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arrowcrest

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Well First I will list my Kringle's Curse Clone the way and with what I use to mix it and it is perfect for me and has been for months. It is my all day every day Vape. I am posting it so it might help to a solution.
Kringle's Curse Clone
Nicotine - 6 mg ,Vapor Tek 50/50 ,100 mg
Candy Cane - 14% , Flavor West
Peppermint - 6% , Flavor Art
Koolada - 3% , The Flavor Apprentice
Sweetener - 4% , The Flavor Apprentice
PG - 40% , Bull City
VG - 60% , Bull City
Ok now for my problem! I have tried several of the recipes for (main flavor) Custard , Vanilla , Cherry , and Strawberry.
What happens is they either don't taste even close or the dry out my mouth and some even bloated my stomach. I tried adjusting the recipes , letting them steep and crock pot. Nothing seemed to help and if I did get one to taste pretty good it dried out my mouth. The Kringles I make from the mix at top taste good and doesn't effect the wetness of my mouth at all.
I really hope someone can figure this out because I would lone to have some other flavors for all day vape liquid.
Thank You So Very Much For Reading
Arrowcrest
 

VinceV1

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I have no idea... but you can add 1% to 2% of FA marshmallow or whipped cream (moisturizers) in the mix and see if it helps.
 
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VinceV1

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4% of Sweetener seems to be a lot. I don't use sucralose as you, but with EM, 1% is ok to my tastes.
 

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Usually it if a mix dries me out it is because there is to much flavoring. Occasionally a mix is just dry. A drop of em per 10 mls or 2% marshmallow can cure this. Or 1% (or more) distilled water. I sometimes use saline solution also. Either of these will keep the drying from occurring on mixes where you don't want to add sweetness or possibly mute the flavor with EM.
 

arrowcrest

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Thanks to all above. I know 27% may seem high but that is where it is best. On the sweetener , what is EM? I have Marshmallow (FA) and will try. The main thing was I would like to be able to enjoy some of the recipes from this forum , so many sound so good. I forgot to put in what I vape with , It is a Smok bottom and Aspire Nautilus , I vape at 9 watts.
Thank You
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VinceV1

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Ethyl Malthol. This is an artificial sweetener tasting like cotton candy. It has no known bad effect on health, which is not the case with sucralose.
 

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27% flavor seems strong especially with 6% of it being FA Peppermint.
I DIY a "Doublemint Gum" flavor and I use 20% TPA Peppermint and 10% Koolada. I personally like it strong. I go very light on the Spearmint 3% because it can take over and only 1% on the sweetener. It's my all day vape
 

VinceV1

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About how much EM would equal 4% TFA?
I don't know.

They changed the name. It is called cotton candy flavor now (10% maltol crystals dissolved in pg).

To me : 1% is the basic sweet flavor, 1,5% : sweet and very noticeable, 2% : candy paradise... too much for many recipes. This is my personal taste, it can differ depending on users.

5% would be the maxium for a pure cotton candy taste (too much for me).
 
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About how much EM would equal 4% TFA?
I usually don't even measure the sweetener. But I make 60ML at a time and usually don't put more than a drop or 2. I just want enough to take the edge off. I learned the hard way that you can always add more, but I haven't figured out how to separate it and get it back in the sweetener bottle when I add too much :) You have to also take into consideration how sweet the flavors you are using are, i.e. the Candy Cane already has some sweetener as part of the flavor.
 

VinceV1

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10% is 6ml
1% is 0,6ml
0,6ml X 20 drops by ml = 12 drops.

Basic sweet taste : 12 drops (or 6 drops for a 30 ml)
More intense : 18 drops (or 9 for a 30 ml)
Candy : 24 drops (or 12 for a 30 ml).
 

arrowcrest

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Thank you everybody for all the replies and advice , I ordered the EM and Bull City still calls it that , so I will try a couple of proven recipes when the EM gets here and let you know. :) Thank You Again
Arrowcrest
 

mink

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You've got an overload of flavour. Try this one. It's excellent!

HIC's Kringle's Curse Clone: So simple to make your own and save some vaping $$. Simple as it is, it took a very long time for me to find the perfect flavoring to match Halo's.

10% Flavor West Candy Cane
optional 1 drop of The Flavor Apprentice Koolada per 5ml of finished juice

Use the Koolada to get the cool effect of Halo's version - or leave it out for a mellower vape with the same flavor.
Shake 'n vape!

http://vapingunderground.com/threads/hics-clone-of-halos-kringles-curse.1774/
 

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more than 25% pg in a final mix, and I have to chase it with water, most seem to enjoy 30% just fine, ymmv. IME the overall PG% has the most affect on my dry mouth. If I was at minimum PG% and it's still too dry, I'd add 2% distilled h2o and go up from there.

Depends on hardware too. I started building lower and cloudier, and my tolerance for PG keeps going down.
 

VinceV1

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more than 25% pg in a final mix, and I have to chase it with water, most seem to enjoy 30% just fine, ymmv. IME the overall PG% has the most affect on my dry mouth. If I was at minimum PG% and it's still too dry, I'd add 2% distilled h2o and go up from there.

Depends on hardware too. I started building lower and cloudier, and my tolerance for PG keeps going down.
More than 60% VG and I feel my lungs squeezed. I hope a new component will arrive in the mix, with PG and VG.
 

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I read somewhere that Vapeing will naturally dehydrate your mouth, regardless of flavor/pg/vg/nic %'s. So make sure to always have a water bottle close by for the best Vapeing experience!
 

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