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Michigan first state to ban flavored ecigs

Rhianne

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Add a mile marker there trucker. I might come find you and steal any butts you got left with any hint of a draw on them. I'll lug you out of the truck too between coughing fits, find some old burlap and a grave splitter, make a hole and roll you in. I'll put up a cross out of sticks and string, might even babble a few words, kick some dust.

No, you take the old butts, break them open and roll a new one!!


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ajvapes

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:giggle: So, am I on your delivery route?


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Liquid barn sells Premixed base, 500 ml for 8.99 or w/ nic. Flavor shots,OOps sorry cupcake icing flavoring. Hopefully some of the commercial brands will offer flavor shots, cheaper to ship and no nic. If they ban ingredients we will have to form a cupcake test kitchen co-op....Delaware LLC of course,....same ingredients available as baking supplies.:devil::devil::devil::blech::blech::blech::blech:
 

MyMagicMist

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No, you take the old butts, break them open and roll a new one!!

Now, you done made it so he'll come back and haunt me. "You f---er! Steal my good smokes after I'm dead! That's the lowest of lows, you're getting haunted. I ought to put a ghost boot up your ass."

You're right though, scrounge them all up and roll 'em from the left overs. Could be worse, could be smoking coke ash out of a forge. That though would likely still be cleaner than cigarettes.

Really? Well, ... lemme think on it.
 

Mykreign

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From a Michigan representative

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1123272554727564&id=140379089683587

Today I introduced a new bill to eliminate the governor’s ban on e-cigarettes.
I am getting frustrated with the governor’s double-speak. First she said she was going to ban flavored e-cigarettes immediately, then after intense public pressure, she decided her administration would take two months to reevaluate. Unfortunately, New York has announced it will implement a similar ban. In a rush to be the first state in the nation to implement this stupid policy, the governor has changed her mind once again, and ordered all businesses to destroy millions of dollars in merchandise within 14 days.
The Michigan Department of Health and Human Services today accelerated its emergency rules banning flavored vaping products by ordering all retailors to empty their supply of them in 14 days.
The governor’s flavored vaping ban will prohibit the sale of flavored e-cigarette products to adults. The ban does not include tobacco-flavored products.
The emergency rules also outline punishments for those who fail to abide by the ban. A violations of the flavored vaping ban is a misdemeanor punishable up to six months in jail and/or a $200 fine.
The health director admitted to me in a House Oversight Committee hearing last week that she had no idea 80 percent of adult e-cigarette users use flavored nicotine before they announced the flavor ban.
The majority of adults who use e-cigarettes vape a flavor other than tobacco. This ban is an overreach that will potentially make criminals out of adults who are trying to use a safer alternative to kick the habit of traditional tobacco cigarettes. This will undoubtedly create a black market for these products which could be even more dangerous to public health.
The United Kingdom has determined e-cigarettes are 95 percent less harmful than traditional tobacco cigarettes.
In addition to limiting the governor’s authority, my legislation, House Bill 4996, will also prohibit the federal government from banning e-cigarettes.
I don’t care if the executive is a Republican or Democrat nor a governor or president. Bad public policies implemented without input from lawmakers And the public should never be ignored. I urge my colleagues from both sides of the aisle to look at all the facts before we rush to judgement and put thousands of Michiganders out of work and force thousands more back to smoking combustible cigarettes.

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gsmit1

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easy for me to say, but it might actually be an effective strategy for everybody to simply ignore it entirely and let them deal with the logistics and publicity of prosecuting thousands of businesses.
 

MyMagicMist

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Always best when they infight and nothing gets passed at all.. Unfortunately they all survive to eventually pass some sorta' stupidity.

Careful now. Gird those words a little. Someone, or some algorithm might think you're "radicalized", or making "threats". Wave to our friends at NSA, er Google. :)
 

MyMagicMist

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easy for me to say, but it might actually be an effective strategy for everybody to simply ignore it entirely and let them deal with the logistics and publicity of prosecuting thousands of businesses.

Yeah can imagine the deafening; "Going to arrest us all?" Imagining the punitive damage cases sucking away tax dollars from government employees too, seems rather ... liberating in a sense. Wow! The government could fold up out of bankruptcy. I don't think they could raise the debt ceiling high or fast enough. *Nods in agreement, decides to ignore the government as it seems they are ignoring vapers, at least until they realize vapers can sue back to defend vaping.*
 
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