Undecided Wisme reuleaux rx200 or IPV5

JamesV · Feb 22, 2016

looking for some pro's and cons of both. Why one or other would better etc. Because I will be purchasing two of whichever one I choose. One for me one for my whife. She likes the weight a feel of the rx200. We have both been hearing and reading the rx200 doesn't pulse to 200, not sure if the ipv5 might. Though not sure of these facts. We both want TC in SS, TI, and ni200. The tanks that will be run on these devices will be 2 Uwell Crown's. 2 Uwell Rafales and 2 Velocity RDA's. For my wife and I. So a little help or pluses as why one or the other is better choice. p.s. we have plenty of sony VTC5.
Thank you guys and ladies in advanced

James

ej1024 · Feb 22, 2016

Buy em both

Vape On

skt239 · Feb 22, 2016

ej1024 said:
Buy em both

Vape On

There's one in every crowd.

skt239 · Feb 22, 2016

I picked the RX200 because I don't have any experience with the IPV5. My RX has been great and does everything well. I love the battery life and with a small enough tank it's not the worst thing to lug around.

I'm currently trying to decide on the Cuboid or IPV5. Maybe I should just get another RX.

Flightmedic76 · Feb 22, 2016

If you don't mind a little extra weight or size, I have to say the RX. I have had zero issues with mine, and it fits great in my hand. I'm not sure what temps and/ or power you both like to run at, but the 3rd battery really helps extend time between charges. If size is an issue I'm sure the iPV5 is a fine choice as well, but I haven't used one personally.

Vapomizer · Feb 22, 2016

two good mods with different advantages for different needs:

RX200 best battery life of almost all mods in the market, heavier, not too pocket friendly, not the best build quality, not the best 510, has Joyetech's RX chip which gets the job done but not as advanced or accurate as the Yihi chip, can be charged via USB for emergency battery top-ups when you don't have a charger laying around, or when in the car for example.

IPV5 has the Yihi chip which is better than the RX but a little less capable than the DNA200, MUCH lighter, better quality build, has a high quality beefy 510, and can NOT be charged via USB at all if you happen to need it, so you probably have to keep spare charged batteries with you while on the go.

So it is the RX200 if you need the most battery life and USB charging capabilities, otherwise IPV5 is better in all other departments.

If i were you and is buying two mods anyways, i would get both for a chance to try them both out, you can exchange them back and fourth between you and your wife. and see which one you like better. otherwise buy the devices that serve your needs best.

I did not vote on your poll because i do not know your needs and preferences, one or the other is not the best in all situations!

vuJim · Feb 22, 2016

I hefted an RX200 in an LVS and found it fit my hand quite comfortably. The weight was not a show-stopper. Then again: This was in consideration for a at home only mod.

I have now pretty much decided against an RX200 because, quite simply, I don't care to deal with triple-18650 battery sets and I don't really need the additional power/runtime. It was a close thing, though.

I have no personal experience with the IPV5. Have never seen one IRL, much less held one. However, of the dual-18650 mods available today: If I were to push the button on one, the IPV5 would be the one.

Vapomizer said:
IPV5 ... can NOT be charged via USB at all if you happen to need it, so you probably have to keep spare charged batteries with you while on the go.

I did not know this. While not a show-stopper, for me, that's a definite negative, in my view. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Vapomizer · Feb 22, 2016

Also with the tanks you guys have i do not think that the (pulsing above 150W) will be an issue for you, both UWELL tanks are rated for up to i think 120W and no one would actually vape any of these tanks at such massive wattage, and for the RDAs do you actually ever vape them over 150W?

The watt wars are silly, and is not even a concern for most when buying a new mod, very few people actually vape above 100W, so any mod will do, forget about the max hypothetical wattage rating and look at other areas that will actually be used on daily basis.

smacksy · Feb 22, 2016

I love the batt life I get using three batts in the Reuleaux...

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Vapomizer · Feb 22, 2016

vuJim said:
I did not know this. While not a show-stopper, for me, that's a definite negative, in my view. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

I was that close to pulling the trigger on the IPV5 after i got over my initial discomfort with its physical appearance and unnecessary decorative grooves, but the no USB charging killed it for me, the mod does not have a built-in charging circuit whatsoever and the USB port in it is for firmware upgrades only, and i many times charge my mods with USB while in the car, on the go, at work .. etc ... not having this capability and having batteries run out on me with no charger lying around, or in a situation where i can not pull batteries out and place them in a charger broke the deal.

at this point, the iStick TC100W is the only mod that satisfies all my needs and then some more, now i need to buy another mod but can't find anything better, feels like buying a second and a third iStick with all the different color variations!

I wish i can find any other mod that i like soon, otherwise i am all over the new iSticks.

Vapomizer · Feb 22, 2016

also worth mentioning, the IPV5 screen is much brighter than the RX200 screen if you happen to use your device outdoors a lot like in direct sunlight and such situations.

Warranty on the Wismec devices involves a lot of hassle (so i heared, not first hand experience) if you happen to make warranty requests to Wismec directly, otherwise buy from a reliable vendor that will be there for you if you need replacements, i am not sure about P4Y warranty practices though.

I think now you have all the possible advantages/disadvantages mentioned, hope this makes it easier for you to make a decision.

Good Luck.

smacksy · Feb 22, 2016

I still vape my IPV3/IPV4 mods today... about 1.5 yrs old they vape great and no issues to report of any kind..I would get a IPV5 in a heartbeat if I thought I would like it better than my two RX200 mods seen here..I like how the RX vapes and feels more comfortable in my hand compared to my box mods.. Also fit and finish are excellent for a 200w mod that cost me only $45..no problems seeing the display either..I have one in my truck most of the time out and about..just my 2 cents, lol

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OneBadWolf · Feb 22, 2016

Vapomizer said:
RX200 best battery life of almost all mods in the market

How would you rate the RX for scratches?

MrScaryZ · Feb 22, 2016

Due to form factor I would suggest the RX200 and its cheap for 45.00 even though the IPV5 has the YIHI chipsets which have a awesome history it really doesn't make sense to get a big bulky sqaure box..

mjag · Feb 22, 2016

You can't go wrong with either 1, I have both. I would give the edge to the IPV5 in performance though when vaping the Crown with the .25 ohm coils at 60 watts. The ramp up and initial hit with the IPV5 at higher wattages is noticeable compared to the RX200.

If I have to choose between both then it would be the IPV5, it has been my go to mod at home.

I am going to throw another mod into the mix, the Vape Forward Stout. It does have it's disadvantages like the dim screen that is even worse than the RX200 since it is behind a smoked plastic. It uses the same board as the RX200 so the performance is there but for on the go I really love the small size and battery life. In the Stainless Steel version the Stout is also my best looking mod, love it.

Now, of the 3 if I could only pick one which would it be? Since I am on the road a lot I would probably go with the VF Stout, if that wasn't the case then probably the IPV5.

Like I said though, you can't go wrong with any of them though, just depends on how you like to use them.

BillW50 · Feb 22, 2016

Vapomizer said:
both UWELL tanks are rated for up to i think 120W and no one would actually vape any of these tanks at such massive wattage

Robbie Vapes vapes his Crown at 170 watts. See at about 40 minutes.

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smacksy · Feb 22, 2016

BillW50 said:
Robbie Vapes vapes his Crown at 170 watts. See at about 40 minutes.

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There are those that are exceptions that vape that high I suppose, but I'm not one of them..I used to run the .25 in the Crown around 62-65w for a comfortable vape..But now the Crown, along with the TFV4, sits back on the shelf when I got a couple Griffin RTA's...

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Vapomizer · Feb 22, 2016

BillW50 said:
Robbie Vapes vapes his Crown at 170 watts. See at about 40 minutes.

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Where did that 170W come from? He stopped the test at 160W and that was on the extreme side of things, muted flavor, hot lip burning drip tip and the risk of burned hit at any moment and that is only with this specific coil head sample, i wouldn't call that "vaping the Crown at 170W" as if it is an all day comfortable vape rather than one extreme experiment

In the same video he says the best range for him with the Crown is 80-90W

When i used the Crown i was only reaching 60W with it for a comfortable vape, now like @Break-19 i use the Griffin with parallel coils 45-50W max for a warm to hot vape, and in SS TC mode that 45W is only for coil ramp up then the board backs down to the 20s range, that is it

Very few people actually vape all day on over 100W and i even consider it a health risk to do so.

pescadore · Feb 22, 2016

Just get 2 Reuleaux DNA 200's and be done with it !!! Great battery life, customizable, best chip out there.

NinoCappuccin0 · Feb 22, 2016

My friend cleaned off his mouthpiece and the IPV 5 is a powerhouse. I'm waiting on my Hcigar VT 200 DNA 200 box mod and 50a compatible power and high voltage. Both are adjustable in the Evolv ESCRIBE Windows software. I'm psyched but IPV 5 packin LG HG2s or Sony VTC4s will really knock your .4ohms or .2ohms coils out to their potential if your a cloud chaser or use Clapton coils and experience unprecedented flavor for a dual 18650 box mod.

Vapomizer · Feb 22, 2016

pescadore said:
Just get 2 Reuleaux DNA 200's and be done with it !!! Great battery life, customizable, best chip out there.

Only downside is, these will cost him 4 times his budget, with the price of these two DNA200s he can get 8 RX200 or 8 IPV5s, so is it really 4 times better to be worth the price difference?

BillW50 · Feb 22, 2016

Vapomizer said:
Where did that 170W come from? He stopped the test at 160W and that was on the extreme side of things, muted flavor, hot lip burning drip tip and the risk of burned hit at any moment and that is only with this specific coil head sample, i wouldn't call that "vaping the Crown at 170W" as if it is an all day comfortable vape rather than one extreme experiment

LOL He at the very end had taken it to 170 watts and he had taken a vape, but he ended the video at that point. Maybe the cotton finally burst into flames. Robbie also vapes from the Human Fog Machine mod set at 2500 watts or something. The latest version I heard goes up to 4000 watts. It is funny that I don't think I ever saw him hit that thing longer than a tenth of a second at full power.

Vapomizer · Feb 22, 2016

BillW50 said:
LOL He at the very end had taken it to 170 watts and he had taken a vape, but he ended the video at that point. Maybe the cotton finally burst into flames. Robbie also vapes from the Human Fog Machine mod set at 2500 watts or something. The latest version I heard goes up to 4000 watts. It is funny that I don't think I ever saw him hit that thing longer than a tenth of a second at full power.

LOL 4000 watts for vaping? My high end gaming PC with dual GPU, Quad core CPU, and 11 cooling fans in total for draining all that heat runs on an 850W powe supply and is not even maxing it out

4000W that i can use to power up my entire house, not power a heating element that i freaking inhale through!

That high wattage vaping is sure decomposing liquid, wire and cotton, producing a significant amounts of carcinogens and aldehydes and not very smart to inhale, you are probably safer to just smoke at that point, just enough power to vaporize your liquid is just enough and that is in most cases below 80-100W

BillW50 · Feb 22, 2016

Vapomizer said:
That high wattage vaping is sure decomposing liquid, wire and cotton, producing a significant amounts of carcinogens and aldehydes and not very smart to inhale, you are probably safer to just smoke at that point, just enough power to vaporize your liquid is just enough and that is in most cases below 80-100W

Yeah, but every cloud contest you enter you win. That has to count for something.

pescadore · Feb 22, 2016

Vapomizer said:
Only downside is, these will cost him 4 times his budget, with the price of these two DNA200s he can get 8 RX200 or 8 IPV5s, so is it really 4 times better to be worth the price difference?

Yes, but they can be bought cheaper than your math.

Wingsfan0310 · Feb 22, 2016

pescadore said:
Yes, but they can be bought cheaper than your math.

Yeah, I've noticed when people are comparing prices of a mod they prefer, they use the sale price vs the list price of the one they are trying to dissuade people from buying. I paid $113 for my Reuleaux DNA200, under $120 for my VT200, and a touch under $130 for my Special Edition Blood Red Lavabox, the best deal of all was getting my Hotcig DX200 for ~$75 (long story).

My point is there are deals to be found if you look and are patient. I'll also add if I had it to do over again, I would. I've had quite a few mods over the years and I think my DNA200's are worth every penny I paid for them. Since buying my first one I haven't bought any mods other than a DNA200 when a deal comes around that's to good to pass up. Everytime I see a new mod come out, I ask myself is this going to be an upgrade over my DNA200's and the answer has always been no.. I read a lot and I see people that buy inexpensive mod after inexpensive mod that end up spending more in the end than me (not sure if they aren't satisfied or what). I would rather buy a couple great mods, than a whole bunch of decent mods. Just my 2 cents. Everyone is different and YMMV

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Cheers,
Steve

Edit I know everyone's wants and needs are different. I'm not saying DNA200 are the only good mods. I was just trying to give the flip side of the price story.

NinoCappuccin0 · Feb 22, 2016

Wingsfan0310 said:
Yeah, I've noticed when people are comparing prices of a mod they prefer, they use the sale price vs the list price of the one they are trying to dissuade people from buying. I paid $113 for my Reuleaux DNA200, under $120 for my VT200, and a touch under $130 for my Special Edition Blood Red Lavabox, the best deal of all was getting my Hotcig DX200 for ~$75 (long story).

My point is there are deals to be found if you look and are patient. I'll also add if I had it to do over again, I would. I've had quite a few mods over the years and I think my DNA200's are worth every penny I paid for them. Since buying my first one I haven't bought any mods other than a DNA200 when a deal comes around that's to good to pass up. Everytime I see a new mod come out, I ask myself is this going to be an upgrade over my DNA200's and the answer has always been no.. I read a lot and I see people that buy inexpensive mod after inexpensive mod that end up spending more in the end than me (not sure if they aren't satisfied or what). I would rather buy a couple great mods, than a whole bunch of decent mods. Just my 2 cents. Everyone is different and YMMV .

Cheers,
Steve

Edit I know everyone's wants and needs are different. I'm not saying DNA200 are the only good mods. I was just trying to give the flip side of the price story.

I'm looking forward to my first DNA 200 box mod, the Hcigar VT 200, and it's available on many of my favorite sites I buy from for $120. No tax where I live on these sites and 5-8 dollar shipping depending on how fast it's said to ship. I hear the eScribe software is amazing once you get the hang of it. I'm just a wattage vaper so the 50a, 9v power is appealing. Battery life isn't the biggest deal since when I do leave home with my vape, I only use it sparingly. Plus you can plug it in to charge and still use it. I want to hop on board the DNA train because of the internal battery and 50a 9v capabilities. Definitely worth a try. The only reason I don't already own one is because I just recently built a Windows PC and haven't had Windows for years so now it's time

MrScaryZ · Feb 22, 2016

NinoCappuccin0 said:
My friend cleaned off his mouthpiece and the IPV 5 is a powerhouse. I'm waiting on my Hcigar VT 200 DNA 200 box mod and 50a compatible power and high voltage. Both are adjustable in the Evolv ESCRIBE Windows software. I'm psyched but IPV 5 packin LG HG2s or Sony VTC4s will really knock your .4ohms or .2ohms coils out to their potential if your a cloud chaser or use Clapton coils and experience unprecedented flavor for a dual 18650 box mod.

That is the one place that the DNA 200 shines is with high amp loads since it is a readl DC to DC converter and does not use PWM at high wattage loads it has a very smooth delivery.. And Escribe is cool for hard core people but senseless for the masses..

NinoCappuccin0 · Feb 22, 2016

MrScaryZ said:
That is the one place that the DNA 200 shines is with high amp loads since it is a readl DC to DC converter and does not use PWM at high wattage loads it has a very smooth delivery.. And Escribe is cool for hard core people but senseless for the masses..

Yeah after reading about the software, I had doubts about how many of the features I'll find useful. I'm a simple vaper. Suhmohmer, but simple nonetheless.

smacksy · Feb 22, 2016

The Rx200 is a simple 200w mod..I like simple too, lol

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NinoCappuccin0 · Feb 22, 2016

Yeah. I just am sick of external batteries. Nevermind 3 of them in one mod. I build computers so I'm sure I can use the software. Lol

smacksy · Feb 22, 2016

NinoCappuccin0 said:
Yeah. I just am sick of external batteries.

Lol
Batts go for almost two days on my RX before needing swapped out...and if I'm lazy I can use the in-mod USB charging port with a 5v wall charger...its all good, lol

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MrScaryZ · Feb 22, 2016

NinoCappuccin0 said:
Yeah after reading about the software, I had doubts about how many of the features I'll find useful. I'm a simple vaper. Suhmohmer, but simple nonetheless.

Its cool but if you vape alot like i do I would go through all 3 of min charged and more they are in rotation but if I had to do it again I would have never bought the DNA200 in time I think Evolv will bring the prices down and if they make the software simpler to use mor people will be prone to buy them,,

NinoCappuccin0 · Feb 22, 2016

Yeah I'm sure they do. I have lots of batteries and the VTC4s die, LG HG2s are ny favorite, but it's annoying because I like the most powerful stuff. Chip in the mod, amperage and voltage within a safe range for my atomizer. DNA 200s hit all of those.

NinoCappuccin0 · Feb 22, 2016

MrScaryZ said:
Its cool but if you vape alot like i do I would go through all 3 of min charged and more they are in rotation but if I had to do it again I would have never bought the DNA200 in time I think Evolv will bring the prices down and if they make the software simpler to use mor people will be prone to buy them,,

I guess I'll find out. Some like theirs some don't. I'm only spending $120 so it's a good deal.

Vapomizer · Feb 23, 2016

pescadore said:
Yes, but they can be bought cheaper than your math.

Wingsfan0310 said:
Yeah, I've noticed when people are comparing prices of a mod they prefer, they use the sale price vs the list price of the one they are trying to dissuade people from buying. I paid $113 for my Reuleaux DNA200, under $120 for my VT200, and a touch under $130 for my Special Edition Blood Red Lavabox, the best deal of all was getting my Hotcig DX200 for ~$75 (long story).

My point is there are deals to be found if you look and are patient. I'll also add if I had it to do over again, I would. I've had quite a few mods over the years and I think my DNA200's are worth every penny I paid for them. Since buying my first one I haven't bought any mods other than a DNA200 when a deal comes around that's to good to pass up. Everytime I see a new mod come out, I ask myself is this going to be an upgrade over my DNA200's and the answer has always been no.. I read a lot and I see people that buy inexpensive mod after inexpensive mod that end up spending more in the end than me (not sure if they aren't satisfied or what). I would rather buy a couple great mods, than a whole bunch of decent mods. Just my 2 cents. Everyone is different and YMMV .

Cheers,
Steve

Edit I know everyone's wants and needs are different. I'm not saying DNA200 are the only good mods. I was just trying to give the flip side of the price story.

All fanboyism aside, my math is accurate, according to the cheapest Chinese retailers' prices, eFun, Fasttech etc .. DNA200 mods go for around $140-149 and RX/Yihi mods go from $30-43 so a DNA200 device costs 4 TIMES more on average than an RX or a Yihi device (IPV5 on pre-order for $35 at eFun).

Reason i bring that up is personal experience, i have always wanted to buy a DNA200 device, i am a tinkerer and a tech savvy vaper and would utilize the DNA200/Escribe fully, but every time i attempt ordering a DNA200 device and see the prices difference i think to myself would it vape 4 times better? and the answer is always NO, this is why i did not buy a DNA200 device until now, maybe if i was given one or win one in a giveaway i would be so happy with it, but having to buy it at $140 when there are very decent RX/Yihi mods around for $30-43 that gets the job done makes it very hard to justify a DNA200 purchase at that price point.

EDIT: that makes losing/breaking/spilling liquid on a DNA200 device a much more costly mistake, would be like breaking a medium-range mobile/tablet, and would annoy me a lot if it happens, but for an RX/Yihi device this same situation will be like breaking a cheap Chinese toy, move on, buy another one and call it a day!

Also most DNA200 devices' housing enclosure quality, durability, construction and finish, do not match the quality and value of the board inside which makes it worse, if a manufacturer comes out with a DNA200 device with a housing, buttons, 510 etc.. that matches a high-end phone or personal electronic device and give 2 or 3 years hassle-free warranty for it then this would be a different story, but it is not currently the case.

Wingsfan0310 · Feb 23, 2016

Vapomizer said:
All fanboyism aside, my math is accurate, according to the cheapest Chinese retailers' prices, eFun, Fasttech etc .. DNA200 mods go for around $140-149 and RX/Yihi mods go from $30-43 so a DNA200 device costs 4 TIMES more on average than an RX or a Yihi device (IPV5 on pre-order for $35 at eFun).

Reason i bring that up is personal experience, i have always wanted to buy a DNA200 device, i am a tinkerer and a tech savvy vaper and would utilize the DNA200/Escribe fully, but every time i attempt ordering a DNA200 device and see the prices difference i think to myself would it vape 4 times better? and the answer is always NO, this is why i did not buy a DNA200 device until now, maybe if i was given one or win one in a giveaway i would be so happy with it, but having to buy it at $140 when there are very decent RX/Yihi mods around for $30-43 that gets the job done makes it very hard to justify a DNA200 purchase at that price point.

EDIT: that makes losing/breaking/spilling liquid on a DNA200 device a much more costly mistake, would be like breaking a medium-range mobile/tablet, would annoy me a lot if it happens, but for an RX/Yihi device this same situation will be like breaking a cheap Chinese, move on, buy another one and call it a day!

Also most DNA200 devices' housing enclosure quality, durability, construction and finish, do not match the quality and value of the board inside which makes it worse, if a manufacturer comes out with a DNA200 device with a housing, buttons, 510 etc.. that matches a high-end phone or personal electronic device and give 2 or 3 years hassle-free warranty for it then this would be a different story, but it is not currently the case.

Three things
1. I can order a VT200 for $119.99 shipped right now (Vape NW and Ecig.com). Just because you say they cost over $140-$149 doesn't make it so!
2. You have decided they are not worth the money without ever trying/owning one. That's an uninformed decision imo. That's like me saying without ever owning a Ferrari, it's not worth the money because I can get a Chevy 4 times cheaper lol
3. To go with point #2. How can say without question you know how well they vape without ever owning one. Answer- You can't.

Now if you owned the mods you are comparing, what you have to say about their relative worth might hold some validity. Since you don't, your just guessing

Edit I just checked FastTech and you can get the VT200 for $123 and change shipped with the 10% off coupon code

Vapomizer · Feb 23, 2016

Wingsfan0310 said:
1. I can order a VT200 for $119.99 shipped right now (Vape NW and Ecig.com). Just because you say they cost over $140-$149 doesn't make it so!

These are US only stores i suppose, and what difference does it make going from $140 down to $120? that will make it 3 times more expensive instead of 4? still the idea is the same!

The cheapest you can get these devices outside the US is to source them from China and the cheapest price for the Wismec DNA200 i have seen is $140 without coupon and that is before shipment. and that is not because i am "saying they cost that much" go check these sites yourself and see the listed prices.

Using a coupon would reduce the prices both ways so the 4 times more expensive ratio will hold.

Wingsfan0310 said:
2. You have decided they are not worth the money without ever trying/owning one. That's an uninformed decision imo. That's like me saying without ever owning a Ferrari, it's not worth the money because I can get a Chevy 4 times cheaper lol

a vaping device is not as complex piece of hardware as a car so your analogy is irrelevant, it is just a DC regulator, some does it slightly better than others, how much better can you heat or pre-heat a metal? can some do it 4 times better than others? i am asking not stating ... how much more enjoyable a perfect DC regulator would provide over a less than perfect one?

Also it is not a Ferrari if it has a Ferrari motor in a Chevy housing which is the case with most DNA200 devices (using your car analogy) top of the line board housed in less than perfect enclosures and with shitty battery life in most cases.

Wingsfan0310 said:
3. To go with point #2. How can say without question you know how well they vape without ever owning one. Answer- You can't.

i did not say anything "without question" or state anything as a FACT, just wondering if it is that much better? in a form of a question, and by what means it is 4 times better? instant ramp up instead of milliseconds of wait? 10% more accurate temperature? some "nice-to-have" diagnostic tools? what more does it offer?

Wingsfan0310 said:
Now if you owned the mods you are comparing, what you have to say about their relative worth might hold some validity. Since you don't, your just guessing

Of course i am rationally guessing, don't we all "guess" before making any purchase of a product we never owned before? hell this whole forum is made for guessing, people wanting to buy stuff and trying to guess their relative worth/value by asking others, nothing different here.

Wingsfan0310 said:
Edit I just checked FastTech and you can get the VT200 for $123 and change shipped with the 10% off coupon code

Yes, same coupon code i could use to get the iStick for $28 or any other RX/Yihi device for 10% less, ratio does not change a DNA200 device is 4 times more expensive than an RX/Yihi device under the same conditions, from the same source and using the same coupon, just make your calculations consistent across the board, don't be a fanboy LOL

pescadore · Feb 23, 2016

Vapomizer said:
These are US only stores i suppose, and what difference does it make going from $140 down to $120? that will make it 3 times more expensive instead of 4? still the idea is the same!

The cheapest you can get these devices outside the US is to source them from China and the cheapest price for the Wismec DNA200 i have seen is $140 without coupon and that is before shipment. and that is not because i am "saying they cost that much" go check these sites yourself and see the listed prices.

Using a coupon would reduce the prices both ways so the 4 times more expensive ratio will hold.

a vaping device is not as complex piece of hardware as a car so your analogy is irrelevant, it is just a DC regulator, some does it slightly better than others, how much better can you heat or pre-heat a metal? can some do it 4 times better than others? i am asking not stating ... how much more enjoyable a perfect DC regulator would provide over a less than perfect one?

Also it is not a Ferrari if it has a Ferrari motor in a Chevy housing which is the case with most DNA200 devices (using your car analogy) top of the line board housed in less than perfect enclosures and with shitty battery life in most cases.

i did not say anything "without question" or state anything as a FACT, just wondering if it is that much better? in a form of a question, and by what means it is 4 times better? instant ramp up instead of milliseconds of wait? 10% more accurate temperature? some "nice-to-have" diagnostic tools? what more does it offer?

Of course i am rationally guessing, don't we all "guess" before making any purchase of a product we never owned before? hell this whole forum is made for guessing, people wanting to buy stuff and trying to guess their relative worth/value by asking others, nothing different here.

Yes, same coupon code i could use to get the iStick for $28 or any other RX/Yihi device for 10% less, ratio does not change a DNA200 device is 4 times more expensive than an RX/Yihi device under the same conditions, from the same source and using the same coupon, just make your calculations consistent across the board, don't be a fanboy LOL

I have to side with Wingsfan0310 on this one. I have had several inexpensive mods and there truly is no comparison with the quality of vaping experience that you get with them compared to the DNA 200. I still use my Joytech Evic Mini as a tote around vape at times and I like it but honestly the quality of the vape does not compare to my DNA 200's. It's hard to describe the DNA 200 but it's just a smoother vape (if that makes any sense). I don't proclaim to be a vaping expert by any means but if you haven't tried them then you can't really compare them. I enjoy using customized screens, accurate temperature control, and fine tuning my mod to do what I want it to do. I just can't achieve the same results from anything less than a DNA 200 mod. I have spent a lot of money on cheaper mods prior to the DNA 200's so I have used both. I have thrown away several of them after they broke or malfunctioned. I have three DNA 200 mods and they all function perfectly as they did from the day I bought them and I have never had even a hint of a problem with any of them. The Reuleaux DNA 200 is my everyday vape and the HCigar VT200 is my wifes everyday vape and neither of us would want to vape on anything less. By the way, I let my wife borrow the VT200 because her cheap mod broke and now I can't pry it away from her because she loves it that much. I offered to buy her another mod of her choosing and she said she wouldn't give the VT200 up for anything else. Call me a fanboy if you want but I just vape on what I like and have no problem with you vaping on what you like. If I make a recommendation to someone to buy a DNA 200 device it is just because I have tried the others and for me it is well worth the money. That may not be the case for you and that's okay too.

Wingsfan0310 · Feb 23, 2016

Vapomizer said:
These are US only stores i suppose, and what difference does it make going from $140 down to $120? that will make it 3 times more expensive instead of 4? still the idea is the same!

The cheapest you can get these devices outside the US is to source them from China and the cheapest price for the Wismec DNA200 i have seen is $140 without coupon and that is before shipment. and that is not because i am "saying they cost that much" go check these sites yourself and see the listed prices.

Using a coupon would reduce the prices both ways so the 4 times more expensive ratio will hold.

a vaping device is not as complex piece of hardware as a car so your analogy is irrelevant, it is just a DC regulator, some does it slightly better than others, how much better can you heat or pre-heat a metal? can some do it 4 times better than others? i am asking not stating ... how much more enjoyable a perfect DC regulator would provide over a less than perfect one?

Also it is not a Ferrari if it has a Ferrari motor in a Chevy housing which is the case with most DNA200 devices (using your car analogy) top of the line board housed in less than perfect enclosures and with shitty battery life in most cases.

i did not say anything "without question" or state anything as a FACT, just wondering if it is that much better? in a form of a question, and by what means it is 4 times better? instant ramp up instead of milliseconds of wait? 10% more accurate temperature? some "nice-to-have" diagnostic tools? what more does it offer?

Of course i am rationally guessing, don't we all "guess" before making any purchase of a product we never owned before? hell this whole forum is made for guessing, people wanting to buy stuff and trying to guess their relative worth/value by asking others, nothing different here.

Yes, same coupon code i could use to get the iStick for $28 or any other RX/Yihi device for 10% less, ratio does not change a DNA200 device is 4 times more expensive than an RX/Yihi device under the same conditions, from the same source and using the same coupon, just make your calculations consistent across the board, don't be a fanboy LOL

I'm not a fanboi of the DNA200's, however I am a fan. The difference being I see the pluses and minuses. Unlike you I have actually tried and own the device I'm talking about. When you own a device and give actual facts about it, I don't call that being a fanboi. When you've never owned the device and try to act like an expert nonetheless, I call that not knowing your ass from a hole in the ground! I guess you must of spent the night in a Holiday Inn so that makes you an authority on everything.

PS You talked about spending $90 on a Cuboid in the your thread awhile back (originally titled "Worst Product Quality in the Universe! Horrible! Horrendous!"). Now you act like $123 and change is expensive for a DNA200.

Vapomizer · Feb 23, 2016

Ok here are the advantages i was able to extract from your text, and don't tell me that it is hard to describe, anything that has a true measurable benefit is describable, other indescribable feelings fall in the realms of fanboyism:

pescadore said:
smoother vape

So it is between a Smooth vape at $40 and a smoothER vape at $140 .. ok

pescadore said:
customized screens

Really? how long do you spend looking at your mod's screens?

pescadore said:
accurate temperature control

Yeah .. all other mods are "accurate" too, given that they only guess the wire temp by its resistance using a single TCR value and the DNA200 is no different. and please do not talk about CSV files and intervals that do not work for anyone LOL

pescadore said:
fine tuning my mod to do what I want it to do

Tuning = pre-heat time and power .. that is it ... what else can you tune?

Wingsfan0310 said:
When you own a device and give actual facts about it

What facts? here are the facts you have given me so far:

Wingsfan0310 said:
I call that not knowing your ass from a hole in the ground!

Wingsfan0310 said:
you must of spent the night in a Holiday Inn so that makes you an authority on everything.

Wingsfan0310 said:
PS You talked about spending $90 on a Cuboid

it was $70 not $90 and i would have paid $235 for a DNA200 device had i bought it from Europe, still the 3-4 times more expensive formula applies,

How about those for "facts" about the device? still nothing tenable or describable, you are just a fanboy not knowing how to describe the benefits of the device you go around the forums recommending like crazy in every thread and every opportunity you get to do so, for you it is "get DNA200 device" all day long and actually nobody is taking your advice for it, everyone is just getting other RX/Yihi devices that vape just fine and totally ignoring your 24/7 Fanboyism LOL

Wingsfan0310 said:
Now you act like $123 and change is expensive for a DNA200

Yes it is very expensive for no rational reason, even a fanboy like you who owned both devices, and used all devices and all that shit can not justify the price of a DNA200 device with solid, reasonable and measurable benefits that makes it vape 3 or 4 times better, just face it, you are a fanboy and the DNA200 is not worth all that much and you are butt hurt because everyone else is enjoying their devices that cost 1/4 of the price and ignoring your fanboyism

pescadore · Feb 23, 2016

I currently drive a Mazda SUV but if I could afford one I would drive a Land Rover. They would both get me to work but are different animals. This is getting old because you have never owned a DNA 200 so you are tallking out of your a$$. Enjoy your budget vape !!!

Vapomizer · Feb 23, 2016

pescadore said:
I currently drive a Mazda SUV but if I could afford one I would drive a Land Rover. They would both get me to work but are different animals. This is getting old because you have never owned a DNA 200 so you are tallking out of your a$$. Enjoy your budget vape !!!

a mod is not a car, stupid irrelevant analogy, it is a simple DC regulator that heats a wire, probably your DNA200 devices are connected to your butts and making it hurt like crazy, i feel sorry for you, my "budget" vape is working great for me and 99% of other vapers, no one cares about your ripoff DNA200 device, i just saw you in the other thread saying that you take your Evic VTC with you to work everyday and charge it with USB and all that shit, what happened to your "Land Rover"? do you just leave it home or is it too expensive for your ass to take it out and risk losing or breaking it? LOL pathetic the type of mentality of DNA200 fanboys!

Wingsfan0310 · Feb 23, 2016

pescadore said:
I currently drive a Mazda SUV but if I could afford one I would drive a Land Rover. They would both get me to work but are different animals. This is getting old because you have never owned a DNA 200 so you are tallking out of your a$$. Enjoy your budget vape !!!

Agreed, I'm done debating with him. He just regurgitates second hand information as if it was fact.

Cheers,
Steve

Vapomizer · Feb 23, 2016

Wingsfan0310 said:
Agreed, I'm done debating with him. He just regurgitates second hand information as if it was fact.

Cheers,
Steve

Didn't see your facts yet, what are the tangible and measurable benefits of a DNA200 device that makes it significantly better than other decent devices in the market? give me a list of 5 SOLID FACTS, convince me to shell $140 to buy one, come on ... is it that hard to describe?

VapeVillian · Feb 23, 2016

Rx200 without a doubt. I have pretty much retired my LiVr, Snow Wolf, and mini mods as I do not find them usable anymore. I know someone posted about the build quality (which I have to say is near perfect) and about the chip not being as good as the Yihi chip. I have to disagree. I use all 3 of those atomizers with my Rx200 and they all fit and work like a charm. As of the 3.00 update, being able to change the TCR is absolutely amazing to getting your perfect TC vape. Don't use nickel, but titanium and 316l and 317 SS are both phenominal. Hope this helps.

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FriscoWeather · Feb 24, 2016

This discussion reminds me of the old Provari wars where many people believed it to be overpriced. I got the Provari and guess what? It still works like a champ after many years of use.

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BillW50 · Feb 24, 2016

FriscoWeather said:
This discussion reminds me of the old Provari wars where many people believed it to be overpriced. I got the Provari and guess what? It still works like a champ after many years of use.

I got tons of mods that still work great after all of these years. I have no Provari mods though.

Undecided Wisme reuleaux rx200 or IPV5

Which 200watt TC device with Ni200,Ti, ss

Wismeic JayBo RX200

iPV5

Other - list in a post device and why

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