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I went on this page https://www.steam-engine.org/modrange.html and what I got from it is that the max voltage for my mod is limiting my wattage?

I am using the Eleaf iStick TC100W, which actually goes to 120W. The coil I am using can go to 160W. But my mod limits me to 75W. What is the problem and do I need a better mod (in case what needs to improve)?
 

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I went on this page https://www.steam-engine.org/modrange.html and what I got from it is that the max voltage for my mod is limiting my wattage?

I am using the Eleaf iStick TC100W, which actually goes to 120W. The coil I am using can go to 160W. But my mod limits me to 75W. What is the problem and do I need a better mod (in case what needs to improve)?

If I am not mistaken, that mod will run with either one or two batteries. So how many batteries do you have in it?
 

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What batteries are you using? And what is the resistance of your coil?
 

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some mods only go max wattage with really low ohms like .15 what is the coil your trying to run on it.
 

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if you can post a picture of your RDA with the mesh in place we might be able to see the issue but my gut is telling me that your .12 is being detected as an unsafe resistance and your mod is limiting the power.
 

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I am using 18650 batteries, and the coil is dual mesh 0.12 ohm.
But what 18650 batteries. The range in output current from 4-30 amps. depending on the brand and model.
If your batteries do not have enough 'punch' the mod will limit your wattage.
The output voltage of the batteries drops below the required voltage to run at your desired wattage.

to run at 175 watts you wll require 2 GOOD 20 amp cells.
And even then they will not run too long at that wattage unless they are VTC5A or the like.
An no battery over 3000 mah will work for vaping at over 10 watts or so. I think there may be one that is a bit over 3000 mah that is good but aside from that.

Most batteries with fire in the name have vastly over rated capacities on the label. some that say 40 amps have been tested and found to be 15 amp or so cells.
 
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But what 18650 batteries. The range in output current from 4-30 amps. depending on the brand and model.
If your batteries do not have enough 'punch' the mod will limit your wattage.
The output voltage of the batteries drops below the required voltage to run at your desired wattage.

to run at 175 watts you wll require 2 GOOD 20 amp cells.
And even then they will not run too long at that wattage unless they are VTC5A or the like.
An no battery over 3000 mah will work for vaping at over 10 watts or so. I think there may be one that is a bit over 3000 mah that is good but aside from that.

Most batteries with fire in the name have vastly over rated capacities on the label. some that say 40 amps have been tested and found to be 15 amp or so cells.
Sony VTC5A 18650 2600mAh 25A
 

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good batteries. They are not your problem unless not fully charged.
Mods can be overrated as well.
Many will only reach their maximum wattage at a certain coil resistance.
 

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I am using 18650 batteries, and the coil is dual mesh 0.12 ohm.

You're also mighty close to the lower limit at which this mod will fire at all. It only will fire down to 0.1 ohm.

That model has been around for a good while. You might want to upgrade; I think you're asking the mod to operate at a level for which it really wasn't designed. It may be that some sort of protection is kicking in since your coil resistance is so low and/or there's some issue with the batteries.
 

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it is limiting it to 3v and 25amps

between 2 cells, that is 12.5amp per cell

is there some way to alter that setting? a GUI for PC, or in menu?
 
good batteries. They are not your problem unless not fully charged.
Mods can be overrated as well.
Many will only reach their maximum wattage at a certain coil resistance.
Try a firmware update, your mod thinks it's only supplying power from one battery.

There's also this:
http://vapingunderground.com/thread...-limit-battery-config-and-impressions.188625/
I updated the firmware to the latest version (v1.13), got both batteries fully charged via external charger and my mod still limits me to 75W. Note that if I unscrew my atomizer and screw it on again I am able to get the wattage up to ~82W due to the mod reading 0.13 ohms instead of 0.12. Sometimes I can get it to ~93W.
 
it is limiting it to 3v and 25amps

between 2 cells, that is 12.5amp per cell

is there some way to alter that setting? a GUI for PC, or in menu?
I can't find any way to change amps or voltage except changing wattage on my mod, and the software for eleaf is only for updating.
 
Will reflect @lordmage & @nadalama 's wisdom here. It seems like you're trying to go lower than the mod's built in safety protection will allow.
You're also mighty close to the lower limit at which this mod will fire at all. It only will fire down to 0.1 ohm.

That model has been around for a good while. You might want to upgrade; I think you're asking the mod to operate at a level for which it really wasn't designed. It may be that some sort of protection is kicking in since your coil resistance is so low and/or there's some issue with the batteries.
Alright, so I was already into buying a new mod, but what do I need to know in terms of resistance and safety before buying? It would be depressing to buy a new mod only to find out it has the same problem as my current mod.
 

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I updated the firmware to the latest version (v1.13), got both batteries fully charged via external charger and my mod still limits me to 75W. Note that if I unscrew my atomizer and screw it on again I am able to get the wattage up to ~82W due to the mod reading 0.13 ohms instead of 0.12. Sometimes I can get it to ~93W.
sounds like you need a bigger mod to run the power you want on that atty.
 

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You're limiting out. If any limit Is reached the mid will only fire what it can within said limits. Newer mods will tend to have larger firing range.
I'd memors serves; however, that particular mod was capable of using 75w with one battery... make sure both batteries are adequately charged and installed properly.
 
You're limiting out. If any limit Is reached the mid will only fire what it can within said limits. Newer mods will tend to have larger firing range.
I'd memors serves; however, that particular mod was capable of using 75w with one battery... make sure both batteries are adequately charged and installed properly.
Exactly what limits are you talking about? Need to know this to buy a new mod.
 

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Exactly what limits are you talking about? Need to know this to buy a new mod.
Voltage and amp limits..
Quite honestly your best bet is to decide how much you want to spend, write down a list of features it MUST have and features you have zero interest in.
In all honesty though. Most newer mods should work with that resistance
 

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Alright, so I was already into buying a new mod, but what do I need to know in terms of resistance and safety before buying? It would be depressing to buy a new mod only to find out it has the same problem as my current mod.

In my opinion, you want a mod that handles at least two 18650 batteries, that will fire down to about 0.08 ohms, output of 120 watts or more, with all the standard protections that almost all regulated mods have now. If you are interested in temperature control, your mod will need to be able to do that, and there need to be stainless steel coils available for the tank you use.

Measure the diameter of your tank so you can get a mod that's deep enough for the tank to sit on it without overhang.

As @f1r3b1rd said, most newer models of mods will do what you need, if they supply more than about 120 watts of power. The 200W Aegis Legend would work, the Vaporesso Gen, the Voopoo X217, or similar will work fine.
 

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<humor> @f1r3b1rd & @nadalama are on my payroll as humble staff. One drives my big expensive car. The other one handles making sure I am where I need to be, on the days I need to be somewhere. See? Your problems was so easy my staff fielded them without me needing to reply. </humor> :) Thank you Jerry Clower.

In seriousness though they are great friends. I am quite sure both of them have their own respectively full and enjoyable lives. Would not ever desire to interfere or degrade them. A bit of light humor though is at times worth an effort. :)

Their responses don't need any further input from me. Older regulated devices used to not fire below 0.20 ohm coils. This didn't matter if the device was dual, triple, quad battery. It was just one of those quirky industry standards for a little while.

Sometimes a possibility exists the computer aided manufacturing goes a bit off. There is human handed quality control, but we know humans make errors too, or simply let so many go through when a boss wasn't watching. This is the age old "shit happens" rule/law/statute, life is always tossing this at us.

The more I see it happen the more I'm inclined to sit back and give a hearty chuckle. Mind I'm not laughing at anyone's misfortune, rather I'm laughing at how brilliantly life can act so instantaneously to foul someone or something up. It truly it is one the most profound wonders to living. If you cry over it well you'll go mad, yes that's from experience. Laughing might not help but is sure doesn't hurt either. :)

@nadalama , Hic's Bubble Gum recipe is very close ( I hesitate to say exact, it may or may not be, jury still out for me. ) to yours. I'm now vaping a 10 ml batch of it. :) Mixed it up last night but didn't get to a point to vape it until just a few moments ago.
 

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I don't know if it would help you or not but that mod's compatible with arctic fox firmware (3rd party, not eleaf firmware).
https://nfeteam.org/

It might not be a bad idea to get another mod anyway. I have one (had 2, 1 died and got another). Decent little mod but it has issues. Inside the mod the firing button switch internally is mounted to a small circuit board. That board is held onto the main board only by a few solder points and they're all on one side. So every time you press the button it applies pressure, starts to rock that smaller circuit board. Once it begins to rock and wobble with each press of the fire button it snaps those solder points and the mod stops firing. Not to mention only 22mm atomizers will fit it if I'm not mistaken, with so many newer atomizers being 24mm and larger they'd overhang on that mod.

Sorry for the shitty photo quality, but this is what I was talking about. The blue bit is the actual fire button inside, the four solder points on the left are what attach the two boards together. Acts like a hinge when it gets weak, just a poor design.

Picture 151.jpg

If it's any help, I just picked up another mod. The voopoo drag 2 is pretty capable, it's on sale at ivapesupply.com and depending what color you get, should be able to get it for $20-25 shipped using code 'cvd50'. I picked the black puzzle, the code dropped it to $15 and $5 shipping. Pretty sure it's located in NJ so shouldn't be too terrible for shipping. I don't know it's the best mod ever, it's a solid mod, dual battery, 177w and for the price.. it's around $15 less than I paid for that istick tc100w a couple years ago.
 
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