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I bought this 120ml 100mg nic from Vaperstek. Their website has a warning in large warning saying DO NOT SHAKE BOTTLE OF VG BASED NICOTINE! in red letters. Ok.

So here's the label on my bottle of PG based nic. Is this mislabeled? Should I be shaking this before mixing? Why would their warning on the web page only say not to shake VG based nic?
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I bought this 120ml 100mg nic from Vaperstek. Their website has a warning in large warning saying DO NOT SHAKE BOTTLE OF VG BASED NICOTINE! in red letters. Ok.

So here's the label on my bottle of PG based nic. Is this mislabeled? Should I be shaking this before mixing? Why would their warning on the web page only say not to shake VG based nic?
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I emailed them about that same label on my PG nic a couple weeks ago. I had never noticed it on any other bottles that I got from them. The current owner told me that the process they now use shouldn't allow for hot spots in the nic. She cautioned that shaking causes air bubbles, air causes oxidation, as we all know.

So... I'll suggest to do what you feel best about. Prior to the email, I've always shaken. This one, I rolled, lol.
 

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I bought this 120ml 100mg nic from Vaperstek. Their website has a warning in large warning saying DO NOT SHAKE BOTTLE OF VG BASED NICOTINE! in red letters. Ok.

So here's the label on my bottle of PG based nic. Is this mislabeled? Should I be shaking this before mixing? Why would their warning on the web page only say not to shake VG based nic?
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It depends. I would assume any nicotine base Should already be adequately mixed, and once mixed in PG or VG, nicotine will stay that way (mixed up)

And so, shaking will only increase the speed of oxidation, which is not ideal

However, if you aren't sure that it's mixed well when you get it, then shake away- before the first use only!
 
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I've always heard shake the crap out of nic so there's no Hotspots of more concentration in a drop. But hell who knows. I always shake everything.
I always shake my juice, and flavors before mixing, but based on the label I haven't been shaking this nic. Then I saw @ajvapes post a pic of his (appears to be the same as mine; Vaperstek only sells one type of EU sourced nic) without the Do Not Shake label.

I'm going to shoot them an email. I haven't noticed any differences in my mixes, but most of them are still steeping.
 

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I emailed them about that same label on my PG nic a couple weeks ago. I had never noticed it on any other bottles that I got from them. The current owner told me that the process they now use shouldn't allow for hot spots in the nic. She cautioned that shaking causes air bubbles, air causes oxidation, as we all know.

So... I'll suggest to do what you feel best about. Prior to the email, I've always shaken. This one, I rolled, lol.
It depends. I would assume any nicotine base Should already be adequately mixed, and once mixed in PG or VG, nicotine will stay that way (mixed up)

And so, shaking will only increase the speed of oxidation, which is not ideal

However, if you aren't sure that it's mixed well when you get it, then shake away...seems unlikely but depends on how a company handles their stuff
Thanks. Between the label differences I mentioned, and their warning on the web page about VG based nic, it's confusing. Glad to hear someone asked them. I'm not going to shake it (the nic).
 

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Thanks. Between the label differences I mentioned, and their warning on the web page about VG based nic, it's confusing. Glad to hear someone asked them. I'm not going to shake it (the nic).
I did mix up some samples when I got it, just cuz I always do, in case there's anything weird with nic, but they were all fine.

If for any reason you do decide to contact them, I spoke with Janine. She's super helpful, really friendly and we chatted for a couple days about all kinds of things, lol.
 

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I did mix up some samples when I got it, just cuz I always do, in case there's anything weird with nic, but they were all fine.

If for any reason you do decide to contact them, I spoke with Janine. She's super helpful, really friendly and we chatted for a couple days about all kinds of things, lol.
Thanks. I've been happy with the nic so far, and have used about 1/3 of the 120ml, but a lot of it is still steeping.

I'm thinking about ordering a liter from them before any excise taxes hit. Are you happy with the Vaperstek nic?
 

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Thanks. I've been happy with the nic so far, and have used about 1/3 of the 120ml, but a lot of it is still steeping.

I'm thinking about ordering a liter from them before any excise taxes hit. Are you happy with the Vaperstek nic?
I used to get accused of being a fangirl, but if that's the worse thing about liking a brand, so be it. I've been buying Vaperstek since 2014 and have always been very happy with it. I get the throat hit nic, but when I looked a couple days ago, they only had it in a VG base and I prefer a PG base. I don't think they intend to get more. Everyone else I know that buys the premium, the one you have, have never had anything bad to say about it.

What matters most is if YOU are happy with it.
 

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How does shaking a closed bottle introduce oxygen into it? Is it already in the bottle and it's inert but the shaking makes it active? Are there microscopic holes in the bottle and/or cap in which the oxygen leaks into it? That doesn't make sense for if the holes exist the oxygen would penetrate on its own. I'm not a chemist but I'm not buying this until I see a rational explanation.
 

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I emailed Vaperstek and got a reply from Janine, saying not to shake either of their nics. Quoting..."Yes, this is a new label for not shaking. The reason we put it on both is that most people shake the crap out of their nicotine because it's what has always been done. The VG is more prone to issues with shaking but even the PG can possibly be effected. We want our customers to have the best nicotine so not shaking any of it is what is best - for our nicotine. We haven't had but 1 problem with someone complaining about their nicotine - but found out that they shook it to death and then stored it for a bit and was unhappy when they opened it. We don't want that to happen - therefore - do not shake."
 

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I emailed Vaperstek and got a reply from Janine, saying not to shake either of their nics. Quoting..."Yes, this is a new label for not shaking. The reason we put it on both is that most people shake the crap out of their nicotine because it's what has always been done. The VG is more prone to issues with shaking but even the PG can possibly be effected. We want our customers to have the best nicotine so not shaking any of it is what is best - for our nicotine. We haven't had but 1 problem with someone complaining about their nicotine - but found out that they shook it to death and then stored it for a bit and was unhappy when they opened it. We don't want that to happen - therefore - do not shake."

Sounds like "shake it if you want to, just don't bitch about it to us if it oxidizes." They're covering their ass, I don't blame them one bit.
 

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I emailed them about that same label on my PG nic a couple weeks ago. I had never noticed it on any other bottles that I got from them. The current owner told me that the process they now use shouldn't allow for hot spots in the nic. She cautioned that shaking causes air bubbles, air causes oxidation, as we all know.

So... I'll suggest to do what you feel best about. Prior to the email, I've always shaken. This one, I rolled, lol.
Shake, rattle or roll your nic before mixing with it.
I shake mine but use from 30 ml bottles so air infiltration/oxidation is minimized before using the bottle up and then refilling it from a 120 ml bottle from the freezer.

Always let your freezer kept nic warm to room temp and shake before using or decanting to a 30 ml bottle as I do.

Just the way I roll ;)
 

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