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Jinx'd

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anyone have experience with this ? i'm looking for a good one. for a large'ish dog.
 

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Not a trainer but have read that it is always better to train with positive reward rather than negative consequences. I question the overall effectiveness of the collars.
I assume you are referring to the zap collars like I wear. ;)
 

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We have an Australian Shepherd and she was a holy terror until we got a "patapet" collar. It has 3 functions: beep, vibrate and shock. It took about a week with the collar before we noticed a real change in her behavior. We have never shocked her with it. Mostly the beep was enough to get her attention. In the last 5 months I've only had to vibrate her twice, once to stop her from running in the street and the other to get her to stop humping the cat. (LONG STORY BUT IM NOT FROM ALABAMA SO NO INTERSPECIES EROTICA IN MY HOUSE)
The collar was about 35 bucks from amazon and best money I could have spent on the dog.

The functions do gave intensity settings and they are all on the weakest setting. I tried then all on myself before I put them in the dog, just in case i would ever need to shock her.
We took the collar off last night, but, in 5 months shes gone from holy terror, to what I can see will be a great service dog.
 

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We have an Australian Shepherd and she was a holy terror until we got a "patapet" collar. It has 3 functions: beep, vibrate and shock. It took about a week with the collar before we noticed a real change in her behavior. We have never shocked her with it. Mostly the beep was enough to get her attention. In the last 5 months I've only had to vibrate her twice, once to stop her from running in the street and the other to get her to stop humping the cat. (LONG STORY BUT IM NOT FROM ALABAMA SO NO INTERSPECIES EROTICA IN MY HOUSE)
The collar was about 35 bucks from amazon and best money I could have spent on the dog.

The functions do gave intensity settings and they are all on the weakest setting. I tried then all on myself before I put them in the dog, just in case i would ever need to shock her.
We took the collar off last night, but, in 5 months shes gone from holy terror, to what I can see will be a great service dog.
That's good to hear. Didn't know there were some with different modes. I keep trying to figure out how to reward mine for not barking at the door when she barks at the door everytime, lol.
 

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That's good to hear. Didn't know there were some with different modes. I keep trying to figure out how to reward mine for not barking at the door when she barks at the door everytime, lol.
The beep works great for that. Aussies are extremely hyper, since they are used as herd dogs. Its like having another adhd kid. The beep breaks her concentration and she just gets quiet and sits.
 

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I guess SHOCKPET wouldn't have sold as well :giggle:

We had a pound mutt that barked at everything and nothing with the same gusto. Old school shock collar, she winced but couldn't stop herself from barking. Tried it on myself and holy shit!!!! Gave up on it.
Years later she passed (not from shock therapy).
Wife got a baby Pit. Barked at everything and nothing even better than the 1st dog :wait:
Knock the dust off the old shock collar, try it... yep it still gets you just to the edge of cardiac arrest.
Put it on the Pit and she barely noticed it. It would irritate her at best (see honey badger don't give a fuck).
She still barks more, and louder than any other dog on the block :gaah:
 
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We have an Australian Shepherd and she was a holy terror until we got a "patapet" collar. It has 3 functions: beep, vibrate and shock. It took about a week with the collar before we noticed a real change in her behavior. We have never shocked her with it. Mostly the beep was enough to get her attention. In the last 5 months I've only had to vibrate her twice, once to stop her from running in the street and the other to get her to stop humping the cat. (LONG STORY BUT IM NOT FROM ALABAMA SO NO INTERSPECIES EROTICA IN MY HOUSE)
The collar was about 35 bucks from amazon and best money I could have spent on the dog.

The functions do gave intensity settings and they are all on the weakest setting. I tried then all on myself before I put them in the dog, just in case i would ever need to shock her.
We took the collar off last night, but, in 5 months shes gone from holy terror, to what I can see will be a great service dog.
Did you let your wife have the remote when testing on yourself?
 

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For a brief amount of time, I had the opportunity to work with a puppy being trained as a service animal, then with an older dog, too. We always used the treat reward. Worked well, for the most part. The puppy just wasn't able to make it through the program, while the older dog was just incredible.

Fast forward to these days... my personal dog is one of the goofiest animals I've known, but pretty smart, too. Her big thing is barking. Haven't been able to curb that in the least. No treat reward, no training collar, nothing has worked. She doesn't like when the cat enters the room, even though they're best pals, doesn't like when a human enters a room, doesn't like the doorbell. I guess she's just protective. Aside from that, she's a very good girl, though she did have some growing pains, like a teenager.
 

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anyone have experience with this ? i'm looking for a good one. for a large'ish dog.
well first I have to ask..
what kind of dog.
then ask what do you want your dog to do?

pull a cart
or
slead
maybe
just walk nice...

if your looking for a THICK leather with solid buckel.. watch out for DIES.

BIG dogs and CHOKE collars are a BIG NO NO..
unless just used for the sound {advance training}
they can damage there own wind pipe if ya don't know what your doing.

the NYLON can cut into there necks if not properly put on.

I found this
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2 inch... HEAVY DUTY SOLID buckle
at this place
http://leatherbrothers.com/Collars/Leather/4603.htm

yet purchased threw HERE KITTY KITTY https://www.here-kittykitty.com/

I CALLED and spoke to Karen..
she was wonderful and helpful in assisting to find a standard walking collar that could hold
my St. Bernard .. my concern was The dies. and not being heavy duty enough..
That one is all that and the Bag of chips.

edit:
ooo ya and if you have da hoodines of da dog world that can slip ANY COLLER or harness
then ya get a walking harness and coller and CLIP da TWO together..
they won't escape from that...
 
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Not much to add just to say be careful with the shock. I’ve seen it ruin a few dogs. My uncle had one for his German Shepard because she jumped on guests. All it managed to do was make the dog aggressive toward guests. She just started to equate guests to the shock so she growled and avoided. I felt bad for the poor girl, she went from being excited about company, to dreading it. Positive reinforcement is the way I train dogs but there is no one way is the right way. Good luck with whatever method you choose to train and best wishes for success.
 

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Not much to add just to say be careful with the shock. I’ve seen it ruin a few dogs. My uncle had one for his German Shepard because she jumped on guests. All it managed to do was make the dog aggressive toward guests. She just started to equate guests to the shock so she growled and avoided. I felt bad for the poor girl, she went from being excited about company, to dreading it. Positive reinforcement is the way I train dogs but there is no one way is the right way. Good luck with whatever method you choose to train and best wishes for success.
^^^ this^^^
Thats why we use an escalation method
Beep, vibrate and shock as last ditch effort should we ever need to for safety sake.
 

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^^^ this^^^
Thats why we use an escalation method
Beep, vibrate and shock as last ditch effort should we ever need to for safety sake.
I couldn’t agree more, with my uncle’s dog it was 20+ years ago and the first time I’d even heard of a shock collar so I’m not sure if it even had a beep or vibrate option. I’m glad they have that now and I hope every shock collar comes with those options. Often we are trying to correct a dog that is overly anxious or just scared, these being some of the hardest dogs to work with, and a shock would just make things worse. These have been my experiences anyway but I’m not an expert, just always had dogs.
 

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I couldn’t agree more, with my uncle’s dog it was 20+ years ago and the first time I’d even heard of a shock collar so I’m not sure if it even had a beep or vibrate option. I’m glad they have that now and I hope every shock collar comes with those options. Often we are trying to correct a dog that is overly anxious or just scared, these being some of the hardest dogs to work with, and a shock would just make things worse. These have been my experiences anyway but I’m not an expert, just always had dogs.
The other cool things that's changed is that you can adjust the intensity..
It goes from an annoying pulse to "piss your pants"
 

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Yeah, the collar we tried beeped, vibrated and had different shock levels. Only tried that option once and decided I just couldn't, so I took the thing off of her and nearly cried. Her, she acted like her goofy self.
 

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Yeah, the collar we tried beeped, vibrated and had different shock levels. Only tried that option once and decided I just couldn't, so I took the thing off of her and nearly cried. Her, she acted like her goofy self.
I'm really thankful we haven't had to shock her. BUT- If she runs in the street and a car is coming, I'm shocking her. Honestly, that's our primary reason for even having that setting turned above the minimum.
 

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wow, lots of HELPFULL posts ! thanx everyone. exactly the input i was looking for.

Bob, and the other "wise achers", you guys are kill'n me :giggle::giggle::giggle:. good laughs.

now. its not for me. and, i don't have a dog. its for my neighbor. she has a 1 1/2 y/o boxer, its a fairly large dog. he is a real nice guy.
so much so that he loves to jump on everyone ! and he hurts them when he does it. he was trained, but it wasn't kept up on= waist of $1500.
the collor would be to deter him from jumping on people.
 

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wow, lots of HELPFULL posts ! thanx everyone. exactly the input i was looking for.

Bob, and the other "wise achers", you guys are kill'n me :giggle::giggle::giggle:. good laughs.

now. its not for me. and, i don't have a dog. its for my neighbor. she has a 1 1/2 y/o boxer, its a fairly large dog. he is a real nice guy.
so much so that he loves to jump on everyone ! and he hurts them when he does it. he was trained, but it wasn't kept up on= waist of $1500.
the collor would be to deter him from jumping on people.
I love boxers they are goofballs. If she don’t want him I’ll take him. I babysat for my neighbor who had a boxer for about six years. He passed almost two years ago but he loved sitting in laps. I loved it he was 80 pounds and thought he was a lapdog. He knew whose lap he could get on though so it wasn’t a problem. He was much gentler with women and older people so it worked. I miss him a ton and have wanted a boxer since he passed. I miss the personality, but my girl is fun too. Just not the same, my girl can’t read so I feel safe writing this. I always keep my dogs kinda dumb so I can write whatever I want about them. Lol nah but my pup is great just want a second dog, a boxer
 

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I love boxers they are goofballs. If she don’t want him I’ll take him. I babysat for my neighbor who had a boxer for about six years. He passed almost two years ago but he loved sitting in laps. I loved it he was 80 pounds and thought he was a lapdog. He knew whose lap he could get on though so it wasn’t a problem. He was much gentler with women and older people so it worked. I miss him a ton and have wanted a boxer since he passed. I miss the personality, but my girl is fun too. Just not the same, my girl can’t read so I feel safe writing this. I always keep my dogs kinda dumb so I can write whatever I want about them. Lol nah but my pup is great just want a second dog, a boxer
I have a 98 pound lap dog, I know what you mean.

Friend of mine used to have a boxer. I loved that girl, too. Such a sweet, sweet girl.
 

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