanical mods but what do I know
     
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    The type of wire you use is very important

    This is one of those questions that could go either way.

    If it's those China coil packs then you'd be better off with regular 24ga or 22ga round 316 Stainless wire.

    I have found staggered fused clapton wire that is really good and comes in 15ft and 30ft rolls.
    I like 316 stainless steel personally so that the type of wire it is.

    I ended up going back to regular round 316SS though because like others have said the ramp up time plus you have to crank up the watts which kills the batteries faster.
     
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