The Cereal Mixing Megathread!

Heather · Apr 21, 2015

Bryan92081 said:
I sent him a message, if he doesn't get back with me I'll message it to you. I'm not sure what the protocol is on that. I hate to post his recipe if he doesn't want it up here. I assume he wouldn't mind if i messaged it to you because he said if anyone wants it to message him.

I would really appreciate that! Thanks a million.

MikeSully · Apr 21, 2015

Quick mixing session tonight with attempts at two flavors. Cinnamon Toast Crunch and Captain Crunch with Crunchberries.

Both were fails at what I was going for but I think they're both VERY good and useful in our endeavors.

First recipe-

Crunch berries (fail)

6ml VG 1mg/ml nic
(DROPS)
15 Berry Crunch FW
10 Sweet Strawberry CAP
5 New York Cheesecake CAP
5 Sweet Raspberry CAP

Too much fruit! Cereal taste got lost.

Second Recipe

Cinnamon Toast Crunch (see notes below)
6ml VG 1mg/ml nic
(DROPS)
12 Frosted Donut FW
10 Cinnamon Danish TFA
6 Cheesecake Graham Crust TFA
6 Bavarian Cream TFA
6 Dairy Milk TFA
3 Sweetener TFA

Not cinnamon toast crunch, but VERY close to Golden Grahams! I vaped through all 6ml in minutes and made another 6 to play with.

At which point I returned to the first recipe and decided to mix the two to dilute the berry taste a bit. This resulted in damn fine Captain Crunch with Crunchberries. I can't put this stuff down now. I'd love to have someone else try this combo and add/ subtract where they see fit to get it even closer. The combined recipe would be as follows...

Success!
12ml VG, 1mg/ml nic
(DROPS)
15 Berry Crunch FW
10 Sweet Strawberry CAP
5 Sweet Raspberry CAP
5 New York Cheesecake CAP
12 Frosted Donut FW
10 Cinnamon Danish TFA
6 Cheesecake Graham Crust TFA
6 Bavarian Cream TFA
6 Dairy Milk TFA
3 Sweetener TFA

A roughly 16% mix using 35 drops/ml as a calculation

Thoughts?

Edit: I think berry crunch and frosted donut are both TFA not FW

Bryan92081 · Apr 21, 2015

@TBrill20 and @Heather, here's louie's loops compliments of @PD Fitzpatrick.
3% TFA Fruit Circles
2% TFA Bavarian Cream
1% FA Bilberry
.5% TFA Acetyl Pyrazine
.5% TFA Marshmallow
.5% FW Hazelnut
.3% FA Lime Cold Pressed
.3% TFA Vanillin
5-10 drops CAP Vanilla Custard per 15 ml finished juice

You may have to fine tune the vanilla custard to suit your taste. 10 drops was to much and covered up the flavor to me. It really helps give it that cereal in milk flavor IMO.

Heather · Apr 21, 2015

Bryan92081 said:
@TBrill20 and @Heather, here's louie's loops compliments of @PD Fitzpatrick.
3% TFA Fruit Circles
2% TFA Bavarian Cream
1% FA Bilberry
.5% TFA Acetyl Pyrazine
.5% TFA Marshmallow
.5% FW Hazelnut
.3% FA Lime Cold Pressed
.3% TFA Vanillin
5-10 drops CAP Vanilla Custard per 15 ml finished juice

You may have to fine tune the vanilla custard to suit your taste. 10 drops was to much and covered up the flavor to me. It really helps give it that cereal in milk flavor IMO.

Thank you so much!! I have to order the bilberry and lime, can't wait to try it.

Bryan92081 · Apr 21, 2015

Heather said:
Thank you so much!! I have to order the bilberry and lime, can't wait to try it.

Not a problem. Its one of my favorites. I mix for some of the guys at work and they always ask for this one.

juicy76 · Apr 22, 2015

I have a question for the senior mixers? If I am using all fa and fw flavors. How do I determine the pg % if I don't add any but what the flavors? Is there a rule of thumb so to speak?

juicy76 · Apr 22, 2015

Hey mike try this modification to your recipe
3 % berry crunch
9 % sweet strawberry
6 % dairy milk
4 % cheesecake Graham crust
2 %Bavarian cream
Sweetener to taste....
20 drops per ml
Let me know what you think

TBrill20 · Apr 22, 2015

Bryan92081 said:
@TBrill20 and @Heather, here's louie's loops compliments of @PD Fitzpatrick.
3% TFA Fruit Circles
2% TFA Bavarian Cream
1% FA Bilberry
.5% TFA Acetyl Pyrazine
.5% TFA Marshmallow
.5% FW Hazelnut
.3% FA Lime Cold Pressed
.3% TFA Vanillin
5-10 drops CAP Vanilla Custard per 15 ml finished juice

You may have to fine tune the vanilla custard to suit your taste. 10 drops was to much and covered up the flavor to me. It really helps give it that cereal in milk flavor IMO.

Thanks man! Will be ordering the flavoring for it!

TBrill20 · Apr 22, 2015

Bryan92081 said:
@TBrill20 and @Heather, here's louie's loops compliments of @PD Fitzpatrick.
3% TFA Fruit Circles
2% TFA Bavarian Cream
1% FA Bilberry
.5% TFA Acetyl Pyrazine
.5% TFA Marshmallow
.5% FW Hazelnut
.3% FA Lime Cold Pressed
.3% TFA Vanillin
5-10 drops CAP Vanilla Custard per 15 ml finished juice

You may have to fine tune the vanilla custard to suit your taste. 10 drops was to much and covered up the flavor to me. It really helps give it that cereal in milk flavor IMO.

How would you describe this juice as far as taste goes?

juicy76 · Apr 22, 2015

Looks to me that it would taste like fruit loops type clone but not for sure... Just my opinion

KeyserSoze · Apr 22, 2015

juicy76 said:
I have a question for the senior mixers? If I am using all fa and fw flavors. How do I determine the pg % if I don't add any but what the flavors? Is there a rule of thumb so to speak?

If I understand your question correctly your PG percentage will equal the total percentage of flavoring you have added. From what I know both FA and FW are PG based flavorings. If you have 12% total flavoring and add no other PG (assuming you mixed at 0 nic or your nic is VG based) then your final mix will be 88VG 12PG.

Did I totally miss the question?

Bryan92081 · Apr 22, 2015

TBrill20 said:
How would you describe this juice as far as taste goes?

It's a fruit loops in milk flavor. My local B&M has a fruit loops flavor juice, I forget who makes it, but this is a much closer match than theirs. The guy running the place thought it was way better to. He said it was a " premium juice" if he had to guess. Lol. He was shocked when I told him it was homebrew.

Zeeli · Apr 22, 2015

Here is my twist on Cinnamon Toast Crunch. IMO it has all of the flavors right down to the grain/oat after taste that's left in your mouth when actually eating the real thing.

5% TFA Cinnamon Danish
3% TFA Cheesecake Graham Crust
4% TFA Brown Sugar
1% Fa Vienna Cream
1% Fa Fresh Cream
.25% Fa Hazelnut
.25 TFA Cinnamon

Let me know what ya think. I've gotten good reviews from friends, but we all know friends tend to be nice to the guy that is mixing for them! LoL

MikeSully · Apr 22, 2015

Only missing TFA cinnamon. Looking forward to trying this!

juicy76 · Apr 22, 2015

Nope that was a perfect answer... That was exactly what i was asking in the exact situation...
Thank you

juicy76 · Apr 22, 2015

Mike I ave that cinnamon from tfa. It is very strong be careful mixing with it

TBrill20 · Apr 22, 2015

Bryan92081 said:
It's a fruit loops in milk flavor. My local B&M has a fruit loops flavor juice, I forget who makes it, but this is a much closer match than theirs. The guy running the place thought it was way better to. He said it was a " premium juice" if he had to guess. Lol. He was shocked when I told him it was homebrew.

Sounds great. Thanks for input!

Bryan92081 · Apr 22, 2015

TBrill20 said:
Sounds great. Thanks for input!

No problem, hope you enjoy it.

Mazam · Apr 23, 2015

After getting a free sample of a cereal vape i rather enjoyed this past week, i just put a flavoring order in to dive into some cereal DIY'ing. Split it between Ecigexpress and BC to cover everything in the first post.

Thanks for all the great info guys! Pretty excited on this one. My typical RY4 routine is getting tiring.

piemasher · Apr 23, 2015

piemasher said:
Has any tried flavor west captain cereal? What do you think shpuld get added to it? By it self ot is pretty... bland imagine needs sweetening and milks... malted or dairy? Marshmallow to sweeten? Going for captain crunch cereal.

Anyone?

returnity · Apr 23, 2015

piemasher said:
Anyone?

I've heard nothing but bad news on that stuff, as I said in my first post recommending cereal flavors back at the start of this thread. You'd honestly be better off ditching it entirely for now and starting from scratch somewhere. Maybe TFA Berry Crunch and some components of one of the Crunchberry recipes posted in this thread. Try using it again later on and then maybe you'll have a way to make it worthwhile, but it'll just make it too hard to get anywhere good at the start. I don't like it at all.

returnity · Apr 23, 2015

Zeeli said:
Here is my twist on Cinnamon Toast Crunch. IMO it has all of the flavors right down to the grain/oat after taste that's left in your mouth when actually eating the real thing.

5% TFA Cinnamon Danish
3% TFA Graham Crust
4% TFA Brown Sugar
1% Fa Vienna Cream
1% Fa Fresh Cream
.25% Fa Hazelnut
.25 TFA Cinnamon

Let me know what ya think. I've gotten good reviews from friends, but we all know friends tend to be nice to the guy that is mixing for them! LoL

Looks good! This recipe is very similar to what I do for this cereal, but I use FW Hazelnut in cereals and I prefer FA Cinnamon Ceylon to TFA Cinnamon in this kind of mix. Are you using TFA's Graham Cracker Clear or Cheesecake Graham Crust? Your naming confused me.

fq06 · Apr 23, 2015

Bryan92081 said:
@TBrill20 and @Heather, here's louie's loops compliments of @PD Fitzpatrick.
3% TFA Fruit Circles
2% TFA Bavarian Cream
1% FA Bilberry
.5% TFA Acetyl Pyrazine
.5% TFA Marshmallow
.5% FW Hazelnut
.3% FA Lime Cold Pressed
.3% TFA Vanillin
5-10 drops CAP Vanilla Custard per 15 ml finished juice

You may have to fine tune the vanilla custard to suit your taste. 10 drops was to much and covered up the flavor to me. It really helps give it that cereal in milk flavor IMO.

I use that recipe too, very good. Fine tuned for me I drop acetyl to .25 and add cap vc too but also use One on One's milky undertone (3% each). Without some kind of custard or cream added it's more like eating out of the box than end of the bowl milky. Good either way, just depends what you want.

By the way, OoO has a ton of cereal flavors ready to mix. http://www.oneononeflavors.com/collections/cereal-flavors

Zeeli · Apr 23, 2015

returnity said:
Looks good! This recipe is very similar to what I do for this cereal, but I use FW Hazelnut in cereals and I prefer FA Cinnamon Ceylon to TFA Cinnamon in this kind of mix. Are you using TFA's Graham Cracker Clear or Cheesecake Graham Crust? Your naming confused me.

Graham crust, not clear. I didn't have clear at the time.

returnity · Apr 23, 2015

Zeeli said:
Graham crust, not clear. I didn't have clear at the time.

Do you mean "Graham Cracker"? OR Cheesecake Graham Crust? TFA doesn't make a flavor called just Graham Crust, and either of those flavors is plausible to use here.

Zeeli · Apr 23, 2015

returnity said:
Do you mean "Graham Cracker"? OR Cheesecake Graham Crust? TFA doesn't make a flavor called just Graham Crust, and either of those flavors is plausible to use here.

Cheesecake graham crust from tfa

Heather · Apr 23, 2015

I have found the TFA fruit circles are good after they steep for a week or two. Initially I thought that they didn't work because they were way too citrusy. Now that I go back to the initial bottles I made (a week and a half later) They are pretty good. Vapeable. I made both recipes in the original post a few days ago. Once a little time passes I can add to the discussion. Right now they are not very tapeable to me.

Bryan92081 · Apr 23, 2015

Heather said:
I have found the TFA fruit circles are good after they steep for a week or two. Initially I thought that they didn't work because they were way too citrusy. Now that I go back to the initial bottles I made (a week and a half later) They are pretty good. Vapeable. I made both recipes in the original post a few days ago. Once a little time passes I can add to the discussion. Right now they are not very tapeable to me.

Louie's loops is pretty good as a shake and vape and comes together real good by the next day IMO. I haven't tried any of the others yet but I plan on it.

mrscorbin24 · Apr 23, 2015

I mixed Louie's loops up today also 15/85 so I'm going to let it steep a couple days before trying it, will let u know

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Heather · Apr 23, 2015

Bryan92081 said:
Louie's loops is pretty good as a shake and vape and comes together real good by the next day IMO. I haven't tried any of the others yet but I plan on it.

Great! I am waiting on 2 flavors to come in. I can't wait to try it.

Bryan92081 · Apr 24, 2015

fq06 said:
I use that recipe too, very good. Fine tuned for me I drop acetyl to .25 and add cap vc too but also use One on One's milky undertone (3% each). Without some kind of custard or cream added it's more like eating out of the box than end of the bowl milky. Good either way, just depends what you want.

By the way, OoO has a ton of cereal flavors ready to mix. http://www.oneononeflavors.com/collections/cereal-flavors

Have you tried any of OoO's that really stand out to you?

Badgerfacedcat · Apr 24, 2015

I recommend staying away from any single flavor claiming to be the cereal flavor. Every FW cereal is straight up bad ime. tfa berry crunch is a good accent to contribute to a flavor but makes a poor primary source of flavor. I think everyone will achieve a much better flavor by building it themselves.

fq06 · Apr 24, 2015

Bryan92081 said:
Have you tried any of OoO's that really stand out to you?

I haven't picked up any cereals, I have about 10 of their flavors and have mixed 5 or 6 of them. When I ordered I had 30ml's of louie's loops and cereal killa mixed up already so I grabbed other flavors. Fruity pebbles is in my next order from them though.

Rainbow sherbet (unicorn puke) is fantastic, steeping lime sorbet but smells awesome. Others i had too much flavoring so I can't say yet or like plum I think will be great but I used too much sweetener, didn't know it's strength but I will mix it again this weekend with little to none because I think they mix plum sweet right out of the bottle.

From what I hear a few juice companies use their mix and sell it retail. Tell them which flavor at what percentages, email logo jpeg and they mail you hundreds of bottles mixed up and ready to sell as your own.

Their sweetener is not em or sucralose, I am getting better results with it than I ever did with em or suc.

The milk undertone is just that, better milk flavor than I have gotten blending sweet cream and Bavarian cream or cap vc.

juicy76 · Apr 24, 2015

Do you have a recipe posted of this mix anywhere or yet... I would be interested in trying it if so .thank you

fq06 · Apr 25, 2015

I haven't tried their cereal flavors yet but I am ordering fruit hoops 3, fruity stones 3 and cookie crisp next week. I'll post back with comments but it will be a couple weeks between shipping and steep time.

Badgerfacedcat · Apr 25, 2015

Edit: wrong thread

returnity · Apr 26, 2015

Bryan92081 said:
Have you tried any of OoO's that really stand out to you?

Gonna reiterate this warning since it seems to have gone unheeded in my OP: Most OoO cereal flavors have been panned by almost everyone who tried them as abysmal. Buy them at your own risk. I wouldn't bother, @fq06.

Bryan92081 · Apr 26, 2015

returnity said:
Gonna reiterate this warning since it seems to have gone unheeded in my OP: Most OoO cereal flavors have been panned by almost everyone who tried them as abysmal. Buy them at your own risk. I wouldn't bother, @fq06.

Yeah I was going over some of the info on here again and I seen that in the OP. Thanks for the heads up.

twisted · Apr 26, 2015

Does anyone know a good crunch berry or fruit loop recipe using flavourart? Wanting more of a crunch berry but fruit loop would be good. I don't have tfa berry crunch but I do have tfa fruit circles, and alot of flavourart flavours coming in. Thanks for any starting points on a recipe!

returnity · Apr 27, 2015

twisted said:
Does anyone know a good crunch berry or fruit loop recipe using flavourart? Wanting more of a crunch berry but fruit loop would be good. I don't have tfa berry crunch but I do have tfa fruit circles, and alot of flavourart flavours coming in. Thanks for any starting points on a recipe!

@Botboy141 did a fruity pebbles recipe IIRC using only FA flavorings. I'll try to find it for you later today. I haven't tried it but knowing him it's probably good stuff.

The Louie's Loops recipe by @PD Fitzpatrick is mostly FA also and it's decent.

twisted · Apr 27, 2015

Ok yea please let me know

Mazam · Apr 27, 2015

Got all my flavorings in today! Mixed up the 3 OP recipes, and PD Fitzpatrick's.

Thinking i'm going to resist the urge to throw these in the crock pot this go round though. Muted flavor on all ejuice has been an issue for a while with me (others claim they taste my mixes just fine), so maybe there is something to sticking to the natural steep that will help there.

TheVapingDevil · Apr 27, 2015

Mazam said:
Got all my flavorings in today! Mixed up the 3 OP recipes, and PD Fitzpatrick's.

Thinking i'm going to resist the urge to throw these in the crock pot this go round though. Muted flavor on all ejuice has been an issue for a while with me (others claim they taste my mixes just fine), so maybe there is something to sticking to the natural steep that will help there.

I have same problem with not tasting mine but others love it

DeadShort · Apr 27, 2015

Badgerfacedcat said:
I believe my Trix is very spot on. I plan to vendor this to my b&m wholesale clients so please do not use this for commercial purposes.

4% TFA Berry Crunch
3% CAP Sweet Strawberry
0.5% INW Raspberry concentrate or 3% TFA Raspberry Sweet (INW is better)
3% CAP Sweet Tangerine
1.5% FA Lime Tahiti cold press
0.75% FA Fresh Cream
2% FA Meringue
1% FW Yellowcake
1% TFA or FW Hazelnut
1 drop FA MST Vape Wizard per 15ml

It gets better with steeping, but is ok fresh.
Enjoy

Looks like a nice fruity one here, but I'm missing the raspberry. Have you tried the VZ gormet raspberry? I may try it in this.

fq06 · Apr 27, 2015

returnity said:
Gonna reiterate this warning since it seems to have gone unheeded in my OP: Most OoO cereal flavors have been panned by almost everyone who tried them as abysmal. Buy them at your own risk. I wouldn't bother, @fq06.

Thanx for the heads up, I have found little to no reviews or info on OoO flavors.

I have enjoyed the OoO flavors I've mixed so far though so I'm willing to throw a couple bucks at a few of their cereal mixes. If they fail it won't be the worst purchase I've made in my many hobbies lol.

I will definitely post back up once they have steeped good or bad.

@Mazam
To me there is no better steep than time. Can't say I've tried all of the different methods but the ones I have tried don't give the results of being patient

Cereal killa and louie's needed a couple weeks but I added creams so I'm sure that extended the steep time.

Heather · Apr 27, 2015

I have waited a week on the First two recipes. I did a taste and they are not ready. I am impatient. I did receive my ingredients today to try the louis loops!

returnity · Apr 27, 2015

twisted said:
Does anyone know a good crunch berry or fruit loop recipe using flavourart? Wanting more of a crunch berry but fruit loop would be good. I don't have tfa berry crunch but I do have tfa fruit circles, and alot of flavourart flavours coming in. Thanks for any starting points on a recipe!

Here's the one I mentioned before that I had to go look up. The other mostly FA one, Louie's Loops, is already posted in this thread. I'd love to hear @HeadInClouds' take on this recipe -- I was hoping he'd chime in at some point, but this recipe should be right in his wheelhouse so hopefully he'll notice this tag and share some FA wisdom, or even mix this up himself and comment!

@Botboy141's Fruity Pebbles

2% Lemon Sicily (FA)
1% Mandarin (FA)
1% Lime Cold Press (FA)
1.5% Black Cherry (FA)
1% Strawberry (FA)
0.5% Bilberry (FA)
0.5% Raspberry (FA)
1.5% Meringue (FA)
1% Vienna Cream (FA)
0.5% Acetyl Pyrazine (TFA)
2d per 10ml Sweetener (TFA)
1d per 10ml Tart and Sour (TFA)

Heather · Apr 28, 2015

Bryan92081 said:
@TBrill20 and @Heather, here's louie's loops compliments of @PD Fitzpatrick.
3% TFA Fruit Circles
2% TFA Bavarian Cream
1% FA Bilberry
.5% TFA Acetyl Pyrazine
.5% TFA Marshmallow
.5% FW Hazelnut
.3% FA Lime Cold Pressed
.3% TFA Vanillin
5-10 drops CAP Vanilla Custard per 15 ml finished juice

You may have to fine tune the vanilla custard to suit your taste. 10 drops was to much and covered up the flavor to me. It really helps give it that cereal in milk flavor IMO.

I have no TFA Acetyl Pyrazine. Anyone know if I can substitute or leave out? Thanks in advance.

juicy76 · Apr 28, 2015

yes, diy is subjective to taste... Just try a 5 or 10 ml bottle to see if it is good for you. If not then order add & resteep to match this recipe.

fq06 · Apr 28, 2015

If your skipping AP I would bump Hazelnut up 0.5% ~ 1.0%
AP adds a corn cereal flavor to it but it should still be good with only the Hazelnut... just need more of it without the AP.

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