Plume Veil, Veritas, Tobh, or Quasar?

R3alJim Shady · Aug 26, 2014

Hey all,

Got a black Stingray X clone on the way and, of course, I would like a new RDA to top it. I already have a Stillare and a Magma, both of which I love for different reasons.

I'd like to blow some big clouds with this bad boy, but I don't want to lose a ton of flavor either. Recommendations??

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scottw · Aug 26, 2014

Plume in black. I like it the best out of all of those you listed!

R3alJim Shady · Aug 26, 2014

Yeah? I was thinking of copper, but have no idea how it would look. My Other two atties are black, so I was thinking about a change of pace... but once you go black...

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scottw · Aug 26, 2014

Hahaha. Copper is sweet too! Can't go wrong with either. I just love the plume

VapedCrusader · Aug 26, 2014

Plume or the new Mutation X

WiSilverVape · Aug 26, 2014

the stainless plume veil on my stingray x with the stingray x driptip is just plain sexy.........yeah, in hybrid mode.....outstanding dripper, outstanding mod, I'm in love

M5amhan · Aug 26, 2014

plume veil for sure. here is a link for an SXK manufactured one (infinite basically). they're always sold out but here's a link just in case https://www.vapingwalrus.com/rebuildable-atomizers/plumeveil-black

Ace · Aug 26, 2014

CLT by infinite

KKen · Aug 27, 2014

Never tried the PV or Veritas, but currently own the Quasar and used to have a Tobh v2.5.

Vapor producing wise, ease of use, conductivity, and overall quality with the Tobh was very impressive, but I found it to severely lack in the flavor department, not to mention the draw was way too airy for me, even in the smallest setting.

The Quasar is great, but without having tried the other two, my recommendation doesn't really hold any weight, However, since you already have a 3 post atty that I assume you like, why not move toward something else? The PV and Veritas is something completely different from what you currently have, and based on the many reviews I've seen/read on both of them, overall consensus seems to give them both very high marks for flavor and vapor.

R3alJim Shady · Aug 27, 2014

Ordered myself a PV in copper. And now, we wait!

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skenzer · Aug 27, 2014

Love my Quasar for flavor! The others are excellent as well but I just keep going back to my quasar.

VapingHippie · Aug 27, 2014

I stay with my patriot and TOBH for the ease of building on them.
The TOBH does have an airy draw though.
I do have a 5 post rda that hits like a beast but every time I have to do a build on it I want to throw it across the room.

chris damron · Aug 27, 2014

Quasar is awesome for flavor but has a slightly tighter draw. Plume veil is gonna be your best bet for performance, but the Veritas is AMAZING for flavor and convenience. I take it out with me now in place of my tanks because of it's capacity.

Dutzy · Aug 28, 2014

It isn't a black one but the copper Tobh looks pretty nice on it.

MoFo · Aug 28, 2014

I'm in love with the plumeveil. It's my favorite atty at the moment. Great flavor and huge clouds, you can't go wrong.

VH fan · Aug 28, 2014

I have tried most of them and i keep going back to the Magma lol, at first i thought it was unbeatable for flavor then i misaligned the air holes when i refilled which killed the vape .

When you line it up correctly so both air holes are open and build a large coil , 1/8 mandrel preferred (you only need one ) it's a cloud and flavor machine , so good in fact i bought another .

Nothing else compares imo

Just bought a Veritas due to it's non leaking reputation and deep juice well . The 454 big block looks interesting as does the Viking.

MoFo · Aug 28, 2014

VH fan said:
I have tried most of them and i keep going back to the Magma lol, at first i thought it was unbeatable for flavor then i misaligned the air holes when i refilled which killed the vape .

When you line it up correctly so both air holes are open and build a large coil , 1/8 mandrel preferred (you only need one ) it's a cloud and flavor machine , so good in fact i bought another .

Nothing else compares imo

Just bought a Veritas due to it's non leaking reputation and deep juice well . The 454 big block looks interesting as does the Viking.

Have you tried had a chance to try a plumeveil? I have a magma and while it produces decent flavor, I think the plume has it beat, but then again I haven't been able to throw dual parallels in the magma yet because of the post holes, so that may have something to do with it. I like the 454 big block, I threw dual, vertical, parallels in it and it performs like a champ. I'm just really digging the plume though... I'm getting awesome flavor and huge clouds from it. Put it on your list and if you don't like it I'll buy it from you!

R3alJim Shady · Aug 29, 2014

I can't wait to get my Plume Veil in! It's supposed to ship Monday or Tuesday. I think it's genius how you screw down the drip tip insulator to shorten the chamber to get more flavor, but you don't lose airflow because it opens the air holes on the top. Sometimes I wish I went to school for engineering...

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vapedee · Aug 29, 2014

Plume Veil and Veritas clones www.evapinguk.co.uk
Plume Veil beautiful to hold in s/s with gold plated drip well plenty of airflow features and adjustable centre posts - Veritas in black, brass and s/s great cloud machine and best seller on par with Plume Veil sales. Happy dripping

VH fan · Aug 29, 2014

MoFo said:
Have you tried had a chance to try a plumeveil? I have a magma and while it produces decent flavor, I think the plume has it beat, but then again I haven't been able to throw dual parallels in the magma yet because of the post holes, so that may have something to do with it. I like the 454 big block, I threw dual, vertical, parallels in it and it performs like a champ. I'm just really digging the plume though... I'm getting awesome flavor and huge clouds from it. Put it on your list and if you don't like it I'll buy it from you!

I have tried it and it's good but you got to remember every individual will think one is better than the others based on their individual experience . I have never read anywhere, and i read a lot, that the Magma produces decent flavor .

It seems anywhere i go and read about it , it is by far and away the overwhelming pick if flavor is your main goal . My experience with it confirms this to me, and i do a simple build on it . I can't wrap my mind around how good it could be with more technical builds.

If your only getting decent flavor somethings very very wrong but like i said everyone has their preferences.

MoFo · Aug 29, 2014

Since when is decent a word that means bad? In my dictionary it means satisfactory.

Oh, I thought it was great flavor until I got better flavor out of the Plumeveil. I'm a flavor chaser as well, and as I said, perhaps it has something to do with the limited amount of build space on the magma. I do have dual coils, 5 or 6 wraps of twisted 28 gauge, wrapped around a 2mm screwdriver on it. I'm not done playing it with it, but yes it is my experience, and in my experience I've found something that produces better flavor. I don't think that will be my experience alone either. No need to get defensive about it though. I was just trying to help. Have a nice day.

VH fan · Aug 29, 2014

MoFo said:
Since when is decent a word that means bad? In my dictionary it means satisfactory.

Oh, I thought it was great flavor until I got better flavor out of the Plumeveil. I'm a flavor chaser as well, and as I said, perhaps it has something to do with the limited amount of build space on the magma. I do have dual coils, 5 or 6 wraps of twisted 28 gauge, wrapped around a 2mm screwdriver on it. I'm not done playing it with it, but yes it is my experience, and in my experience I've found something that produces better flavor. I don't think that will be my experience alone either. No need to get defensive about it though. I was just trying to help. Have a nice day.

I don't think i was getting defensive at all , sorry you feel that way . Yes, decent means "just satisfactory " to me as well , and thats why i'm confused about your above comments .

You say "great flavor " but before said just satisfactory or decent . When i say decent my interpretation is it's OK , definitely not bad but definitely not great . Sorry for any misunderstanding friend.

Glad you like your PV

MoFo · Aug 29, 2014

VH fan said:
I don't think i was getting defensive at all , sorry you feel that way . Yes, decent means "just satisfactory " to me as well , and thats why i'm confused about your above comments .

You say "great flavor " but before said just satisfactory or decent . When i say decent my interpretation is it's OK , definitely not bad but definitely not great . Sorry for any misunderstanding friend.

Glad you like your PV

My bad, Sometimes it's hard to decipher a person's tone and intention when using text to communicate. I didn't mean to belittle the magma in any way. I still enjoy mine. I just currently enjoy the plumeveil more, so I was focused more on the description of my experience with that. Admittedly the magma was the top of my list for flavor production up until this point. It may be back there again, as I'm always playing with builds. I'll try to not use lackluster adjectives when speaking about products that deserve more praise.

MrScaryZ · Aug 29, 2014

I have the plume the Veil I like them both hell I can take a chea ass IGO and drill some holes in the side and make it a small nuclear cloud..

I do like the TOBH only cause it matches the Gaia clone my GF got me I wish I could adjust the airflow more easily I will have to mod it.. no biggie

MrScaryZ · Aug 29, 2014

Dutzy said:
It isn't a black one but the copper Tobh looks pretty nice on it.

I broke down and got a stingray that looks just grabbed me I sat on it and sat on it like I need more mods 40+ but what the heck

how does it hit? I have read it as some like to say "Hits hard" ?

MrScaryZ · Aug 29, 2014

VapingHippie said:
I stay with my patriot and TOBH for the ease of building on them.
The TOBH does have an airy draw though.
I do have a 5 post rda that hits like a beast but every time I have to do a build on it I want to throw it across the room.

Yeah man I agree I usually hahah stuff enough cotton there or whatever I am using to kinda cover the holes a bit hahahaha I need to mod it get that dremil out and some brass dear

Dutzy · Aug 29, 2014

The X hits really hard it's a nice investment. I like my VW devices but this one is a keeper.

MrScaryZ · Aug 29, 2014

Dutzy said:
The X hits really hard it's a nice investment. I like my VW devices but this one is a keeper.

Awesome man Yeah I have a few custom Mechs that are monsters I just love that styling of the Stingray which version did you get?

KKen · Aug 30, 2014

skenzer said:
Love my Quasar for flavor! The others are excellent as well but I just keep going back to my quasar.

I didn't take notice until I went back to some other favorite atties that I found how much I really like the Quasar. Perfect draw and the chamber seems to be just the right size for the flavor I like. I run mine on single coil only, but use both airflow slots a little less than halfway open on each side.

VH fan · Aug 30, 2014

MoFo said:
My bad, Sometimes it's hard to decipher a person's tone and intention when using text to communicate. I didn't mean to belittle the magma in any way. I still enjoy mine. I just currently enjoy the plumeveil more, so I was focused more on the description of my experience with that. Admittedly the magma was the top of my list for flavor production up until this point. It may be back there again, as I'm always playing with builds. I'll try to not use lackluster adjectives when speaking about products that deserve more praise.

Yes, it is hard and some have taken what i was trying to say differently than i had hoped on more than one occasion , guess it's the nature of communicating by text as you mentioned , no harm done.

Hey, no need to change the way you refer to things , i was the one who read it wrong , nobody else seemed to take it the wrong way or found it confusing so your fine , i think i'm the one at fault here.

Anyways, enjoy your Labor day weekend.

Dutzy · Aug 30, 2014

I got the SXK version. It's flawless. When screwed together you can't even see seams. Threads are smooth. Very nice.

R3alJim Shady · Aug 30, 2014

@Dutzy, that's good news because I have one on order from FT and can't wait for it to come in. Probably another two weeks or so... big upgrade from my K100! Btw, how's the switch? Heard it was a bit crunchy before it breaks in.

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QuikWgn · Aug 30, 2014

Ont thing to consider is that there are a lot of add ons/mods that you can get for the TOBH (some crossplatform to the Plume) like glass top caps, Chuff Enuff drip tops, etc. if your the type of guy that takes a dremel to his new RDA the Vulcan clone would be a good choice, as I dremeled eout the entire 'V' for more airflow. For easy dual/quad specific RDA's the Doge Competition RDA and the 454 Big Block are hard to beat for the price.

Dutzy · Aug 30, 2014

jmoney426 said:
@Dutzy, that's good news because I have one on order from FT and can't wait for it to come in. Probably another two weeks or so... big upgrade from my K100! Btw, how's the switch? Heard it was a bit crunchy before it breaks in.

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Take it apart when you get it and clean the hell out of every little nook and cranny in the switch. I used a toothbrush and warm soapy water. It's nice and smooth.

R3alJim Shady · Aug 30, 2014

Dutzy said:
Take it apart when you get it and clean the hell out of every little nook and cranny in the switch. I used a toothbrush and warm soapy water. It's nice and smooth.

Quality advice! Thanks again!

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R3alJim Shady · Aug 31, 2014

Dutzy said:
Take it apart when you get it and clean the hell out of every little nook and cranny in the switch. I used a toothbrush and warm soapy water. It's nice and smooth.

Forgot to ask, did you have to disassemble the switch to clean it?

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Dutzy · Aug 31, 2014

Yeah. It's no big deal. Don't lose the rice pins.

R3alJim Shady · Sep 15, 2014

So just a quick update. Just got my copper Plume Veil in from FT. No holes in the negative posts! SO. WEAK.

Put in a ticket to see if they'll send me a new base. Last thing I want to do is ship the whole damn thing back. Considering it was $13 and change I can't be too mad. Besides, first time I got anything shitty from them.

But DAMN!!

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MrScaryZ · Sep 15, 2014

My favorite RDA at the moment is the TOBH Atty 1:1 that could change I do love the tugboat for plumes of vape well I also like the Cats

and the new Igo-w is awesome with all those posts to make monster builds... hell I like them all but yeah it appears the TOBH has alot of addons not using it now just using my Magma for that wonderful flavor ohh hell I love them all

"I love you all" -- Ozzy

Poconorock · Sep 15, 2014

jmoney426 said:
So just a quick update. Just got my copper Plume Veil in from FT. No holes in the negative posts! SO. WEAK.

Put in a ticket to see if they'll send me a new base. Last thing I want to do is ship the whole damn thing back. Considering it was $13 and change I can't be too mad. Besides, first time I got anything shitty from them.

But DAMN!!

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My experience with FT has been pretty good. Had a kfun that the post screw holes stripped.

They sent me a new base. No questions. "The waiting is the hardest part"

R3alJim Shady · Sep 15, 2014

Poconorock said:
My experience with FT has been pretty good. Had a kfun that the post screw holes stripped.

They sent me a new base. No questions. "The waiting is the hardest part"

Did it ship any faster than normal? Another two weeks before I can use this thing would be downright cruel!

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Poconorock · Sep 15, 2014

jmoney426 said:
Did it ship any faster than normal? Another two weeks before I can use this thing would be downright cruel!

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No, it took about 3 weeks. So I bought another from a USA vendor.
I'm like you, I know the one coming in the mail will make my life complete (it never does, but I enjoy the illusion)

R3alJim Shady · Sep 15, 2014

I know what you mean! I have a Magma, Stillare, Plume Veil (sort of), and TOBH Atty on the way. Already considering a Veritas.

My name is Jim and I have a problem.

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Poconorock · Sep 15, 2014

jmoney426 said:
I know what you mean! I have a Magma, Stillare, Plume Veil (sort of), and TOBH Atty on the way. Already considering a Veritas.

My name is Jim and I have a problem.

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Haha....At least this problem doesn't take the whole paycheck !

R3alJim Shady · Sep 15, 2014

Poconorock said:
Haha....At least this problem doesn't take the whole paycheck !

You can enable me any time, my friend!

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MrScaryZ · Sep 15, 2014

Now you guys are going to ale me buy the plume veil

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MrScaryZ · Sep 15, 2014

VH fan said:
I have tried most of them and i keep going back to the Magma lol, at first i thought it was unbeatable for flavor then i misaligned the air holes when i refilled which killed the vape .

When you line it up correctly so both air holes are open and build a large coil , 1/8 mandrel preferred (you only need one ) it's a cloud and flavor machine , so good in fact i bought another .

Nothing else compares imo

Just bought a Veritas due to it's non leaking reputation and deep juice well . The 454 big block looks interesting as does the Viking.

@VH fan

So you suggest just one coil what Ohm for the the Magma what gauge did you use? thankx

VH fan · Sep 16, 2014

Poconorock said:
My experience with FT has been pretty good. Had a kfun that the post screw holes stripped.

They sent me a new base. No questions. "The waiting is the hardest part"

Fasttech will be offering a Kayfun lite base replacement like they do for the 3.1 but as of yet still waiting . Regarding shipping , always choose one of the USPS options , i think it's under a buck or may not even be a cost difference but definitely a speed difference .

This is for USA based customers of course , average speed is around 12 days but could be considerably shorter .

Mrscaryz said:
@VH fan

So you suggest just one coil what Ohm for the the Magma what gauge did you use? thankx

Not necessarily , my point was that the Magma still works fantastic with just a single coil and ohm's from around 1.2 up to 1.8 . I was very surprised just how good it was with builds in that range , especially if taste is your thing. I like 28 gauge

If your going with a single coil go with a larger diameter , it holds more wicking material and be sure to tuck both ends into the well .

Rayon (preferred for RDA's ) or cotton works fantastic , if using Rayon, use a slightly tighter fit through the coil but if using cotton don't snug it through the coil as tightly.

Dual coils work great as well but i prefer higher ohm builds than most people on my dripper's and other stuff. I like a somewhat neutral vape and don't care for the overly warm types that many seem to like .

MrScaryZ · Sep 16, 2014

VH fan said:
Fasttech will be offering a Kayfun lite base replacement like they do for the 3.1 but as of yet still waiting . Regarding shipping , always choose one of the USPS options , i think it's under a buck or may not even be a cost difference but definitely a speed difference .

This is for USA based customers of course , average speed is around 12 days but could be considerably shorter .

Not necessarily , my point was that the Magma still works fantastic with just a single coil and ohm's from around 1.2 up to 1.8 . I was very surprised just how good it was with builds in that range , especially if taste is your thing. I like 28 gauge

If your going with a single coil go with a larger diameter , it holds more wicking material and be sure to tuck both ends into the well .

Rayon (preferred for RDA's ) or cotton works fantastic , if using Rayon, use a slightly tighter fit through the coil but if using cotton don't snug it through the coil as tightly.

Dual coils work great as well but i prefer higher ohm builds than most people on my dripper's and other stuff. I like a somewhat neutral vape and don't care for the overly warm types that many seem to like .

Yeah With the magma I am seeing that I have a dual coil twisted 28 g and I thing I will jump to 1 ohm like ya said for the magma it seems a bit hot

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VH fan · Sep 16, 2014

Always worth experimenting , for me personally , i get better flavor when i go with builds higher than most like , i have tried all types of hotter builds but i just do not experience the same flavor lol.

Make sure both air holes are open regardless of whether your using dual or singles. My favorite builds are typically in the 1.2-1.5 ohm range and under 20 watts , much closer to 15 actually .

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