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so its fully telescopic per say? and it still needs an adapter for the ego threads? at least that means no more buying extension caps and all that..
 

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ProVari 3 Features:

● The ProVari 3 voltage can be adjusted from 2.9 - 6.0 in 0.1 volt increments.

● The ProVari 3 wattage can be adjusted from 3 - 20 in 0.2 watt increments.

● Flat top design provides a clean hybrid look with the latest tanks.

● Self-adjusting center contact pin ensures maximum compatibility with tanks and atomizers.

● The new P3 thread is a unique top connection which allows you to adapt multiple tanks including 510, Ego and P3 threaded tanks (coming soon). As new connections become available, the P3 will be able to adapt with screw-in adapters. Ego style adapters will be sold separately. As new tanks are developed with the P3 thread, they will adapt for a clean hybrid look.

● Built-in sealed OLED display with scrolling icon-based graphics allows you to visually adjust your settings.

● Each device has a unique digital serial number.

● A translucent seven color lighted push button acts as a low battery alert and allows you to select from seven color choices when the button is pressed. There is also a random option which rotates through all seven colors.

● On/Off mode allows you to shut the unit off completely.

● 16 second safety cutoff turns off the unit if the button is held down for too long.

● HotShot™ Boost mode allows you to get more vapor with a short power boost with each puff. This setting is adjustable allowing you to dial-in your favorite boost time setting.

● Scrolling OTS (Onboard Troubleshooting System) keeps the user informed of any problems and how to resolve them with clear instructions.

● Sub-ohm capability - down to .70 ohms

● Amperage limit of up to 5 amps will protect against over-current situations.

● Battery "mileage gauge" tells you how much energy is available to the atomizer.

● Smart safety features provide the highest levels of safety available on any device in the world. If you press the button and can vape, it's safe!

● Thermal monitoring shuts the device off if it detects a high temperature condition.

● IQ™ (Input Quality) monitor provides feedback on the condition of your battery and connections. This never before seen feature not only can test your batteries, but also alert you if there is a problem with one of your cells or contacts. Battery safety is very important to us!

● Left & Right handed mode allows the user to select which way the display reads.

● Check All mode allows the user to see all their critical settings at a quick glance with one button press (adjustable settings).

● Save profile - Save all of your favorite settings into 5 available memory slots for quick recall.

● Scroll speed adjust allows the user to select the speed of the scrolling menu.

● OLED brightness adjustment lets you vary the display intensity.

● Exclusive reliable and safe electronic switch is designed for long life.

● Battery Monitoring shuts the unit off once a battery has reached end-of-charge.

● Reverse battery protection keeps the circuit safe if the battery is accidentally installed backwards.

● The P3 is compatible with flat top batteries.

● No compromise components ensures a high quality and reliable device.

● Proudly made in the USA.

● 1 Year Warranty: Excludes accessories like batteries and atomizers.

● 3.5" L x 0.90" D without atomizer. Each extension ring adds .65"
 

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hmm doesnt say if it fits all 3 main batteries .. i assume it wont because they prob make a killing from the extension caps alone
 

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Comes with tubes to use all three size batteries. And it will take flat top batteries.
 

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With the fact that it comes with all battery tubes, beauty ring and user changeable LED colors I would be willing to pay $50 more than the current price of the V2.5.
 

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Ugghh, when are they going to learn that the box form factor rules .
 

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With the fact that it comes with all battery tubes, beauty ring and user changeable LED colors I would be willing to pay $50 more than the current price of the V2.5.

I concur...that is a really awesome package...bring on the pricing!
 

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Take my $$$!
 

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I like my box mods, but I'd rather start seeing DNA20/30+ etc start popping up in tube mods!! Oh btw Provape take my money :D
 

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Will be in brick & mortar first, not online, they say to show a little gratitude for stores carrying them. Phil Busardo has a first look of it up, all he says about pricing is it will be more than the 2.5, but that is expected with it comeing with all the tubes and rings.
 

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That is a pretty fancy menu, new stuff we haven't seen on another device yet, good it now will come with all extensions for all batteries, but now there won't be the upgrade options for extension caps and colored led, think it will be closer to the $300 mark, but sure it will sell like crazy once released :)
 

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That is a pretty fancy menu, new stuff we haven't seen on another device yet, good it now will come with all extensions for all batteries, but now there won't be the upgrade options for extension caps and colored led, think it will be closer to the $300 mark, but sure it will sell like crazy once released :)


No way it will be near the $300 mark. That is not their target audience. I would say $225 max for satin silver and $250 max for colors. Pricing them near $300 would be shooting themselves in the foot and driving away the customers who have stood behind them.

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It most likely will be more then the 2.5 cannot see them undercutting 1 of their own products- so $225
 

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No way it will be near the $300 mark. That is not their target audience. I would say $225 max for satin silver and $250 max for colors. Pricing them near $300 would be shooting themselves in the foot and driving away the customers who have stood behind them.

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Agree here.. 300$ would be unreasonable and there are WAY too many choices for higher wattage for a lot cheaper.. I think 250$ is the most I would pay to be honest..
 

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Provari was my first and Best vv device. When I broke the screen they replaced it fast and free. Very pleasant to deal with.
Based on the history I've had with them, I'll be in line for a P3
Go USA
 

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I will be in line as well, online though, I doubt I can afford it through a brick & mortar, and many authorized near me anyway. I can handle $250 for it, I would be surprised if it is more really.
 

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Would you rather sell 1000 at $225-250- or 200-300 at $300
 
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$225 is reasonable, $250 is pushing it, $300 is way too steep. They can count on a certain number of Provari fans at $300, but if the unit goes for that much, I will pass.

A local B/M was selling the "Limited Edition Dragon" Provari's for $255. Had a big email blast for her customers. A month later she had sold 3 out of 15 she ordered.
 

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I am a tad down on the same 6v output, tell me if I am wrong, but it really means 20 watts is only achievable with a low ohm coil, or you will bump into the 6 volt limit, and it is basically only a 3 watt upgrade over the v2.5 which can hit right at 17 watts on a 1.5 ohm at 5 volts.

It is all fine with me, cause I tend to vape most times on 1.5-2ohm coils and not very high (9-12watts), I still think I want one, but disappointing a bit still. Maybe all the groovy features will make up for it, but I don't know. I guess safety and reliability is a good thing for sure too lol.
 

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I confess it looks very nice and has some cool features but how can i justify the price? I spend a fraction on that my ipv2 and I can go to 50 watts.
I don't know... maybe i will consider it when i see it first hand.
 

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I confess it looks very nice and has some cool features but how can i justify the price? I spend a fraction on that my ipv2 and I can go to 50 watts.
I don't know... maybe i will consider it when i see it first hand.

thats the thing.. you are paying more for all of those features.. the 3 tubes etc.. you will have to give up wattage for those added bells and whistles.. some people might not feel like its worth it..
 

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I don't doubt that it is a quality product. Provari is great stuff. It looks sharp and does some cool stuff.
It would be fine with most of my tanks but my drippers need more than 20w to do their thing with my sub ohm builds.
 

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I confess it looks very nice and has some cool features but how can i justify the price? I spend a fraction on that my ipv2 and I can go to 50 watts.
I don't know... maybe i will consider it when i see it first hand.

High wattage sub-ohming is not and will never be the target audience for the Provari. It is for the vaper that wants a reliable device that will be around for years to come. No one device is going to be right for everyone. The P3 brings many nice features and also has the ability to use an RDA with a reasonable build. Something the V2.5 and earlier could not do. All in all I think it is a great package.
 

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High wattage sub-ohming is not and will never be the target audience for the Provari. It is for the vaper that wants a reliable device that will be around for years to come. No one device is going to be right for everyone. The P3 brings many nice features and also has the ability to use an RDA with a reasonable build. Something the V2.5 and earlier could not do. All in all I think it is a great package.

Exactly this. I will be getting one.. probably not right away.. but I'm very excited. Cant wait to see the colors that they offer.. and curious to see how this 'boost' mode works on it.
 

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High wattage sub-ohming is not and will never be the target audience for the Provari. It is for the vaper that wants a reliable device that will be around for years to come. No one device is going to be right for everyone. The P3 brings many nice features and also has the ability to use an RDA with a reasonable build. Something the V2.5 and earlier could not do. All in all I think it is a great package.

I want one of course, I like the features and the provari build quality, and all in all it looks a lot nicer. I am not sure the features rate me upgrading from the 2.5 though, but I like shiny stuff. I am fine with it not being really for sub-ohming, but there is no way it can even get to the 20 watts on a 2 ohm coil, would have to be a lower ohm, higher amp load coil.. I really would not do that very much, but would be nice to be able to, it feels funny this little vaporshark can do that with ease, while only pulling about 3.1 amps, I get my hot vape when I want one and longer battery life with less amp load, one of the main advantages of regulated VV/VW devices. I guess it is a mountain out of mole hill though.
 

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I dig it, I'm not gonna be first in line, but I'll probably pick one up at some point.
 

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Reliability is what I'm looking for, so I probably won't be first in line. I have no use for anything over 20 watts (8.5 watts is my max).

I need something to last longer than the SVDs I've been using, though if they were as reliable as Provaris have been known to be, I wouldn't switch for anything.
 

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Reliability is what I'm looking for, so I probably won't be first in line. I have no use for anything over 20 watts (8.5 watts is my max).

I need something to last longer than the SVDs I've been using, though if they were as reliable as Provaris have been known to be, I wouldn't switch for anything.

Exactly the reason I got one. My first MVP failure after 6 weeks did not give me a warm-fuzzy about Chinese mods. And seeing so many people having issues with other ones. Just decided it was better to spend the $150 upfront than spend $40 - $60 every 3-4 months.
 

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Exactly the reason I got one. My first MVP failure after 6 weeks did not give me a warm-fuzzy about Chinese mods. And seeing so many people having issues with other ones. Just decided it was better to spend the $150 upfront than spend $40 - $60 every 3-4 months.
Ditto, my provari is my rock when it comes to vaping.
 
I'm really not seeing the need in the market place for this other than for existing die hard Provari fans.

This product is average at best, garnished up with gimmicks (snake oil) to pull the wool over your eyes and help swallow the Kool-Aid (price tag).

However, I must admit that I am simply giddy over how the P3 is making the fanboy defenders eat crow.

Over the last year and a half I have gotten so sick and tired of skimming through all of the illogical arguments over why the Provari is so superior. Beyond the extremely valid non-PWM argument in the earlier days (which is moot point today), it got to Provari fanboys literally making shit up about why all of the obsolete and antiquated things in the Provari design are the way they are. (old ass display, ugly exterior screws holding display in, tip of penis shaped odd diameter cap needing a beauty ring and was merely press fit in, no airflow in cap, having to buy an end cap to use 18650s, it goes on and on) o_O

The P3 is a Provari that fixes a whole lot of the antiquated and whack aesthetics of the P2, but they still got one major thing wrong in the world of tube mod aesthetics: It's 23mm in diameter. Sigh...

Who needs below .7Ω and above 20 Watts? Well, don't you want to know you can, at the very least, try it if the mood strikes?

The high wattage naysayers seem to not yet quite understand that high wattage vaping isn't just about cloud chasing. A quad coil in an RDA can easily hit those high wattage requirements measuring in at .2Ω, but it is made up of four much higher resistance coils that vape very much differently than a single coil at .2Ω. It's vaper density and flavor density. A .5Ω-.6Ω single coil isn't about cloud chasing either, but it can give you a quick and full hit that is much more like a real cigarette. Let me also emphasize how any given style of high wattage vaping is vastly superior with nicotine delivery to your body. My observance has been people are vaping 18mg-36mg on cigalikes, 12mg-18mg on their clearos and Kayfuns, and 0mg-6mg on their high wattage toppers. So...

It is very unforward thinking on Provape's behalf to cap their new flagship at 20 Watts. They can tout safety until they are blue in the face, but they are not seeing the forest for the trees considering high wattage is fast becoming a standard and expected option to try out once you venture beyond a commercial starter kit. The power specs just deny a P3 user of even being able to try what will most likely be a good majority of the new toppers coming out in the next year. What a bummer, I mean really...

Later folks.
 

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I see many people say $300.00 is steep. Truthfully I'd rather pay the $300 for an indestructible DNA device *2yr Warranty etc*, than pay $300 for something that once it breaks your screwed! J/S:)
 

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It does not offer enough over the 2.5 for me to spend more than $250 to upgrade. I love my provari, but I really do not know yet after thinking about it now if I will get the P3 for those 3 watts and 1.5 amp increase, maybe the provari 3.5 or 4 when do those come out? lol
 

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I would just get a 2.5 its the tapered top that's putting me off and no VW. I already have a Dual 26500 VV BeastBox from Mr-Liquid-$60 . Fits right in my hand nice- batteries last for Days-6 amp board and a Seigeli 20watt with 26650 tube From VariTube I want a Very Good VV VW 18650 Tube Mod that will last. But It has to compete price wise with the competition
 
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Over the last 5 years I hAve spent alot of money on the latest best thing as of now I have 8 broke out of 20 And these were a hundred here a Hundred there and guess whats still kicking my 3 Provari mods, its kinda sad some of the mods thst died I really liked am I a Provari Fanboy no I am a consumer who wants quality and a certain level of respect for Provape as a Company. I will be happy to buy the P3 and I will still use my 2.5 Provari and my other Mechanical Mods.

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"IQ monitor" eh? As in, it tells you when you're too dumb to pick a similarly-priced Chinese mod with way better performances? Sounds like something Apple products should feature too.

Input Quality my ass. How many ways can you monitor a battery's voltage and power output? I would understand if it was a stabilized power supply, but that's just a friggin' battery. There's nothing to monitor, apart from the battery's estimated health perhaps. But you know what? Anybody with half a brain can tell when a battery is spent and needs replacing, without any "IQ monitor".

Seriously, this new Provari looks totally underwhelming to me for the price. Okay, it's a quality device, and the Provape customer service is good. But honestly... at that price?
 

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Not enough power it is beautiful though my GF will want it I have to hide this from her.. I will probably get one
 

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Had a chance to mess around with one today and honestly, feels just like the P2.5 in terms of finish, size, feel and weight, and with a 1.2ohm build, vapes just the same too.

The new 510 connection, compatibility with any 18 series battery and having wattage control are excellent improvements if you compare it to the P2.5, but more of a standard affair if you are looking at other devices on the market today I think.

Boost mode... gimmicky? Actually, not really, but I think to really enjoy the merits of that, your resistance needs to be above 1.5ohms. Any lower and I couldn't really tell a difference.

So far so good though, but once I started to try changing settings in the menu, that's where it went all downhill for me. One button was "OK" with the previous version, but this, I don't know, was driving me nuts after a few minutes of use.

I'm sure there are those that will say you'll get used to it, but I guess you could get used to being stuck in traffic too, but doesn't necessarily mean you are going to like it though.
 

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Boost mode... gimmicky? Actually, not really, but I think to really enjoy the merits of that, your resistance needs to be above 1.5ohms. Any lower and I couldn't really tell a difference.

There's already a device that can do "boost mode", and that's the good old eVic. Not that there's a boost feature per se in the eVic, but you can program one of its user-defined power curves to output 11W for a second, and then lower for the rest of the puff. Well, I could never tell the difference between, say, 11-then-8 Watts or just plain 8 Watts. That was with 1.8 ohm clearos. But then, the eVic is wimpy, so perhaps a boost at 20 W is more noticeable.
 

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I think the boost feature is useful if you are vaping on something that would need a primer puff, like a cartomizer, but I don't see much merit with that feature if you already have a build that responds immediately when you hit the fire button.
 

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High wattage sub-ohming is not and will never be the target audience for the Provari. It is for the vaper that wants a reliable device that will be around for years to come. No one device is going to be right for everyone. The P3 brings many nice features and also has the ability to use an RDA with a reasonable build. Something the V2.5 and earlier could not do. All in all I think it is a great package.
I would never say never :) who knows with the next release
 

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Man if I put 300.00 dollars in parts I could build the most bad ass device I sit here looking at all my mods and think. I have not one regret selling my provari.. My GF will want this one though and for the warranty I will probably get it for her but I agree you know the day that I do not pick up a Mech mod will be the day I know that things have changed for the good... speaking of the above posts some do not understand its not just about voltage.. Its amps also amps in laymans's terms are the pressure of the current a low amp batter7 cannot even heat a .8 ohm coil effectively at 7amps it will pail in comparison to the IPV V2 which excels at anything 16amps and under.k. Its sad to see the US not setting and upping the ante. Instead its the Japanese designing and the Chinese producing.... I keep waiting for the day I can purchase and american made and produced here in the US at a reasonable rate... IMHO
 

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I expected a lot more from the Provari 3. 20 watts????? Are you fuckin joking?????
Mrscaryz is dead correct about the 5 amp limit. It's not going to push .7 ohms very well. I love my Provari 2.5. The bottom line: Provari will NEVER build a power house. It all boils down to litigation. They are are sooooo afraid that if they built a 30 watt, 10 amp, .2 ohm device someone is
sure to blow their face off. As for pricing,Todd E-Reviews states they will sell for 180.00 pounds, that's $292.19 folks. Not me, not this time Provari



 
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I keep waiting for the day I can purchase and american made and produced here in the US at a reasonable rate... IMHO

Sadly, the rates *are* reasonable to allow a US company with American employees to make a living, with the cost of living in the US being what it is. But as long as the Chinese are willing to take standards of living and payrates that are orders of magnitude lower, you can keep on waiting. And when the Chinese finally demand better conditions, some other third world country will replace them as sweatshop of the world.

In short, it ain't never gonna happen.
 

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Good, informative discussion, I had been looking at getting my first vv/vw device (with swappable batteries), and heard about waiting for the next one of these, over say a vamo, or svd, or cloupor 30w. Granted i dont sub ohm, but I may eventually, so if i can find something similar for a fraction of the price, why bother...
 
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