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MidwestExpress · Nov 12, 2015

If you do tc you need to adjust the coefficient. https://vapingg33k.com/tcr-value-of-ni200-t1-and-ss-stainless-steel-wire/

I run a clapton in my subtank mini that is 26 awg nichrome core wrapped in 32 gauge kanthal wrapped at 2mm running 70 watt. My velocity is a fused clapton. 26 gauge nichrome core wrapped in 32 gauge kanthal at 2mm. All being 6-8 wraps. My current TC build is in my freakshow. That is double dual 28 gauge 430 stainless steel at 2mm. Run that guy at 400 degrees now and it is very nice. All those have been great builds. This mod runs them great.

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juicy76 · Nov 12, 2015

Ok thank you

MidwestExpress · Nov 12, 2015

No problem. Let me know if your have any other questions man!

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CrazyChef · Nov 12, 2015

So I decided to try to make a 38g N80 zipper coil, because I'm running out of RDA space and it will fit the post holes of my Patriot clone. The zipper came out nicely, but physics decided that a coil made at that size wasn't gonna happen. No matter how much tension I used, the coil just would not hold it's shape.

MidwestExpress · Nov 12, 2015

CrazyChef said:
So I decided to try to make a 38g N80 zipper coil, because I'm running out of RDA space and it will fit the post holes of my Patriot clone. The zipper came out nicely, but physics decided that a coil made at that size wasn't gonna happen. No matter how much tension I used, the coil just would not hold it's shape.

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Wonder if you used stainless.

How do this zipper coils vape?

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CrazyChef · Nov 12, 2015

Stainless would probably hold shape better. Zippers vape okay - better than plain wire, but not as well as a fused Clapton.

juicy76 · Nov 12, 2015

I have a zipper running in my volsity 30 awg 4 wraps on a 2.4 runs .89

robot zombie · Nov 12, 2015

Probably the thinnest clapton I have ever done. 28/36 - 9 wraps @ 2mm - .777 ohms. I'm trying to come up with good builds for a series mod.

CrazyChef · Nov 12, 2015

How do you guys get your coils to color like that?

raymo2u · Nov 12, 2015

CrazyChef said:
So I decided to try to make a 38g N80 zipper coil, because I'm running out of RDA space and it will fit the post holes of my Patriot clone. The zipper came out nicely, but physics decided that a coil made at that size wasn't gonna happen. No matter how much tension I used, the coil just would not hold it's shape.

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If you used a torch while holding the coil tight on a bit they would of hardened in position, just a future tip bro.

CrazyChef said:
How do you guys get your coils to color like that?

Its Nichrome 80 or 60, if you heat them up right and they have to be PERFECTLY CLEAN and they will color like that. Nickel and Titanium also color.
Heres a Tutorial on how you can achieve the "Colored" look

CrazyChef · Nov 13, 2015

Cool - Thanks!

raymo2u · Nov 13, 2015

I suggest you try the last build I did for the TFV4, the Twisted and filed coil (Almost a zipper with different wire sizes involved). Its a warm vape (even just Single coil) at 41.5w and the vapor production is INSANE. The flavor intensity is off the charts, Ive never experienced anything like this on a RTA/Tank, its better then some of the fused claptons Ive had...TRY IT, I suggest using 5-6 wraps and use the pancake wicking method but lightly push the top half downwards.
I ordered the TF-R2 RBA and the Snow Wolf should arrive soon also, I cant wait to Dual coil this build!

robot zombie · Nov 13, 2015

raymo2u said:
Its Nichrome 80 or 60, if you heat them up right and they have to be PERFECTLY CLEAN and they will color like that. Nickle and Titanium also color.

Nichrome makes it easier, for sure. But the one's I just posted are all kanthal.

CrazyChef said:
How do you guys get your coils to color like that?

The colors are much more faint to the naked eye than they are to the camera under the right lighting. I take my pictures under those "natural" blue bulbs. Whatever lighting you use, it's all about that diffused/indirect lighting. Think "cloudy days."

When working out the shorts and positioning them, I do so at the darkest glow I can... ...just bright enough to see how they're firing. Minimal heat and short pulses. The coils will usually lose a little luster and darken slightly at this point. It's important to get the shorts out without pulsing very much. I personally find that raking tweezers across the coils is the fastest way.

Once they're nice and even, I let it rip with a really long pulse. I go until they start to turn white hot and then let them cool all the way back down. That's when the colors pop out. That is the deepest they will get. Any pulsing after that will begin to wash them out.

And as mentioned above, it does help to wrap with clean hands.

raymo2u · Nov 13, 2015

robot zombie said:
Nichrome makes it easier, for sure. But the one's I just posted are all kanthal.

The colors are much more faint to the naked eye than they are to the camera under the right lighting. I take my pictures under those "natural" blue bulbs. Whatever lighting you use, it's all about that diffused/indirect lighting. Think "cloudy days."

When working out the shorts and positioning them, I do so at the darkest glow I can... ...just bright enough to see how they're firing. Minimal heat and short pulses. The coils will usually lose a little luster and darken slightly at this point. It's important to get the shorts out without pulsing very much. I personally find that raking tweezers across the coils is the fastest way.

Once they're nice and even, I let it rip with a really long pulse. I go until they start to turn white hot and then let them cool all the way back down. That's when the colors pop out. That is the deepest they will get. Any pulsing after that will begin to wash them out.

And as mentioned above, it does help to wrap with clean hands.

I thought it was Torched NI wire. but thanks for the clarification

robot zombie · Nov 13, 2015

raymo2u said:
I thought it was Torched NI wire. but thanks for the clarification

Haha, np. The way you describe is more in line with how most people do it.

Pretty much any type of wire will turn all sorts of colors if you get it really hot, really quickly. A little 150w blast or a kiss from a torch usually does the trick.

CrazyChef · Nov 13, 2015

robot zombie said:
A little 150w blast

Yeah, I'm stuck with my iStick 100W for now. Gonna get a Lavabox as soon as the $$$ isn't as tight.

blakemorder · Nov 13, 2015

Staged fused Clapton 5 wraps of 2x26g k1 with 36g n80 wrap staged with 26gk1. Some where around .12ohm and its a hell of a rowdy build, maybe a bit too warm for me.

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Dawn0810 · Nov 13, 2015

First attempt at a braided wire coil.

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raymo2u · Nov 13, 2015

Well today I had a hankerin' to try out something Ive wanted to do for awhile after seeing the Stapled builds. I thought of something that is small in size and has the properties of a Fused Clapton and Framing. I used 4 x 26g for the core and Flattened 24g for the Framing. I Claptoned it afterwards with 32g. This is a very difficult build, only due to the core wires and the Flattened wire not wanting to hold together while being claptoned. I used my trick for Staple builds, 2 Dimes sandwiching the wire and tape them with electric tape. I slid the dimes down as I went but had to keep them almost an inch from where I was wrapping wire. I got almost 2.5ft of good wire and used a hammer to flatten the 32g.

*So if you didnt read the crap above, its a 4 x 26g Core/ Flattened 24g Frames/32g Staple Build (Slightly Flattened)

Cmd.Gio.420 · Nov 13, 2015

I guess this is called a dual staged fused clapton coils.. 34g wrapped around 28g & paralleled with 24g N80.. 6 wraps 3mm diameter.. .12 ohms on the velocity

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raymo2u · Nov 13, 2015

Cmd.Gio.420 said:
28g/32g Fused Claptons, Staged with 24g NI80. 6 wraps on a 3mm Bit @ .12 ohms on the velocity

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^ Edited it for you

Very clean build BTW

Cmd.Gio.420 · Nov 13, 2015

raymo2u said:
^ Edited it for you
Very clean build BTW

Thanks lol I'm still learning the names of the coils

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wr3ckin_it · Nov 13, 2015

CrazyChef said:
So I decided to try to make a 38g N80 zipper coil, because I'm running out of RDA space and it will fit the post holes of my Patriot clone. The zipper came out nicely, but physics decided that a coil made at that size wasn't gonna happen. No matter how much tension I used, the coil just would not hold it's shape.

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Next time you coil it up, use a torch to heat it up and set the coils. It'll eliminate that

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raymo2u · Nov 13, 2015

wr3ckin_it said:
Next time you coil it up, use a torch to heat it up and set the coils. It'll eliminate that

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Copier!!

Dawn0810 · Nov 13, 2015

I got my mephisto v2 yesterday it's a 3 post design but the holes are almost 3mm I was running out of rda's that had big enough holes for some of this wire and I barely trust myself with a drill to make wire let along trying to drill "custom" holes on a post. I have a clone of some 26650 rda 3 post design and the whole is the size of 28g wire that just doesn't even make sense

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raymo2u · Nov 13, 2015

Dawn0810 said:
I got my mephisto v2 yesterday it's a 3 post design but the holes are almost 3mm I was running out of rda's that had big enough holes for some of this wire and I barely trust myself with a drill to make wire let along trying to drill "custom" holes on a post. I have a clone of some 26650 rda 3 post design and the whole is the size of 28g wire that just doesn't even make sense

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Grab a 1/16th Drill bit from Walmart and take it slow. It is very easy to do and you will have some 2.4-2.8mm holes (depending on how perfect you drill though). I drilled my Derringer, Nimbus and Patriot rda's a long time ago and then drill airflow holes for the caps, post holes are easy, not the caps since holes are already there...
Derringer Holes Widened and Airflow Opened to Match Cap:

Nimbus Post Holes could only handle Single 26g before, fits Dual Parallel 24g. Airflow Holes were .5mm before, now are the same as the Tactical Warhead RDA

A list of RDA's with big holes that are decent (Off the top of my head):
Sapor
Twisted Messes and Mini version
13 Heavens 9 Hells and Mini version
El Cabron
INDESTRUCTIBLE ATTY RDA
Dark Horse
PhenotypeL
Lush
Doge V2/X2
Mutation X 2/3
Velocity
Noxus
Dinghy

wr3ckin_it · Nov 13, 2015

raymo2u said:
Copier!!

Lmfao oops

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raymo2u · Nov 13, 2015

wr3ckin_it said:
Lmfao oops

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My kid was reading the page and pointed it out, so I did what he did, you didnt get to see me point my finger though

CrazyChef · Nov 13, 2015

First try at a stitched alien. 3x26K cores, 36N alien wrap, 40K stitching. 3mm ID, 0.19Ω
Screwed it up a bit when coiling (as you can see), and couldn't really get a clear shot for some reason.

Dawn0810 · Nov 13, 2015

raymo2u said:
Grab a 1/16th Drill bit from Walmart and take it slow. It is very easy to do and you will have some 2.4-2.8mm holes (depending on how perfect you drill though). I drilled my Derringer, Nimbus and Patriot rda's a long time ago and then drill airflow holes for the caps, post holes are easy, not the caps since holes are already there...
Derringer Holes Widened and Airflow Opened to Match Cap:
View attachment 33675 View attachment 33674 Nimbus Post Holes could only handle Single 26g before, fits Dual Parallel 24g. Airflow Holes were .5mm before, now are the same as the Tactical Warhead RDA
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A list of RDA's with big holes that are decent (Off the top of my head):
Sapor
Twisted Messes and Mini version
13 Heavens 9 Hells and Mini version
Dark Horse
Lush
Doge V2/X2
Mutation X 2/3
Velocity
Noxus
Dinghy

Good because I pretty much have all those except Minis but I have their counterparts

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raymo2u · Nov 13, 2015

Dawn0810 said:
Good because I pretty much have all those except Minis but I have their counterparts

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Im only in the market now if they are a copy of the Twisted Messes deck...All other RDA's Ive own I destroyed with retard strength...Post spinning/Broken Center Post/Bend Posts/Melted Insulators....The list goes on. Now if it doesnt meet the same specs as TM/Lush or Velocity I wont even bother checking it out..

Dawn0810 · Nov 13, 2015

raymo2u said:
Im only in the market now if they are a copy of the Twisted Messes deck...All other RDA's Ive own I destroyed with retard strength...Post spinning/Broken Center Post/Bend Posts/Melted Insulators....The list goes on. Now if it doesnt meet the same specs as TM/Lush or Velocity I wont even bother checking it out..

DEFINITELY GOOD to know esp as I progress on my crazy wire building I'll stick to those ones.

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raymo2u · Nov 13, 2015

Dawn0810 said:
DEFINITELY GOOD to know esp as I progress on my crazy wire building I'll stick to those ones.

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Just so you know if you go on Ebay and See Clones of the Compvape products the quality is EXACTLY the same, they are great clones for the money! (TM/TM Mini/El Cabron/13 Heavens and Mini Clones) They range from $15-$25 shipped and come in the exact fashion as the originals. I cant wait until they clone the Gold/Black TM rda...

Dawn0810 · Nov 13, 2015

I'm liking the multiple wire creations because for the longest time I was having the hardest time getting me ohms up high enough to fire. Part of it was my ohm reader must be on its way out because it reads completely wrong today I did three build 2 of which read out to .05 one @.04 and on the devices they where between .5 and .8 so I bought a new one last night I want the 521 tab but they're hard to find in stock

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Dawn0810 · Nov 13, 2015

raymo2u said:
Just so you know if you go on Ebay and See Clones of the Compvape products the quality is EXACTLY the same, they are great clones for the money! (TM/TM Mini/El Cabron/13 Heavens and Mini Clones) They range from $15-$25 shipped and come in the exact fashion as the originals. I cant wait until they clone the Gold/Black TM rda...

Oh I know lol me either I'm so glad they came out with the black version of TM

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Dawn0810 · Nov 13, 2015

Omg so I guess fast tech sells everything from vaping gear to sex toys

Lmfao

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raymo2u · Nov 13, 2015

Dawn0810 said:
Omg so I guess fast tech sells everything from vaping gear to sex toys

Lmfao

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Yea theyve stocked up on quite a few of them, some I dont see how they thought people would even consider buying....Ah well maybe Ill put a C* ring or 2 in the basket and use them as vape bands

Dawn0810 · Nov 13, 2015

raymo2u said:
Yea theyve stocked up on quite a few of them, some I dont see how they thought people would even consider buying....Ah well maybe Ill put a C* ring or 2 in the basket and use them as vape bands

Omg it took me a half of second to figure out what you where talking about but now it's all too clear lol

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Dawn0810 · Nov 13, 2015

raymo2u said:
Yea theyve stocked up on quite a few of them, some I dont see how they thought people would even consider buying....Ah well maybe Ill put a C* ring or 2 in the basket and use them as vape bands

Oh trust and believe I know a few people who would put anything you could imagine into good use maybe even a rubber chicken

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raymo2u · Nov 13, 2015

Dawn0810 said:
Oh trust and believe I know a few people who would put anything you could imagine into good use maybe even a rubber chicken

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Sounds like a Fun Crowd

I do love sexy talk but back to the topic at hand

From Earlier-4 x 26g Core/ Flattened 24g Frames/32g Staple Build (Slightly Flattened) Staged with 26g/32g (.079 Ohms) -Beast of a Build-

Dawn0810 · Nov 13, 2015

Well that's coil porn so it's kinda the same lol

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raymo2u · Nov 13, 2015

Dawn0810 said:
Well that's coil porn so it's kinda the same lol

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It just doesnt feel the same

blakemorder · Nov 13, 2015

@raymo2u whats this twisted messes mini? I've heard about it a couple times but never saw it on compvape or twistedmesses.com

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Dawn0810 · Nov 13, 2015

The mini isn't much different than the original

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blakemorder · Nov 13, 2015

Dawn0810 said:
The mini isn't much different than the original

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Is it a clone? I'm only asking because wasn't too impressed with the original twisted messes clones I've seen.

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Dawn0810 · Nov 13, 2015

blakemorder said:
Is it a clone? I'm only asking because wasn't too impressed with the original twisted messes clones I've seen.

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Really I have two clones of TM and one authentic and you can't tell which is which. Look for 1:1

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Dawn0810 · Nov 13, 2015

http://www.greatvapor.net/product/mini-twisted-messes-rda-atomizer/

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blakemorder · Nov 13, 2015

Dawn0810 said:
Really I have two clones of TM and one authentic and you can't tell which is which. Look for 1:1

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The difference I saw was in the deck, a couple people I know bought clones and the center post ended up spinning, the o-rings were too tight or too loose ect. Personally I like the quality of tobecco authentics better for similar prices. I was kind of hoping the mini was an authentic I never heard about, I've been wanting a mini rda for a while now.

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raymo2u · Nov 13, 2015

The Twisted Messes RDA and Its Mini are more substantial in difference, like most of the Fullsize/Mini's (My GO-To RDA's) Wish I didnt loose my Delrin Fullsize Drip Tip

I like the heatsink top that comes with th Mini so I put it on the Fullsize TM also.

These are both my Clone TM rda's and they are better quality then any other RDA's Ive used, they havent broke, have taken any and all builds with ease and you could not get these posts to spin if you tried with pliers and a vise. Both of them were around $20 on ebay and if you would like Ill post the link to the sellers selling them.
Fullsize 1:1 TM RDA for $20 Shipped
TM/13 Heavens Hybrid Mini RDA for $23 Shipped
13 Heavens Fullsize 1:1 RDA for $20 Shipped
El Cabron Fullsize 1:1 RDA for $26 Shipped

Dawn0810 · Nov 14, 2015

Second attempt at braided wire

Then I was feeling like it's an RTA day

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