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Here's a nice set for ya.


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Now yer just showing off.
 

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UOTE="SMOKIE, post: 60285, member: 7"]Ha Ha have you ever watched Mod Envy? I refrain from using profanity unless it is provoked but boob talk is always welcomed, just saying.

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I am very sorry if I pissed you off, I only wanted to clarify that just because one swears more then another, doesnt make them a bad person. If you want to hear People speaking in a proper English language using adjectives that could possibly take the place of Fuck then Your in the wrong place. Thats all I am trying to say. If I got your panties in a bunch then I guess I did my job! Have a goodnight and remember if your not happy about how any of us speak, Your more then welcome to your opinion but choose your words carefully because You did offend people and worse you made yourself look like a stuck up bitch!! Sorry if that pisses you off. Better to be pissed off then pissed on!!![/QUOTE]

I haven't even finished reading this thread, and while tempted before, this post made me stop reading and hit the reply button. I see that you haven't been a member long enough to know much about any of us, so for that reason you deserve somewhat of a pass. I for one can tell you that @kelli is far from being a prude or anti social. However, I would ask you to keep in mind that while you are defending your rights, and apparently the rights of all vapers, you totally squashed hers and took it to a level of a downright attack. In my opinion, you came across as a school yard bully. By the way, I sure hope this is not the way you are teaching your children to behave.

Next time before you attack a member on here I would advise you to go to their profile and read some of their recent posts. You may find that one comment came off to you as offensive, but when you look at the whole picture you might find that it was a tongue in cheek comment from someone with a sarcastic sense of humor.

I must ask you... When you suggest that Kelli get a councilor, is there a secret vaping council that I am unaware of that may be able to help Kelli with what you consider to be her antisocial behavior? You see a councilor is just that, a member of a council. That is the definition of the word you used.

Also, many of us have become very close since the Underground opened, and I am sorry that you seemed to have come in with such a negative attitude, that just doesn't seem to mesh here. I really hope that was a fluke and not a true representation of the kind of person you are. Like I said at the beginning of my post I had not read every post before commenting so maybe some others may have come off as rudely as you did, but I don't understand why anyone would set out, as their job (as you put it) just to piss someone off. We can disagree here, but we don't have to be so damn nasty about it.
 
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Ok guys here comes Mr. Voice of Reason.
@kelli just wanted to start her OPINION that she feels some people curse too much when broadcasting or doing reviews. Nothing wrong with that. She's a big girl and if she didn't want to watch or got offended by it, no one is pointing a gun at her head to watch (I hope). She was simply stating a opinion.

No reason to go after her as a person for it. While I am certainly not against cursing, some people take it to extremes. To the point where it just becomes unwatchable. That holds true for just poor spoken word in general. This is NOT referring to Mod Envy (before you guys say so). However you know there are people that "Go******* Motherf*****r's, this f**king s**t is so f****ng tight. F**k guys this is sooooo f****ng good, godd***n motherfu***rs. S**t, I love this b***h. F**k f**k fu**ity f**k f**k f**k." is the normal dialogue.

There are a lot of people that present their content that way and they are absolutely free to do so, but it's also not watchable to me (opinion). People seem cool with successive f bombs, but replace that word with "like" and you have a cali sophomore valley girl cheerleader. See what I mean?

Either way, no reason for some people to come down and bash Kelli for just posting her opinion. Even if you don't agree with it, that doesn't make her quite a few of the names that were tossed around. We are all (mostly) friends around here. No need to slug around mud just because. Can't we all just get along ;)
 

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One of my favorite fuck scenes of all time

 

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You said your opinion - stand by it and defend it. Its not like my opinion has any more weight.
I like the way you put yourself with the rest of us Joe! disagreeing makes the world go around, you disagreed, you didn't attack!

When you attack someone's opinion you come across like there is not enough fuel to defend your own! But when you simply state your opinion and can defend it on its merits alone without belittling someone else it gives your opinion more weight for lack of a better word. (okay, I may have been a bit guilty of that myself with the councilor point I made, so let me just say it was done with my sarcastic, tongue in cheek sense of humor to drive home a point)
 

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Just for the record Kelli... you're cool in my book. I unabashedly defend your right to say and believe whatever you want. And I'll say and believe whatever I want. Conversations kinda work like that. But don't take it so seriously! VU is a unique place that allows pretty much any opinion (and dissention of that opinion) with the worst thing that will happen is getting thrown in the mudpit. Really refreshing, I can't even post much at ECF anymore because it's just too damn much work to try and proof read my post to see if I've broken any rules. But I think there's a price for this, and that price is you have to have a bit thicker skin. I haven't taken anything anyone has posted here seriously and in the grand scheme of things this thread has no value to me besides entertainment. But it has been entertaining.

Anyway, no animosity here and go on and post whatever you feel like. You're in the right forum for that.
 

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This is an epic thread. If anyone wants to see anyone else's character and personality, this is it. Lots of smart, intelligent and witty remarks, sprinkled with colorful commentary all throughout. Some people really shine and stand out amongst others, while some others, well... not so much.

I, for one, am glad that this thread existed - goes to show that we're a diverse group, full of different personalities, and varying opinions. While we all think about agreeing to disagree, let's think about what brought us all here in the first place: to find somewhere to belong and have a sense of community in the midst of the challenges we all face everyday, and to know that somewhere in the far corners of the Internet, there are folks just like you and me - looking for support, acceptance, and encouragement.
 

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Just struck the amusing bone (next to but not attached to the funny bone ya dirty buggers) that an innocent bystander is watching the thread but not taking a side.
 

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Just struck the amusing bone (next to but not attached to the funny bone ya dirty buggers) that an innocent bystander is watching the thread but not taking a side.

We all can't march in the parade... some of us have to clap while all the clowns pass us by. :)

(And that's how we get caught in the crossfire most of the time!)
 

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This is an epic thread. If anyone wants to see anyone else's character and personality, this is it. Lots of smart, intelligent and witty remarks, sprinkled with colorful commentary all throughout. Some people really shine and stand out amongst others, while some others, well... not so much.

I, for one, am glad that this thread existed - goes to show that we're a diverse group, full of different personalities, and varying opinions. While we all think about agreeing to disagree, let's think about what brought us all here in the first place: to find somewhere to belong and have a sense of community in the midst of the challenges we all face everyday, and to know that somewhere in the far corners of the Internet, there are folks just like you and me - looking for support, acceptance, and encouragement.

*applause*..... ever so beautifully put, @bystander.

We all can't march in the parade... some of us have to clap while all the clowns pass us by...

Hey! Who you callin' a clown!? LOL ;)
 

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I'm sorry.... Could you all repeat that? I was distracted by the big boobs with the blue webbed feet...

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I am very sorry if I pissed you off, I only wanted to clarify that just because one swears more then another, doesnt make them a bad person. If you want to hear People speaking in a proper English language using adjectives that could possibly take the place of Fuck then Your in the wrong place. Thats all I am trying to say. If I got your panties in a bunch then I guess I did my job! Have a goodnight and remember if your not happy about how any of us speak, Your more then welcome to your opinion but choose your words carefully because You did offend people and worse you made yourself look like a stuck up bitch!! Sorry if that pisses you off. Better to be pissed off then pissed on!!!

I haven't even finished reading this thread, and while tempted before, this post made me stop reading and hit the reply button. I see that you haven't been a member long enough to know much about any of us, so for that reason you deserve somewhat of a pass. I for one can tell you that @kelli is far from being a prude or anti social. However, I would ask you to keep in mind that while you are defending your rights, and apparently the rights of all vapers, you totally squashed hers and took it to a level of a downright attack. In my opinion, you came across as a school yard bully. By the way, I sure hope this is not the way you are teaching your children to behave.

Next time before you attack a member on here I would advise you to go to their profile and read some of their recent posts. You may find that one comment came off to you as offensive, but when you look at the whole picture you might find that it was a tongue in cheek comment from someone with a sarcastic sense of humor.

I must ask you... When you suggest that Kelli get a councilor, is there a secret vaping council that I am unaware of that may be able to help Kelli with what you consider to be her antisocial behavior? You see a councilor is just that, a member of a council. That is the definition of the word you used.

Also, many of us have become very close since the Underground opened, and I am sorry that you seemed to have come in with such a negative attitude, that just doesn't seem to mesh here. I really hope that was a fluke and not a true representation of the kind of person you are. Like I said at the beginning of my post I had not read every post before commenting so maybe some others may have come off as rudely as you did, but I don't understand why anyone would set out, as their job (as you put it) just to piss someone off. We can disagree here, but we don't have to be so damn nasty about it.[/QUOTE]




I am far from new, Just because I finally confirmed my account doesnt mean I havent been reading and watching who is clicking together. AND, I seem like the school yard bully? did you read what You just replied in response to my comments? Talk about a bully, and everyone who knows me, knows I am a great mom, so trying to hit below the belt using my children or what kind of a mom I am is very low. You dont know me, and I am simply trying to explain that everyone is different and express themselves in different ways, some swear, so what!!! I understand thats her opinion but it comes off snobbish. And Vapor joe and smokie and tiny and walter have done so much for the community, any insult is just wrong in my opinion. Now maybe she didnt mean for it to come across that way and if so thats fine but i took offense to it. As far as seeing a councilor, I am sorry for that, I didnt mean to be so awful. I am sorry that any of this got this far. I wish I could take it back but I cant. Sometimes I become so passionate about my believes and opinions that I dont think before I talk. And I know I am not the only one guilty of doing that. I apologize to kelli and anyone else I offended and maybe we can put this all behind us. We should be sticking together not fighting each other. She is entitled to her opinion and not every 2 people are the same, we all think differently and have different beliefs. Thats what makes us all unique and for that I am ok with it. Also, your a good friend to defend her the way you did. she is very lucky, friends are hard to come by. Your lucky if you can honestly say you have one true friend in your life time. But not to get off Topic but lesson learned. I am truely sorry that I attacked her the way I did. Vape on and stay strong!
 
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and i don't expect you to. what does it matter what i think? like i said, i apologize for ever bringing the topic up. i am no match for the hooligans around here.
I think this whole situation got out of hand, we all make mistakes, Whats important is that we can forgive each other. Joe is a good guy, and thats way so many of us attacked the way we did. But I am sorry for hitting below the belt and hopefully we all learned a lesson from all of this. Stay strong, Vape on!
 

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Post #219 needs to get fixed… The quoting is all screwed up and it took me about 4 takes to understand what was happening..

Just saying…
 

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I fixed it.... a little bit :) A few spaces seemed to help. I can barely work the quotes.:eek::eek:
 

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Melanie, I am glad you apologized. I am simply pointing out that by attacking others, you come across like your opinion can't stand on its merits alone.

I hope that you think before you post next time is all I am saying. Next time, defend your opinion on its merits alone, not by attacking someone in such a personal manner.

As far as my comment regarding that you come across as a school yard bully, I am a teacher and I have a lot of experience in that area. What I meant by your children, I thought was pretty clear, by NO MEANS WAS I ATTACKING YOUR CHILDREN, I simply mean I hope you teach them a better way of defending their beliefs. Teach them to use class and not attack, people are more willing to listen to your opinions that way.

I do think your apology means a lot, and I wish you nothing but the best, because we aren't clicky people, we simply care about other vapors!

@TygerTyger I hope I was able to respond to this as that class act you refer to me as!! Lol
 
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minor rant.....

first, please know i am far from a prude. i use curse words on occasion when i get pissed about something. but i have noticed that in most of the vape shows i have watched, it's nothing but fucking this and fucking that. do vapers as a rule talk like this? or is it just because they are doing an online show, they are "showing off"?

to me it gets tiresome. i mean, cursing to make a point is fine, but using it prolifically in normal conversation sounds crude and socially backwards. i am not offended by it, but to be honest i am embarrassed for the ones doing it.

i am sure to be castigated for my opinion on this, but i just tell things like i see them. sorry.


Like....I totes agree. You know what I'm saying?
 

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Wow ..... Get on Netflix and play Trailer Park Boys.... ( the series not movies) Get ready to laugh your ass off with my comment.


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alrighty, it's on my list ;)
 

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Social People are not afraid to speak their mind and say Fuck! Its those that create a thread already assuming people will castigate you for your opinion when in fact the only reason you wrote that was So people would agree with You! Well sorry hun not this girl! All I see is someone who cant think of anything important enough to write, so instead you write about things that make you feel uncomfortable! Get a councilor hun! Sorry if this was to harsh, I tell em like I see em!!!

Oh, so they can say fuck, to be social and get people to like them, but she cant express her opinions on the matter equally? Sorry, get a counselor hun? LOL I tell em like I see em too, get off the soapbox you obnoxious fucktard. At least she had the balls to express her feelings, while you jumped on the bandwagon of acceptance. You are so quick to point out free speech, then you knock her back for expressing hers... I can't stand people like you .....LOG OFF and go drink some PBR....Your hipsterness is unwanted.


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i think you're a little late to this party, CF. but thanks for the backup. ♥
 

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Anytime Ms Kelli, anytime.
 

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minor rant.....

first, please know i am far from a prude. i use curse words on occasion when i get pissed about something. but i have noticed that in most of the vape shows i have watched, it's nothing but fucking this and fucking that. do vapers as a rule talk like this? or is it just because they are doing an online show, they are "showing off"?

to me it gets tiresome. i mean, cursing to make a point is fine, but using it prolifically in normal conversation sounds crude and socially backwards. i am not offended by it, but to be honest i am embarrassed for the ones doing it.

i am sure to be castigated for my opinion on this, but i just tell things like i see them. sorry.

I haven't been on VU long kelli, but this has been the first time I've seen intolerance of a poster's viewpoint. IMO the 'showing off' and 'crude and socially backwards' comments didn't help you, but I didn't see them as an attack on people who swear a lot, though they could have been taken that way. I am though pretty easy going and slow to take offense, specially online.

FWIW, I agree with you. I don't listen to vape shows on any kind of regular basis but I have tuned in a couple of times when something interested me and was put off by the excessive swearing. Don't even remember which shows they were and I'm sure all of them are not like that (well, at least I don't think they are).

In any case, my $0.02, don't let it get to you. You said your piece and some people agreed with you, some didn't and some took offense and lashed out. Shit happens and the best we can do when it does is learn from it and move on.

Vape on
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thank you ryedan. unfortunately i let everything get to me, so i probably should never express an opinion....especially a controversial one. but if you read my signature, you will see why i do. i'm thinkin' it's some sort of sick masochism or something.

oh well, you are a dear for agreeing with me. somebody has to, i reckon. ;)
 

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>>>This shit is long, if you don't wanna read it don't.. I'm just aiming to entertain with words out of pure boredom...

Crusin' around in the Underground, or in most forums or online shows with a like minded center of interest is like being in a grab bag gift event... In the Underground the like minded center of interest is vaping... It's a gift on many levels... So we share and receive the various gifts thereof, in forums & threads which brings us together... In a grab bag event, the like minded center of interest is sharing gifts as well.. With maybe a sprinkle of "do-gooder fun" and socialism in the pot, but anywho... In the Underground you may click a thread for a gift.. And at the grab bag event, you may reach in the bag and pull a gift that you may not appreciate as much as you'd hoped to... But there's no reason to be genuinely overemotional at the grab bag event, or in the Underground forums and lose all self control because you found some free shit you don't like... Unless of course you are willing to receive the same amount or more, of the totally unnecessary energy that you just delivered... Which is the apex of my point.. Also in my minds eye, pulling a gift out the bag, or clicking on a thread or playing a video you're not totally appreciative of is not a good enough reason to remove yourself from the event.. So with that in consideration, I deliver my opinion...

If we were children, opinionated rage could be easily excused because children aren't emotionally stable just yet.. But as adults and especially men, we are of course expected to conduct ourselves with a higher regard of discipline... Which sucks sweaty balls because I enjoy being a silly jerkoff myself from time to time.. It's what I do to exhaust the pressures of conducting myself like a well disciplined robo-citizen for like 90% of my day.. So I don't make overly sheltered & sensitive grown people cry like children...

Just for shits & giggles I read a chunk of this thread... Because besides the time I'm spending here the entertainment is free.. Honestly, I knew this topic was an absolute train wreck ready to happen from select phrases said in the threads introduction that I can quote... Like in example... "But i have noticed that in most of the vape shows i have watched, it's nothing but fucking this and fucking that"... @kelli then goes on to say and I quote "Do vapers as a rule talk like this? or is it just because they are doing an online show, they are "showing off"?"... And let's not forget, "I mean, cursing to make a point is fine, but using it prolifically in normal conversation sounds crude and socially backwards."

LMAO... Now at this point, I'd feel totally justified telling her whats really on my mind about her and that statement.. And I wouldn't give two shits about losing internet buddies because she may not be able to handle my opinion or any truth I may unload... Since your statement wasn't delivered with an upper echelon of tact, my answer doesn't have to be either... And I think judging by this quote, she knows this... "I am sure to be castigated for my opinion on this, but i just tell things like i see them. sorry."...

Wow... Castigated huh.. Sounds unnecessarily offensive don't it?... Lets replace castigated with it's direct synonym, reprimanded... That fits better... It means to rebuke someone, especially officially... And usually rightfully.. Like, in the case of poor craftsmanship the laborers were reprimanded by the inspector... And the meaning of rebuke is sharp disapproval and criticism... So basically she admittedly knew her opinion was ambiguous as fuck, and it would be met with harsh criticism and quite possibly officially dismissed.. So why anybody gets genuinely upset, or apologizes, or plays thread buddy defender or supporter to support such an ambiguous and possibly staged train wreck of a thread for content is beyond me.. Maybe there's a like button junky outbreak, I don't know.. But I fell into the plot not based on the initial merit of the thread, because there is none... My purpose is to completely undress & expose the elephant in the room... And also fire the first shot from the tranquilizer gun.. Without being inhumane.. And git er dun even though the mammoth is a female... But I must admit, to watch such a hollow post attract so much topical material is just amazing lol... It's like watching housewives of "whatever" scripted in a vape forum... So if that was the idea, job well done!.. But if this thread was staged for attention... Or Lord forbid because you genuinely wonder as a full grown adult if all vapers curse as a rule, (which I'm sure you won't admit) then I gotta just say fucking wow... Just wow...

Castigated... lol... Squares kill me... Maybe the "common folk" curse more often because they mentally weighed being viewed as socially backwards... And then weighed being viewed as a proper pompous pretentious jerkhole, who hides their true intentions behind flashy words instead of just saying fuck like the rest of us and chose the latter... Some opinions should be kept to thy self.. And possibly this one, but ya can't make an omelet without breakin' a few eggs so... Point being don't open a used pamper unless you ready to smell some shit.. And that's my long castigated turd... And trust me I ate light today...
 

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>>>This shit is long, if you don't wanna read it don't.. I'm just aiming to entertain with words out of pure boredom...

Crusin' around in the Underground, or in most forums or online shows with a like minded center of interest is like being in a grab bag gift event... In the Underground the like minded center of interest is vaping... It's a gift on many levels... So we share and receive the various gifts thereof, in forums & threads which brings us together... In a grab bag event, the like minded center of interest is sharing gifts as well.. With maybe a sprinkle of "do-gooder fun" and socialism in the pot, but anywho... In the Underground you may click a thread for a gift.. And at the grab bag event, you may reach in the bag and pull a gift that you may not appreciate as much as you'd hoped to... But there's no reason to be genuinely overemotional at the grab bag event, or in the Underground forums and lose all self control because you found some free shit you don't like... Unless of course you are willing to receive the same amount or more, of the totally unnecessary energy that you just delivered... Which is the apex of my point.. Also in my minds eye, pulling a gift out the bag, or clicking on a thread or playing a video you're not totally appreciative of is not a good enough reason to remove yourself from the event.. So with that in consideration, I deliver my opinion...

If we were children, opinionated rage could be easily excused because children aren't emotionally stable just yet.. But as adults and especially men, we are of course expected to conduct ourselves with a higher regard of discipline... Which sucks sweaty balls because I enjoy being a silly jerkoff myself from time to time.. It's what I do to exhaust the pressures of conducting myself like a well disciplined robo-citizen for like 90% of my day.. So I don't make overly sheltered & sensitive grown people cry like children...

Just for shits & giggles I read a chunk of this thread... Because besides the time I'm spending here the entertainment is free.. Honestly, I knew this topic was an absolute train wreck ready to happen from select phrases said in the threads introduction that I can quote... Like in example... "But i have noticed that in most of the vape shows i have watched, it's nothing but fucking this and fucking that"... @kelli then goes on to say and I quote "Do vapers as a rule talk like this? or is it just because they are doing an online show, they are "showing off"?"... And let's not forget, "I mean, cursing to make a point is fine, but using it prolifically in normal conversation sounds crude and socially backwards."

LMAO... Now at this point, I'd feel totally justified telling her whats really on my mind about her and that statement.. And I wouldn't give two shits about losing internet buddies because she may not be able to handle my opinion or any truth I may unload... Since your statement wasn't delivered with an upper echelon of tact, my answer doesn't have to be either... And I think judging by this quote, she knows this... "I am sure to be castigated for my opinion on this, but i just tell things like i see them. sorry."...

Wow... Castigated huh.. Sounds unnecessarily offensive don't it?... Lets replace castigated with it's direct synonym, reprimanded... That fits better... It means to rebuke someone, especially officially... And usually rightfully.. Like, in the case of poor craftsmanship the laborers were reprimanded by the inspector... And the meaning of rebuke is sharp disapproval and criticism... So basically she admittedly knew her opinion was ambiguous as fuck, and it would be met with harsh criticism and quite possibly officially dismissed.. So why anybody gets genuinely upset, or apologizes, or plays thread buddy defender or supporter to support such an ambiguous and possibly staged train wreck of a thread for content is beyond me.. Maybe there's a like button junky outbreak, I don't know.. But I fell into the plot not based on the initial merit of the thread, because there is none... My purpose is to completely undress & expose the elephant in the room... And also fire the first shot from the tranquilizer gun.. Without being inhumane.. And git er dun even though the mammoth is a female... But I must admit, to watch such a hollow post attract so much topical material is just amazing lol... It's like watching housewives of "whatever" scripted in a vape forum... So if that was the idea, job well done!.. But if this thread was staged for attention... Or Lord forbid because you genuinely wonder as a full grown adult if all vapers curse as a rule, (which I'm sure you won't admit) then I gotta just say fucking wow... Just wow...

Castigated... lol... Squares kill me... Maybe the "common folk" curse more often because they mentally weighed being viewed as socially backwards... And then weighed being viewed as a proper pompous pretentious jerkhole, who hides their true intentions behind flashy words instead of just saying fuck like the rest of us and chose the latter... Some opinions should be kept to thy self.. And possibly this one, but ya can't make an omelet without breakin' a few eggs so... Point being don't open a used pamper unless you ready to smell some shit.. And that's my long castigated turd... And trust me I ate light today...

well that was entertaining. so what i got out of that....i am a pompous, pretentious jerkhole mammoth. thanks so much. i like you too.
 

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lol, and most of the vape shows I have seen, still fucking suck...I have not watched our tv shows sponsored through this forum even, dont even want to try them out, I've been turned off from all the others I have seen...and I am a foul mouthed fool from the hood, I can't stand they way they act, because they act like a bunch of Half Way Crooks....HIPSTERS EVEN.
 

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well that was entertaining. so what i got out of that....i am a pompous, pretentious jerkhole mammoth. thanks so much. i like you too.

If that's all you got from that... Then turn your frown upside down & smile.. "I like you too"?... As If to say I dislike you? Not the case... But at this point attempting to explain it would be a waste in my opinion... But I must say I am considering a sex change so everything I say no matter how empty the thought may be, I'll get bandwa... Ya know what, I'm not gone do that either.. Say what you like miss lady.. Fire at will or close the door.. Neither will effect, help or hurt you or I in any way.. We just on different frequencies, and I'm gone teach myself today that that's ok lol... Nothing like kickin some dust up to see which way the wind blow... That's it thats all...
 

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