Nichrome ruined me

jamieg71 · Feb 11, 2015

Recently I got a free sample of Nichrome 80 24awg at a local vape shop. Guy just gave me some to try out. He told me to just add a couple wraps to how I would normally build and I should taste a difference.
So I did just that, although I use the Steam web app to approximate my builds beforehand, and an ohm meter to verify my builds, (as should you). I like to vape between .2 & .3 ohms.
I had heard that Nichrome leaves a funny taste and was apprehensive, but after the first build I couldn't discern any "funny taste", just more flavor than the equivalent build in kanthal.
So I've been building all my attys with Nichrome and enjoying the added flavor that comes with the extra surface area. Until today.
Decided I would rebuild my Veritas with some 26awg kanthal.... Bad idea. I can't even taste my juice. I'm ruint I tell ya, ruint.
Really sucks too because I am lazy and my fingers were not made for building attys.
Dammit Jim.

Pheye Labs · Feb 11, 2015

A single horizontal twisted nichrome on my Veritas has been the best tasting atty setup I've ever used.

Smoky Blue · Feb 11, 2015

you really liked it that much, @jamieg71

will have to try it out soon too.. thanks!

jamieg71 · Feb 12, 2015

Pheye Labs said:
A single horizontal twisted nichrome on my Veritas has been the best tasting atty setup I've ever used.

Nice, I'll have to try the twisted nichrome, I've been running dual 3mm six wraps with 24awg niCh 80

Smoky Blue said:
you really liked it that much, @jamieg71
will have to try it out soon too.. thanks!

Absolutely. It takes more wraps to achieve the same ohms, like zero ramp up time too. I just tried a 24awg kanthal build, same ohms everything, no comparison. So long as you don't have an allergy to nickel I'd say go for it.

Rommel · Feb 14, 2015

Just ordered some in all gauges imaginable. If im ruined by it i blame you @jamieg71 lol

Thanks for the input, i've been kinda hesitant about nichrome.

jamieg71 · Feb 14, 2015

Rommel said:
Just ordered some in all gauges imaginable. If im ruined by it i blame you @jamieg71 lol

Thanks for the input, i've been kinda hesitant about nichrome.

I'll be doing the same thing once my work picks back up. I finally got the Marquis clone and have been building it with 24awg ni and its screaming for a 26awg build.

Rommel · Feb 20, 2015

Yeah, nichrome pretty much ruined me too. Why didn't i try this before? Here on out all im gonna use is propably nichrome 80.

jamieg71 · Feb 21, 2015

Rommel said:
Yeah, nichrome pretty much ruined me too. Why didn't i try this before? Here on out all im gonna use is propably nichrome 80.

Working out well for you is it? Lol

Midniteoyl · Feb 21, 2015

If you have had any tank since before the current Aspires/Kangers, you have vaped NiChrome, btw

jamieg71 · Feb 21, 2015

Midniteoyl said:
If you have had any tank since before the current Aspires/Kangers, you have vaped NiChrome, btw

My first rta was an orchid, I jumped in all at once. Lol

madmonkey · Feb 22, 2015

Midniteoyl said:
If you have had any tank since before the current Aspires/Kangers, you have vaped NiChrome, btw

yup. I know for sure all the old Kanger coils were like 33ish gauge Nichrome....

The big difference is Kanthal has Aluminum in it and Nichrome doesn't. Not all Nichrome is the same either...there are different grades....Nicrome 80 for example is Iron free where as it's Nichrome 60 counterpart has an Iron balance to it as the number in the name of the Nichrome is the amount of Nickel in the wire.

Nichrome 80 has the highest melting point and lowest resistance of the Nichrome family. But even Nichrome 80's melting point is slightly lower than Kanthal A1.They're both excellent wires for what we use them for and at the end of the day. It comes down to personal preference. Just remember you made need a 31 or 32 gauge kanthal to match a 34 gauge Nichrome... I haven't tried building with the stuff yet as I am happy with Kanthal. But I do have a roll of Nichrome around here somewhere and a few thicker gauges on order...I'd be happy tho share the results ofthe "oh so scientific tests next week i you'd like

Number3124 · Feb 22, 2015

Don't nicrome builds pop when you try to dry burn them?

Midniteoyl · Feb 22, 2015

Number3124 said:
Don't nicrome builds pop when you try to dry burn them?

Only if you go too far.. I have dry burned and rewicked several in my day.. (not long ago.. LOL) What usually happens is the wire is actually NR-R-NR wire (non-resistance - resistance - non-resistance) and the weld between the types of wire pop.

Number3124 · Feb 22, 2015

Midniteoyl said:
Only if you go too far.. I have dry burned and rewicked several in my day.. (not long ago.. LOL) What usually happens is the wire is actually NR-R-NR wire (non-resistance - resistance - non-resistance) and the weld between the types of wire pop.

Huh? How does that work?

Midniteoyl · Feb 22, 2015

The coil legs, if resistance wire, will heat up just like the rest of the coil. This has the unfortunate effect of melting the insulators in pre-built coil heads.. So, to get around this, they would weld to non-resistant wire leads (legs), that do not get hot, onto a resistance wire coil.

This is the way almost everyone did it, except for Aspire, before going to Kanthal. This is why you could dry burn Kanger coils, and not Aspires - the Aspires would 'burn'

Number3124 · Feb 22, 2015

Not quite what I meant. I was talking about Nichrome 80, which I've heard has a habit of popping when you attempt to dryburn it.

MrScaryZ · Feb 22, 2015

I have yet to try Nichrome guess I should I will never use G-plat again a coil popped right up like a man in the box and burned my favorite shirt that damned welding shit

Midniteoyl · Feb 22, 2015

Number3124 said:
Not quite what I meant. I was talking about Nichrome 80, which I've heard has a habit of popping when you attempt to dryburn it.

Oh

Midniteoyl · Feb 22, 2015

Number3124 said:
Not quite what I meant. I was talking about Nichrome 80, which I've heard has a habit of popping when you attempt to dryburn it.

They can pop.. NiChrome 33ga, used in most smaller tanks, like the EVOD series, is tiny wire. If you heat it up too much, they can pop. However, its mostly due to the 'weld' between the NR an R wire popping, not so much the coil itself.

Number3124 · Feb 22, 2015

Midniteoyl said:
They can pop.. NiChrome 33ga, used in most smaller tanks, like the EVOD series, is tiny wire. If you heat it up too much, they can pop. However, its mostly due to the 'weld' between the NR an R wire popping, not so much the coil itself.

Oh. Okay. So something like 26 or 24agw (my two personal favorite gauges of Kanthal) shouldn't pop then. Might have to get some and try it out.

Citizen · Feb 23, 2015

Just tried NiCh80 for the first time today in a brand new Goblin. I'm sold.

dingo1799 · Feb 24, 2015

I built a dual coil 26ga nichrome for my mutation-x like 3 weeks ago, still going strong, with a dry burn every wick change every cpl days. Trick is to not OVERHEAT it. Once you see it starting to glow, which doesn't take long, let off it. If you're running vw, turn it down to dry burn. Pulse it a few times to get the goop burnt off then it's good to go.

You guys really wanna know what your juice tastes like? Nichrome and rayon wicks...

Citizen · Feb 24, 2015

dingo1799 said:
I built a dual coil 26ga nichrome for my mutation-x like 3 weeks ago, still going strong, with a dry burn every wick change every cpl days. Trick is to not OVERHEAT it. Once you see it starting to glow, which doesn't take long, let off it. If you're running vw, turn it down to dry burn. Pulse it a few times to get the goop burnt off then it's good to go.

You guys really wanna know what your juice tastes like? Nichrome and rayon wicks...

I can vouch for this setup. Nichrome and rayon in my orchids and I'm having a good time.

NC Dripper · Mar 2, 2015

Would it be crazy for me to buy some 22 gauge nichrome? I love building at about .2 with dual 22 kanthal. I figure 7 wraps of 22 nichrome would give me about the same resistance and more surface area for flavor and bigger clouds.

dingo1799 · Mar 3, 2015

NC Dripper said:
Would it be crazy for me to buy some 22 gauge nichrome? I love building at about .2 with dual 22 kanthal. I figure 7 wraps of 22 nichrome would give me about the same resistance and more surface area for flavor and bigger clouds.

Yeah, it would. 22ga nichrome has probably close to same resistance as 16-18 ga kanthal. Probably isn't a 22mm atty on the market big enough to hold a coil. A 30mm coil like on a 26650 sized mod, maybe. But then you'd have a hell of a lot of ramp up time to deal with. Like push the fire button, wait 20 sec then take a drag..IF your battery didn't explode trying to push it in the first place

dingo1799 · Mar 3, 2015

Just a FYI to everyone reading this thread... Nichrome and rayon in the mute x still going strong. 4-4 1/2 weeks now?

Rommel · Mar 3, 2015

Well, im screwed then as i just ordered 50m of 22 gauge nichrome.

I also ordered some 17 gauge Kanthal. Double screwed.

Number3124 · Mar 3, 2015

Rommel said:
Well, im screwed then as i just ordered 50m of 22 gauge nichrome.

I also ordered some 17 gauge Kanthal. Double screwed.

You could always get one of the 22650 scale Tobeco Tobh clones. Assuming you have a 22650 mod.

Smoky Blue · Mar 6, 2015

curious.. i have been tinkering with my atlantis.. and using the 26g kanthal..
what would i need for it using the nichrome? the same size or??

id love to order, but dont think i can play till next month..

jamieg71 · Mar 7, 2015

Smoky Blue said:
curious.. i have been tinkering with my atlantis.. and using the 26g kanthal..
what would i need for it using the nichrome? the same size or??

id love to order, but dont think i can play till next month..

24awg N80 would take about twice the wraps to achieve the same resistance. I believe 26awg N80 would take about one more wrap for same resistance. Hope that helps

Smoky Blue · Mar 7, 2015

jamieg71 said:
24awg N80 would take about twice the wraps to achieve the same resistance. I believe 26awg N80 would take about one more wrap for same resistance. Hope that helps

it does

thanks jamieg71

Keenanw · Apr 7, 2015

That stuff is a hit or miss with the flavor. A few of my builds with Nichrome shit out on me after a few hits and gives this terrible nasty taste only people who have vaped Nichrome can relate to. I don't hate it but I'm always scared even with my higher builds that I'll get that nasty taste again.

ej1024 · Apr 7, 2015

Come on men, I suggest you guys research on something before trying, after months of research I finally ditch all my kanthals and I'm 100% Nichrome from 28g down to 22g, I'm waiting for sigelei to build a super sub ohm box... Until then 22g nichrome80 is my thickest...
Kanthal is just nasty!! And that's the same reason I haven't bought any of the sub ohm tanks, I do have the sub tank but I'm using the RBA...
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madmonkey · Apr 7, 2015

kanthal wire can "pop" the same as Nicrome...it's all about the gauge of the wire that determines the amount of heat abuse it can take before it goes....a very easy way to demonstrate this is to take a thinner gauge piece of kanthal and hold it tight and then hold the flame of a lighter to it. The lighter will cut it clean in half....fairly quickly especially if it's like 31 gauge or above. It's all about balance with drying burning coils....timing is everything and it gives takes a little practice...I am sure most of us have all popped a coil or two....I even forked over for a wire welder a couple years ago when i first started building because I still cant tie a knot it NR-R-NR wires that doesn't come apart on me the second I try and wrap it. Anyone who ever had an Ithica or a Diver knows this pain well

Smoky Blue · Apr 7, 2015

I got some nichrome 20g, and dont know what to do with it lmao

helps??

ej1024 · Apr 7, 2015

Smoky Blue said:
I got some nichrome 20g, and dont know what to do with it lmao
helps??

Nichrome 80?

Smoky Blue · Apr 7, 2015

ej1024 said:
Nichrome 80?

no.. it says Nichrome 20g on the baggie..

ej1024 · Apr 7, 2015

Ah shoot...
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ej1024 · Apr 7, 2015

Smoky Blue said:
no.. it says Nichrome 20g on the baggie..

Check if it says 80 somewhere in the packaging

Smoky Blue · Apr 7, 2015

no it's in a baggie.. I got it out of a pif box here

ej1024 · Apr 7, 2015

Oh so you don't know what kind?
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Smoky Blue · Apr 7, 2015

no

someone else already told me in order to get my .5ohms i'd have to do like 33 wraps???
how the heck would i fit that into my dripper??

ej1024 · Apr 7, 2015

Smoky Blue said:
no

someone else already told me in order to get my .5ohms i'd have to do like 33 wraps???
how the heck would i fit that into my dripper??

Lol....
20g u have to make a lot wraps to achieved.5 why do you wanna use 20g in the first place? You can do 26g 6/7 wraps on a 2.5 mm...I have 20g kanthal that I don't use, you wanna switch??

Smoky Blue · Apr 7, 2015

ej1024 said:
Lol....
20g u have to make a lot wraps to achieved.5 why do you wanna use 20g in the first place? You can do 26g 6/7 wraps on a 2.5 mm...I have 20g kanthal that I don't use, you wanna switch??

lol yes!! I'd like to try it.. and well it was in the pif box.. thought it was something i could use..
well, guess i could make some pretty metal circles or something.. *shrugs..

one of these days

ej1024 · Apr 7, 2015

Do u have a photo?
What is PIF?
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Smoky Blue · Apr 7, 2015

I can do a photo in a bit.. and PIF = pay it forward

dave/jayce · Apr 22, 2015

@Taver13 just did the same to me....looks like I'll putting out another 40 bucks for 22 n 20 gauge nichcrome. What a difference in flavor!!!!

Taver13 · Apr 22, 2015

dave/jayce said:
@Taver13 just did the same to me....looks like I'll putting out another 40 bucks for 22 n 20 gauge nichcrome. What a difference in flavor!!!!

its night and day! glad your enjoying it!

dre · Apr 22, 2015

Have ya noticed 24g kanthal isn't as bad tasting as the thinner gauges? It's the only a1 i use. Switched to nichrome and ni200.

Taver13 · Apr 22, 2015

dre said:
Have ya noticed 24g kanthal isn't as bad tasting as the thinner gauges? It's the only a1 i use. Switched to nichrome and ni200.

tried 24 after a while of nichrome, still tasted like a bag of smashed assholes to me

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