DIY kit new at making my own juice. HELP

So I'm trying to save money and make my own juice. I started with a 40/60 batch and it was too hard on my throat. I tried out a few 50/50 batches and once I let the fluid and flavors sit a few days I taste a funky taste. Almost like my coil is starting to go. I've replaced the coil 3 times and I'm almost positive the coil is not the problem.

Am I using too much flavor?

Is the juice too thin for 80w to vape?

Am I forgetting something?

Here's a couple pics of recipes

Any info would help. I just made a 45/55 batch to see what it does. Just unsure of what to try

As with any eJuice, you have to find it's sweet spot. Not every juice likes it hot. Start at a low wattage, and increase step by step, until you find the sweet spot.

Neunerball said:

As with any eJuice, you have to find it's sweet spot. Not every juice likes it hot. Start at a low wattage, and increase step by step, until you find the sweet spot.

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Why would everything I buy then taste great at 80w?

draggin515 said:

Why would everything I buy then taste great at 80w?

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You got lucky. I used to buy a vanilla juice, that couldn't be vaped over 28W, or it would taste burned/toasted.

Still makes no sense to me lol. I'm doing 1 batch a day and seeing what it does. Seems to only have issues once I let the vape sit for a few days

draggin515 said:

Still makes no sense to me lol. I'm doing 1 batch a day and seeing what it does. Seems to only have issues once I let the vape sit for a few days

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At 16.6% flavor you may want to steep that for about 2 weeks.......Got a couple of questions for you to help you figure this out.......What devices are you vaping on?....Tank?......RDA? Dripping? Sub-Ohm? ......Are these all Liquid Barn Flavorings?.... Answer me these and we can go from there......I got a few suspicions......

It looks like you are using VG nic base. Is that correct?

Sometimes people don't shake VG nic base very well before mixing and the nicotine separates in the VG giving hot spots. Then they get too much nic in the juice. That could cause it to be hard on the throat and the taste to be off.

That might not be it, but it's a place to start.

Heracles tank Cigeli and liquid barns nic with freedom smokes flavoring. Could it be it hasn't peeked yet?

Are you absolutely sure you have your nic in a VG base and not PG?

Yes just read the label

draggin515 said:

Yes just read the label

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Did you shake the hell out of it before mixing?

50/50 is pretty harsh at 80 watts - and I assume you're a DL hitter? I switched to 80%VG at those specs, and it was much smoother. Also that's a fairly high percentage of flavor for 80 watts. I'd first try 80% VG and then work on reducing the total flavoring percentage if you still find that harsh. I'm not familiar with the flavorings you've used, so I can't help much with that aspect.

AmandaD said:

50/50 is pretty harsh at 80 watts - and I assume you're a DL hitter? I switched to 80%VG at those specs, and it was much smoother. Also that's a fairly high percentage of flavor for 80 watts. I'd first try 80% VG and then work on reducing the total flavoring percentage if you still find that harsh. I'm not familiar with the flavorings you've used, so I can't help much with that aspect.

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So what would you recommend? Id like to stay around 50/50 and still have flavot

draggin515 said:

So what would you recommend? Id like to stay around 50/50 and still have flavot

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I get plenty of flavor with 80% VG - which is what I suggested above. PG is very harsh for lung hits, particularly at high watts.

draggin515 said:

Am I forgetting something?

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Maybe you forgot to read the "stickies" ?

like this one?

http://vapingunderground.com/threads/finding-the-problem-when-your-diy-tastes-bad.88262/

Did that help?

Ron
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"People think that I must be a very strange person. This is not correct. I have the heart of a small boy. It is in a glass jar on my desk."- Stephen King

Tried one of my other flavors and it turned out decent. Too much apple but it's vapable

Not too sound like a total dick...
But fucking why ask for advice then argue with folk trying to help you?
You asked we answered and you want to pick it apart.

Either follow the suggestions or don't but do not argue with people with a vast more experience mixing and vaping said mixes... rebutting them just makes you look like a fucking retarded douche.

BigNasty said:

Not too sound like a total dick...
But fucking why ask for advice then argue with folk trying to help you?
You asked we answered and you want to pick it apart.

Either follow the suggestions or don't but do not argue with people with a vast more experience mixing and vaping said mixes... rebutting them just makes you look like a fucking retarded douche.

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Not sure where you see me arguing anything?

If you want to maintain a 50/50 PG/VG blend at 16.6% flavoring......that's all good.....Here's what I would do.....Mix my recipe....Froth the mix with my dremel tool that has a 1/8th inch drill bit and a "Diamond" brand drink mixing straw (available at Meijers) attached...... With straw cut in half and bent at 1/2 inch at the end.....Froth until mixture becomes entirely foamy..........Let the frothed bottle set overnite (uncapped)......Cap bottle next day........Steep 10 days minimum...(doesn't sound to me like you are steeping your mixture).........There are many benefits from this procedure, and I can assure you that the harshness will be gone......AND your flavors will have had some time to blossom.......

Flavor Alchemist said:

If you want to maintain a 50/50 PG/VG blend at 16.6% flavoring......that's all good.....Here's what I would do.....Mix my recipe....Froth the mix with my dremel tool that has a 1/8th inch drill bit and a "Diamond" brand drink mixing straw (available at Meijers) attached...... With straw cut in half and bent at 1/2 inch at the end.....Froth until mixture becomes entirely foamy..........Let the frothed bottle set overnite (uncapped)......Cap bottle next day........Steep 10 days minimum...(doesn't sound to me like you are steeping your mixture).........There are many benefits from this procedure, and I can assure you that the harshness will be gone......AND your flavors will have had some time to blossom.......

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Alright I'll try that out. Is there different stages of steeping then? I guess im not too familiar with it

Flavor Alchemist said:

If you want to maintain a 50/50 PG/VG blend at 16.6% flavoring......that's all good.....Here's what I would do.....Mix my recipe....Froth the mix with my dremel tool that has a 1/8th inch drill bit and a "Diamond" brand drink mixing straw (available at Meijers) attached...... With straw cut in half and bent at 1/2 inch at the end.....Froth until mixture becomes entirely foamy..........Let the frothed bottle set overnite (uncapped)......Cap bottle next day........Steep 10 days minimum...(doesn't sound to me like you are steeping your mixture).........There are many benefits from this procedure, and I can assure you that the harshness will be gone......AND your flavors will have had some time to blossom.......

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Also, I've read about a term called "vape ready" what do you do then so I'm not buying any new juice, just using what I have? Any thoughts?

draggin515 said:

Also, I've read about a term called "vape ready" what do you do then so I'm not buying any new juice, just using what I have? Any thoughts?

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For the most part, I have found and many others confirm that Flavour Art can be shaked and vaped right after you mix them.
If you want to get a good handle on FA flavors check out the recipes by HIC
If you want to invest in getting some great recipes and increase your mixing knowledge, click on the link in my signature to find HIC's Mixes

draggin515 said:

Also, I've read about a term called "vape ready" what do you do then so I'm not buying any new juice, just using what I have? Any thoughts?

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Shake-n-vape or "vape ready" usually applies to mixes with lower flavor %s.....there are exceptions though......I have found that Flavour Art has higher concentrations of "volatiles" and, for me, they don't work out very well.....Many shake-n-vape types are mixed high VG....again, there are exceptions....HIC mixes typically max VG with lower flavor %s, as more VG in a blend tends to lend itself to smoother vapes.....And per a few conversations with HIC, he reports to me that he prefers his vapes on the lighter flavor side...

Flavorah is an excellent example of a flavor line that is close to Shake-n-vape, and with a 3 to 4 day steep, gives excellent results......Try Wild Melon at 8% 40/60, or 50/50 and give it 4 days (using my outlined procedures above) and you get an excellent, flavorful vape......

What to do in the meantime, while your mixes are steeping?.......Yes, I know what you mean....I went through that also......Try mixing a blend of PG/VG and nicotine, with NO flavor, and vape that......If your bases ingredients are clean, you will get your Nicotine fix, and experience a pleasant, smooth vape.......It is also a good way to test your base ingredients, and through a process of elimination, can indicate problem areas that may also be contributing to harshness......and also in the meantime.......do your research on methods....

Yes, there are different stages of steeping......I try my mixes at 4 days, take notes, then go back to steep.....ALL DEPENDING ON FLAVOR BRAND......fruits tend to require 1 week to 10 days......Creams and Vanillas require 2 weeks minimum.....Custards may require 4 to 6 weeks......Fruits especially, change over time.....They start out weak, then build in flavor (peak), then experience a flavor fade which includes a "rounding off" of the high notes if steeped too long.....Your best bet may be to work with experiments on single flavor StandAlone mixes so that you can learn the characteristics of each of the flavors you have in your stash......THEN start mixing multi-flavor recipes, after you have learned your flavors