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Somehow I doubt that's what's going on. There IS no evidence. He's waiting another day to see if something pops up, but it won't pop up.
I have no idea what he has or doesn't. And to be fair, it's not much different from Busardo taking a trip to China on Kanger's dime or to Washington comps of ProVape. If you send me junk, I can rip it. If you fly me to your vape shop and wine and dine me for a weekend I can find something nice to say about it without saying go buy it. Either way, it's still tainted, is it not? You want an honest review? Find a schmuck like me that buys stuff and just tells you what he gets. And btw, I'm not accusing any of these guys of being "tainted". Just saying how I view your reviews once you do X.
 

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Somehow I doubt that's what's going on. There IS no evidence. He's waiting another day to see if something pops up, but it won't pop up.
Sometimes it takes time to make evidence. JS
 

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fuck it...unsubscribed twisted and SMM...
twisted's a douche, cully's a coattail rider, and v, well, v didnt show enough titty...
think i will make a drink and watch a few tripper's vids...o_O:rolleyes::oops::eek::D:D
 
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well, that was a one pull handjob...
 

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If this was written by Shakespeare it would be called "Much Ado About Nothing"
 

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If this was written by Shakespeare it would be called "Much Ado About Nothing"
I was going to read your blog post on this topic, after reading your forum post on this topic, and now you tell me it is Much Ado About Nothing? So, what other pointless articles do you write? lol

In all seriousness, I suppose someone will update when Rip posts his reply to this stuff. If he is asking for (and therefor potentially getting) equity stake in a company to review their products, than that is an issue. The more you try to deflect away from that, the more obvious it is that you are aware of that. I don't know Rip or the folks at CCI so I can't speak to the credibility of either side. I do think it is only reasonable to let Rip respond before passing judgement, however, so I will wait for that.
 

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I was going to read your blog post on this topic, after reading your forum post on this topic, and now you tell me it is Much Ado About Nothing? So, what other pointless articles do you write? lol

In all seriousness, I suppose someone will update when Rip posts his reply to this stuff. If he is asking for (and therefor potentially getting) equity stake in a company to review their products, than that is an issue. The more you try to deflect away from that, the more obvious it is that you are aware of that. I don't know Rip or the folks at CCI so I can't speak to the credibility of either side. I do think it is only reasonable to let Rip respond before passing judgement, however, so I will wait for that.
I can't believe people are still clinging to the hopes that there is something to this. Even Twisted420 himself admits it is nothing but hearsay. There's nothing more to even discuss.
 

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And yet, you are still discussing this.

Looking closer at this, this entire thing (if it's even legit) is over a negotiation to promote an app (not a juice or a mod), and it seems the letter is in response to someone asking if Trip wants to be on the advisory board for that app. What's so unusual about that? What does promoting an "app" have to do with his juice or mod reviews? This tabloid journalism is going to destroy the vaping community if we let it get out of hand.
BUT... yesterday you said this. It's not about a mod or juice, it's about an app. Now today we learn that it is about devices and juice, and you say move along nothing to see here? Of course it is hearsay. But we are not in a court of law, we are in the court of public opinion. When a vendor says that a reviewer asked for 20% stake in his company to do a review, I find that to be rather interesting and I await the response of the reviewer. I also await similar stories from other vendors, because if he is doing this with all companies I'm sure more will follow. If not? Then, my friend, there is nothing to see here.

In the meantime, I have no ill will towards RT. I am being completely fair with him. I have no routing interest, as I have stated. Assuming he responds, I await and will see what he has to say.
 

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And yet, you are still discussing this.


BUT... yesterday you said this. It's not about a mod or juice, it's about an app. Now today we learn that it is about devices and juice, and you say move along nothing to see here? Of course it is hearsay. But we are not in a court of law, we are in the court of public opinion. When a vendor says that a reviewer asked for 20% stake in his company to do a review, I find that to be rather interesting and I await the response of the reviewer. I also await similar stories from other vendors, because if he is doing this with all companies I'm sure more will follow. If not? Then, my friend, there is nothing to see here.

In the meantime, I have no ill will towards RT. I am being completely fair with him. I have no routing interest, as I have stated. Assuming he responds, I await and will see what he has to say.
We learned that today? When did that happen?
 

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Well, apparently you didn't. People who watched the video out of curiosity did. Since you seemed to have missed it, here it is.

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"prior to me ever sending product" as opposed to an app.
 

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Well, apparently you didn't. People who watched the video out of curiosity did. Since you seemed to have missed it, here it is.

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"prior to me ever sending product" as opposed to an app.

Yawn, even Twisted420 HIMSELF admits it is nothing but hearsay, but if you want to continue on about it, by all means, continue on and on and on.
 

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Yawn, even Twisted420 HIMSELF admits it is nothing but hearsay, but if you want to continue on about it, by all means, continue on and on and on.
You're not that dumb, so why are you acting like you are? Hearsay is something I heard but can't speak to first hand and don't have compelling evidence of. So yes, for Twisted this is certainly hearsay, and it is for you and for myself also. For the vendor, however, it is a first hand account. Obviously, if this were court Twisted couldn't testify to that deal that was allegedly offered because that would be hearsay. He wasn't there to hear it offered, and he hasn't heard or seen recordings of the offer being discussed. The vendor (whom he screenshots a convo with) however could testify about the alleged offer because for him it is a first hand account, and thus not hearsay.

But again, you said this topic isn't worth discussing. I will wait for your response after you finish discussing this same topic in the other threads you are discussing it in.
 

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You're not that dumb, so why are you acting like you are? Hearsay is something I heard but can't speak to first hand and don't have compelling evidence of. So yes, for Twisted this is certainly hearsay, and it is for you and for myself also. For the vendor, however, it is a first hand account. Obviously, if this were court Twisted couldn't testify to that deal that was allegedly offered because that would be hearsay. He wasn't there to hear it offered, and he hasn't heard or seen recordings of the offer being discussed. The vendor (whom he screenshots a convo with) however could testify about the alleged offer because for him it is a first hand account, and thus not hearsay.

But again, you said this topic isn't worth discussing. I will wait for your response after you finish discussing this same topic in the other threads you are discussing it in.
Lol, blah blah blah, it's over already, even Twisted himself is admitting he might just be full of shit. Why are you still going on about it?
 

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Lol, blah blah blah, it's over already, even Twisted himself is admitting he might just be full of shit. Why are you still going on about it?
Who cares if Twisted is full of it? If that is the case, than I'm sure Kurt from CCI will come out and say he never said any of that, and this will all go away. As for why I am still discussing this, I'm not the one saying that it is over and isn't worth discussing. Yet I have found someone who says it isn't worth discussing to discuss it with me so I continue... after this.
 

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Who cares if Twisted is full of it? If that is the case, than I'm sure Kurt from CCI will come out and say he never said any of that, and this will all go away. As for why I am still discussing this, I'm not the one saying that it is over and isn't worth discussing. Yet I have found someone who says it isn't worth discussing to discuss it with me so I continue... after this.
What, my head is spinning. What are you babbling about?
 

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What, my head is spinning. What are you babbling about?
Where did I lose you. I am mocking the way you say this isn't worth discussing while simultaneously discussing it in multiple threads. The rest of it was a simple reference to the content of the video, from which came the screenshot I posted. Kurt from Cloud Chasers Inc told Twisted that he was asked for stake in his company in exchange for posted reviews. If Twisted is full of shit, than I'm sure Kurt will come out and tell us that the conversation that was screenshot was edited or changed and that the content of that conversation never happened.
 

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Where did I lose you. I am mocking the way you say this isn't worth discussing while simultaneously discussing it in multiple threads. The rest of it was a simple reference to the content of the video, from which came the screenshot I posted. Kurt from Cloud Chasers Inc told Twisted that he was asked for stake in his company in exchange for posted reviews. If Twisted is full of shit, than I'm sure Kurt will come out and tell us that the conversation that was screenshot was edited or changed and that the content of that conversation never happened.
Yeah I got that the first thirty times you said it, but I'm not falling for it. I'll speak about whatever the hell I want to speak about, and I was right about this thing from the start, so . . ???????
 

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Yeah I got that the first thirty times you said it, but I'm not falling for it. I'll speak about whatever the hell I want to speak about, and I was right about this thing from the start, so . . ???????
I'm not telling you to stop speaking about it. If you want to speak about things you say aren't worth speaking about, I in fact encourage you to do so. I will even discuss them with you. See?

As for you being right about this from the start, you're not even right about this now. You're still in another thread claiming this is all about an app.
 

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I'm not telling you to stop speaking about it. If you want to speak about things you say aren't worth speaking about, I in fact encourage you to do so. I will even discuss them with you. See?

As for you being right about this from the start, you're not even right about this now. You're still in another thread claiming this is all about an app.
It is about an app. I've seen no evidence otherwise.
 

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Well if you keep choosing not to look, you won't ever see that you are wrong, and you can keep claiming that you're right.
You keep showing me an image taken from the video in which Twisted himself admits it's nothing but hearsay and in which Twisted himself literally says "maybe I'm full of shit" and you want to me to look at it and say, hey, that's EVIDENCE. Really? Lol.
 

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It is evidence. It is part of the available body of information on the subject. You're inability to comprehend the nuances of "hearsay" aside, you can at least understand a simple and straightforward concept like evidence, right? Every single piece in the complete body of information on a subject in question is evidence. The existence of evidence doesn't mean guilt, and the integrity of any individual piece of evidence can and should be questioned, but none of that changes the fact that it is evidence.
 

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What? We just watched a video in which Twisted420 pretty much admitted he had no evidence. Not sure what video you watched. All I have to say is V4P3R should hang up his pretend journalism hat because he looks like a big fool right about now, lol.
 

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Try to follow me here. If my mailman is a fraud, does that mean I can't trust a letter that he delivers from my mother? Perhaps. Maybe he forged it and slipped it in there, in which case I would call my mother to confirm or deny her involvement in writing the letter. What difference does it make if Twisted is full of shit? He is posting a conversation with a third party who is making the claims against RT. Unless you believe that Twisted edited the conversation, and that CCI never made these claims. In which case, you should go to them and have them confirm or deny their involvement in the conversation. The evidence is the claim of CCI. That is their testimony. It is hearsay from Twisted because he wasn't there for the conversation, but in the conversation it is a first hand account, not hearsay, from CCI.
 

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Try to follow me here. If my mailman is a fraud, does that mean I can't trust a letter that he delivers from my mother? Perhaps. Maybe he forged it and slipped it in there, in which case I would call my mother to confirm or deny her involvement in writing the letter. What difference does it make if Twisted is full of shit? He is posting a conversation with a third party who is making the claims against RT. Unless you believe that Twisted edited the conversation, and that CCI never made these claims. In which case, you should go to them and have them confirm or deny their involvement in the conversation. The evidence is the claim of CCI. That is their testimony. It is hearsay from Twisted because he wasn't there for the conversation, but in the conversation it is a first hand account, not hearsay, from CCI.
Oh wait, now I've found what you were talking about, you neglected to include the ENTIRE thing which is THUS

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Oh wait, now I've found what you were talking about, you neglected to include the ENTIRE thing which is THUS
Hey, look at you, finally catching up and stuff. Good job by you. Now, I didn't "neglect" to post the rest of the convo. Remember, I don't have a dog in this fight and I wasn't making a point about RT when I posted it. I was making a point about you continuously saying it was about an app even though the convo clearly say that product was sent and therefor it could not be an app, and that was why I posted the part i posted. I'm not the guy declaring guilt or innocence here. As far as I am concerned, the jury is still out on this one pending word from RT and other companies. In the event that no other company comes forward with similar requests, I will assume he is innocent.
 

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Hey, look at you, finally catching up and stuff. Good job by you. Now, I didn't "neglect" to post the rest of the convo. Remember, I don't have a dog in this fight and I wasn't making a point about RT when I posted it. I was making a point about you continuously saying it was about an app even though the convo clearly say that product was sent and therefor it could not be an app, and that was why I posted the part i posted. I'm not the guy declaring guilt or innocence here. As far as I am concerned, the jury is still out on this one pending word from RT and other companies. In the event that no other company comes forward with similar requests, I will assume he is innocent.
But it was about an app (the other letter that was offered as "proof" was about an app) up until today when he posted that video, and even that is just bullshit. It's all bullshit. Move along coyote, move along.
 

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At the end of all this the mudslingers are going to lose followers and Rip is going to gain even more notoriety. Wait and see....
 

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At the end of all this the mudslingers are going to lose followers and Rip is going to gain even more notoriety. Wait and see....
What do they have against Rip anyway? He's some just weird dude doing youtube videos. The only thing I can guess is that he get more traffic than they do and they think if they destroy him, then they'll somehow get that traffic instead, even though that's not the way it works.
 

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What do they have against Rip anyway? He's some just weird dude doing youtube videos. The only thing I can guess is that he get more traffic than they do and they think if they destroy him, then they'll somehow get that traffic instead, even though that's not the way it works.
Beats me why they're on the attack. Jealousy? Hell I dunno.
I'm not a Tripper "nut hugger" like 420 said..lol. I don't really like Rip's stuff much at all.
But the more they go after him on half ass rumors the worse they'll look and the better off Trip is gonna be that's for sure.
 

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It's not an act. He really is this dumb.
Me dumb? Lol, I'm not the one who blindly repeated unfounded accusation at my blog and now has to save face, dip shit.
 

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Me dumb? Lol, I'm not the one who blindly repeated unfounded accusation at my blog and now has to save face, dip shit.
Actually, you did blindly repeat unfounded accusation on your blog. We're posting in the thread where you pimped the link to it.

It's okay, take your time. I know it takes you awhile to grasp things.
 

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Actually, you did blindly repeat unfounded accusation on your blog. We're posting in the thread where you pimped the link to it.

It's okay, take your time. I know it takes you awhile to grasp things.
No, I published an article sticking up for Rip Trippers and calling the allegations bullshit, and I was right. Sorry if you don't know the difference, but that's the difference between someone who doesn't know jack shit about journalism (you) and someone who studied journalism while getting a college degree in writing (me). So, uh, like it or not, you look like a FOOL right now for parroting unfounded accusations.
 

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And why am I eating crow? Oh, that's right. Because you say that I "parroted" the accusations made by Twisted420 in my article. Why don't you head on over there and quote the parts where I'm parroting him:

http://www.v4p3r.com/calling-out-rip-trippers/

Go ahead. I'll wait.
Wait for what? You're trolling my thread acting like a dumb shit after the entire Rip Trippers thing blew up in your face.
 

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Here, I'll help you out, man. The article really isn't that long. I'll just post the whole thing to make it easier for you to point out the part where I'm parroting Twisted420:

Popular YouTube reviewer Rip Trippers may have some explaining to do.

Allegations have surfaced of the reviewer asking vendors for cold, hard cash or an equity stake in their company in order to provide a review of their product.

Twisted420 has broken this news on Reddit, and has promised to upload a video to his YouTube channel with even more information.

Here is a recent video from Rip Trippers in which he claims that he does not receive payment to review products, complete with text overlay. Just watch the first couple minutes:

[[ YouTube Video ]]

[[ Image of Matt from Suck My Mod's post on Reddit ]]

An anonymous source has also claimed that a number of vendors have confirmed these allegations against Rip Trippers, but they refuse to go on record, as it may incriminate them in the public eye for paying for reviews.

According to Twisted420, these rumors have circulated for awhile, and have recently gained teeth from the sources below:

[[ Screenshots posted by Twisted420 on Reddit ]]
 

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Here, I'll help you out, man. The article really isn't that long. I'll just post the whole thing to make it easier for you to point out the part where I'm parroting Twisted420:

Popular YouTube reviewer Rip Trippers may have some explaining to do.

Allegations have surfaced of the reviewer asking vendors for cold, hard cash or an equity stake in their company in order to provide a review of their product.

Twisted420 has broken this news on Reddit, and has promised to upload a video to his YouTube channel with even more information.

Here is a recent video from Rip Trippers in which he claims that he does not receive payment to review products, complete with text overlay. Just watch the first couple minutes:

[[ YouTube Video ]]

[[ Image of Matt from Suck My Mod's post on Reddit ]]

An anonymous source has also claimed that a number of vendors have confirmed these allegations against Rip Trippers, but they refuse to go on record, as it may incriminate them in the public eye for paying for reviews.

According to Twisted420, these rumors have circulated for awhile, and have recently gained teeth from the sources below:

[[ Screenshots posted by Twisted420 on Reddit ]]

I don't know what that is. If it's something on your National Enquirer blog, I told you already, I don't read your blog. Save you BULLSHIT for your own threads and stop trolling mine with it
 

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I don't know what that is. If it's something on your National Enquirer blog, I told you already, I don't read your blog. Save you BULLSHIT for your own threads and stop trolling mine with it
That's exactly what I thought, you useless piece of shit. You're just continuing to troll and make baseless accusations by talking out of the side of your mouth and your ass at the same time.

Where did you get your journalism degree from? The Manhattan School of Typewriter Maintenance for Women?
 

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I don't know what that is. If it's something on your National Enquirer blog, I told you already, I don't read your blog. Save you BULLSHIT for your own threads and stop trolling mine with it

From your post titled "V4P3R Parodies Vape Mania Cover":

Check out what V4P3R said about Vape Mania on his self-published blog.

"Vape Mania is a book anyone can digest during a week of before-bedtime reading, or to fill up a rainy Sunday afternoon. In pure slapstick fashion, Vape Mania explores and exploits just about every public misconception about e-cigarettes, complete with sporadic diagrams and drawings. With characters like DarthVaper, the author ironically explores the hilarity of online vaping forums. Vape Mania is funny, no doubt. Sometimes laugh out loud funny. Everyone who vapes will appreciate the comedy of this book, especially those who are part of the online vaping community. The book is smartly written, though at times it does degrade into screwball humor a la Monty Python style . . . Vape Mania is a great conversation starter to have on your coffee table or in your vape shop, and would make a great gift for that dedicated vaper who has everything."

--V4P3R

Tell me more about how you don't read my blog when you take quotes directly from an article written on it.
 
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