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To the [Removed By Staff] who think E cigs arent harmful
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anyone who expresses the opposing side in a mockingly dumb voice using lots of "oh,..." sarcastic and hyperbolic statements instantly negates any possible credibility you might've had. It's called a straw man and only morons and politicians do it.
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Troll....you joined our little family to make a first post that addresses us all like idiots who have no clue? We know all this and none of us have ever stated that it's 100% safe. We know any and all risks. But we DO know it's a SAFER ALTERNATIVE to the thousands of chemicals PROVEN to be in analogs.
AIR?? What AIR?? You can't walk outside anymore without inhaling smog and exhaust fumes, environmental chemicals, etc. There is no such thing as AIR anymore. You don't wanna vape? DON'T VAPE, but don't introduce yourself to a vaping forum and start name-calling. It's falling on deaf ears.
AIR?? What AIR?? You can't walk outside anymore without inhaling smog and exhaust fumes, environmental chemicals, etc. There is no such thing as AIR anymore. You don't wanna vape? DON'T VAPE, but don't introduce yourself to a vaping forum and start name-calling. It's falling on deaf ears.
I smell a deliverance moment in his future
I vape more than at least half the people on this forum and I'm still alive and kicking, feeling better than ever because big tobacco no longer has its talons dug into my poor lungs. I used to sleep 12+ hours a day because I was losing oxygen while I slept. I quit smoking to see if it helped that issue. I went from 250lb to 270lb, but now I sleep 6-8 hours a day, I feel great and well rested. So, anyone who says vaping isn't better than smoking can simply eat a bag of dicks.
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And by the way, I don't smoke anything. There's no such thing as an "electronic cigarette" - that term was probably created to make vaping look just as bad as cigarettes. We vape - we heat up 3 ingredient solution which creates a white steam which we inhale and enjoy.
And I'll speak for myself when I say that I have no animosity toward people who smoke. I honestly feel bad for them because they haven't found, or weren't successful, with vaping. Personally I think the cigalikes that PM and RJR have created are just as untrustworthy as their cigarettes because you don't know what they're putting in them. Back to my original point in this paragraph though, I have no animosity toward smokers. I just wish I could enlighten them to the benefits of vaping over smoking and hopefully get them off of all those toxic chemicals. While I say I speak for myself, there's this little box at the bottom of my post that shows how many people like my post. Those who feel the same way I do would be the ones to hit that like button. (Slightly shameless plug, but "likes" have no actual benefit here other than to show my fellow vapers' agreement and approval to this post).
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And I'll speak for myself when I say that I have no animosity toward people who smoke. I honestly feel bad for them because they haven't found, or weren't successful, with vaping. Personally I think the cigalikes that PM and RJR have created are just as untrustworthy as their cigarettes because you don't know what they're putting in them. Back to my original point in this paragraph though, I have no animosity toward smokers. I just wish I could enlighten them to the benefits of vaping over smoking and hopefully get them off of all those toxic chemicals. While I say I speak for myself, there's this little box at the bottom of my post that shows how many people like my post. Those who feel the same way I do would be the ones to hit that like button. (Slightly shameless plug, but "likes" have no actual benefit here other than to show my fellow vapers' agreement and approval to this post).
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Me tooDAMMIT She beat me to it!
I like how brave he was by showing his face in the video. His thought process, since he has no scientific evidence, that anything we inhale, ANYTHING, besides air, is harmful. So for anyone that might still need an asthma inhaler in order to breathe AIR, I guess you're out of luck. But, oh yeah, most asthmatics that vape, no longer need an inhaler because their lungs have improved since quitting smoking by use of vaping.
I guess you're a big man, creating an anonymous account on a vaper's forum, just to get a rise out of people that are incredibly grateful to have been able to stop a 30 year addiction to cigarettes. Yes, we vape, and we are passionate about it.
Go troll elsewhere, man. And stop calling people retards. It's uncool. Dickless.
I guess you're a big man, creating an anonymous account on a vaper's forum, just to get a rise out of people that are incredibly grateful to have been able to stop a 30 year addiction to cigarettes. Yes, we vape, and we are passionate about it.
Go troll elsewhere, man. And stop calling people retards. It's uncool. Dickless.
This video is awesome
It is very educational. If you have a teenage child who you would let hear the foul language, you can show this to them as an educational tool on how not to present an argument. You can really dissect it, showing how words are misued, pauses, informal language etc . I love this video as an educational tool.
It is very educational. If you have a teenage child who you would let hear the foul language, you can show this to them as an educational tool on how not to present an argument. You can really dissect it, showing how words are misued, pauses, informal language etc . I love this video as an educational tool.
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I find people that are stupid say these words a lot.
"you know"
"fucking"
I'm not sure what point they were trying to make, but all I know from the video is "you know,he's fucking stupid, you know?"
"you know"
"fucking"
I'm not sure what point they were trying to make, but all I know from the video is "you know,he's fucking stupid, you know?"
Uninformed and ignorant.
And the word you're looking for is not fur, it's for... mmmkay?
That was a total waste of your time, the vast majority of the vaping community knows it may not be 100% harmless. No proof either way yet, time will tell. You are not opening anyone's eyes.
And the word you're looking for is not fur, it's for... mmmkay?
That was a total waste of your time, the vast majority of the vaping community knows it may not be 100% harmless. No proof either way yet, time will tell. You are not opening anyone's eyes.
"Them freakin ecigs are going to kill us all!! We should ban them! Also, let's ban cologne, perfume, gas powered vehicles, power plants, because all of these things make you breathe air that is 999% worse than ecigs. Acting like you know something when you are clueless actually makes you look even more retarded than you may actually be. Although after seeing this video, I am pretty sure your IQ is lower than your age. Whoever the person is who posted this video or made this video is the biggest fucking idiot I have ever had the displeasure of listening to. I really hope you do not reproduce for the sake of all mankind."
I posted the above on his you tube video comments. LOL
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I posted the above on his you tube video comments. LOL
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To the OP:
To all my fellow vapors, this guy is a lame and probably works for a cigarette company. It's obvious that he has nothing to do but see how many times he can use "fucking" or "fuck" in a sentence. So with that being said, he can get the "fuck" out of our group and shove a toy car up his ass! Vape On!
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I'm not giving you an interaction on YouTube. I hope others don't either. In fact don't even bother watching the video, it's just some ignorant moron ranting about shit he's clueless about. But if you must don't like or dislike it they count the same.
Rogebye,
You start off with the lie that that ecigs are harmless. Only you have said that to shoot down.
Ecigs are less harmful than smoking.
Some of us don't have the option to live a completely healthy life. I can smoke to fight Ulcerative Colitis, I can use nicotine + 5asa to fight it (which I know works for me), I can use 6mp and have a 1:350 risk per year of getting lymphoma and since it's an immune suppressant I could also die because some moron like you decides to go in public when they're sick, I can use other chemo drugs anywhere from once a week to once a month for the rest of my life.
When I flare I get a very strong urge to smoke even while I'm vaping. At least pretending helps that urge a little. If I was using some other form of nicotine I'd be smoking with the next flare. You think self control? Let me stick a knife in your guts and let's see how much self control you have. Without vaping I would be smoking.
So inhaling stuff that has been used in asthma inhalers, is used in nicotine inhalers and are in what you inhale when you smell fresh made candy is a relatively minor risk to me.
Now maybe your body is as big of a pussy as you obviously are to make videos that bitch at people when you're afraid to show your face and breathing the air in a hospital that's cleaned with PG will harm you. More power to you, don't vape, it's your choice.
But fuck off if you think you get to dictate my choices.
I'm Actually for banning gas powered vehicles, electric is the future!!!! haha"Them freakin ecigs are going to kill us all!! We should ban them! Also, let's ban cologne, perfume, gas powered vehicles, power plants, because all of these things make you breathe air that is 999% worse than ecigs. Acting like you know something when you are clueless actually makes you look even more retarded than you may actually be. Although after seeing this video, I am pretty sure your IQ is lower than your age. Whoever the person is who posted this video or made this video is the biggest fucking idiot I have ever had the displeasure of listening to. I really hope you do not reproduce for the sake of all mankind."
I posted the above on his you tube video comments. LOL
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You realize he's getting the exact reaction he's looking for, right? Most likely farming for direct quotes for some blog he writes. I regret my earlier post at this point...
Let it go, friends. We know what positive things vaping has done in our lives.
Let it go, friends. We know what positive things vaping has done in our lives.
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Using the word "retard" around people that may be mentally handicapped (or have kids that are autistic) is the equivalent of a white dude dropping the n-bomb in a room full of African Americans.
Theoretically that's a rule break but since you seem to be of below average intelligence it would only be the equivalent of an African American using the n-bomb on himself.
Please read rule #1 and enjoy your final warning: http://vapingunderground.com/threads/rules-of-the-forum.255/
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I find the OP's topic title extremely offensive. I have a younger brother that is special needs. The use of that word is worse than the "N" word or any ****-phobic term as a special needs individual does not generally have the ability to respond or defend themselves from this type of verbal harassment.
The misinformation and general ignorance shown in this video, along with the word he used in the title should qualify for a deleted post in the very least. I respect that this forum likes to provide a sounding board and prides itself on allowing free speech, but are there not times that a simple warning is insufficient?
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Edit- just noticed the title was removed by staff,
Sincerely, thanks guys
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I'd like to know what made you think that posting this filth & garbage was gonna be of any interest to us? We already know there are asinine dumb fucks that push against e-cigs, we don't need to be reminded of one more. Personally, I'd like to take that microscope on the video and shove it up this fucktard's ass. Nothing pisses me off more than some idiot thinking he has all the answers & e-cigs are bad for us. Tell him to take his false information, eat it, choke on it and fucking die.
That is ALL he is, is a dumbfuck troll. Hope he's thrown out of our group on his ass. Fuck him AND his bullshit false information.
I love vaping, & it got me off of cigarettes, which just tickled my wife to death. She loves walking around the house smelling my caramel vapes, she calls me her personal potpouri dispenser.....And some idiot has to sneak in here late at night when the majority of us are not here, and post some filthy garbage like that. Hope he's the first one ever to be kicked off the forum for being a narcissistic idiot. Not a good thing to have on your resume...lol...I've learned so much from this forum, and have benefitted from some of the greatest recipes here. Not to mention the truckload of good advice and help I have recieved from the members, so yeah, I get a little agitated, (understatement) when some idiot bashes my friends, and our forum.We'll start by putting this thread where it belongs, moved to mud pit
We all could have just used CHANTIX and dealt with this.
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CHANTIX should not be taken with other quit-smoking products. You may need a lower dose of CHANTIX if you have kidney problems or get dialysis.
Before starting CHANTIX, tell your doctor if you are pregnant, plan to become pregnant, or if you take insulin, asthma medicines or blood thinners. Medicines like these may work differently when you quit smoking