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Wisconsin brothers charged with running massive drug operation that made THC vaping cartridges

SteveS45

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So I do not see any Murder Charges with all the deaths attributed to this kind of shit. Think they will examine the cartridges that they confiscated? They know it has THC but does it have Oils or Vitamin E Oil?
 
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SteveS45 said:
So I do not see any Murder Charges with all the deaths attributed to this kind of shit. Think they will examine the cartridges that they confiscated? They know it has THC but does it have Oils or Vitamin E Oil?
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Testing is either not being done on the victims, or the results suppressed, especially for the young ones. The doctor from Boston made that very important point crystal clear.

If it isn't readily known that THC was found in their bodies, then all vaping can remain a potential culprit and they need to have that be the case in order to portray all vaping products as suspect.

Once you realize that this whole thing has absolutely nothing to do with public health, at least for the state and federal agencies involved, it makes perfect sense.

They need to have it set in the public consciousness that "VAPING" is the issue here. That's why pleading with them about how many shops will close, livelihoods lost and businesses destroyed plays right into their hands. They WANT that to happen.

So folks like this guy from Michigan testifying about how his vape business will go under are inadvertently giving them exactly what they want. The politicians are elbowing themselves under the table and whispering to each other:
Did ya hear that, did ya hear that!? This will put this man and dozens like him outta business! Excellent!
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"Thank you very much for coming sir. We appreciate your time and will certainly consider what you've said with all due gravity" (wink wink)
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As they are even more persuaded than ever that these bans should go forward.
 
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gsmit1 said:
Testing is either not being done on the victims, or the results suppressed, especially for the young ones. The doctor from Boston made that very important point crystal clear.
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Is this your opinion or do you have links to FACTS? My post was more a question than an opinion or statement of fact.
 
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SteveS45 said:
Is this your opinion or do you have links to FACTS? My post was more a question than an opinion or statement of fact.
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Watch the video of the interview with the doctor in the original post above. He is in a much better position to know than we are and what he says fits precisely in with the rest of this ongoing saga. I criticized the way the interview was produced in another thread, but the info is excellent.
 
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gsmit1 said:
Watch the video of the interview with the doctor in the original post above. He is in a much better position to know than we are and what he says fits precisely in with the rest of this ongoing saga. I criticized the way the interview was produced in another thread, but the info excellent.
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An interview or Video doesn't answer my question. I want to know if the shit they confiscated was tested. That should take a few days at least to be done properly by a certified laboratory.
 
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Also Steve, I was using my response to you to make a broader point more than addressing you directly.
 
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SteveS45 said:
An interview or Video doesn't answer my question. I want to know if the shit they confiscated was tested. That should take a few days at least to be done properly by i certified laboratory.
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My point was that no matter what was in what they confiscated, unless it's reported as also being in the victims, what difference does it make?
 
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gsmit1 said:
My point was that no matter what was in what they confiscated, unless it's reported as also being in the victims, what difference does it to make?
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It makes a big difference because they can track where the shit was shipped to and correlate this with the information on the deaths. With a proper true investigation these guys could be charged with Murder or Conspiracy to commit murder by manufacturing and selling something to vape that will kill people.
 
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SteveS45 said:
It makes a big difference because they can track where the shit was shipped to and correlate this with the information on the deaths. With a proper true investigation these guys could be charged with Murder or Conspiracy to commit murder by manufacturing and selling something to vape that will kill people.
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Why would they do that? Because it's the right thing to do? These blood sucking political vampires don't do anything because it's the right thing to do.

If the CDC is willing to omit the very fact that mainstream nicotine vape products were not involved in the first place, why should anybody believe that they or their cohorts would conduct and report on an investigation on purpose that would expose that fact?
 
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gsmit1 said:
Why would they do that?
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Why do you continue to tag me and fucking argue? I asked a fucking question and not of you but you are trying to prove something to me or I have no fucking idea why you keep going. You post info from different threads I should view? WTF?
 
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Why do you continue to tag me and fucking argue? I asked a fucking question and not of you but you are trying to prove something to me or I have no fucking idea why you keep going. You post info from different threads I should view? WTF?
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Well, unless I misunderstood you, which is possible, it sounded like you were saying that tying these illicit products to some of these heath disasters would be the result of a proper investigation. If that's what you're saying, I agree.

My response was questioning why they would be interested in having the public find out that this was the case? They will almost certainly investigate, almost certainly find out that operations like this one are (largely) behind this outbreak and then find a way to prevent that fact from making it's way into the public consciousness. Like they did by not reporting the results of proper testing on the victims in the first place.
 
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Well, unless I misunderstood you, which is possible, it sounded like you were saying that tying these illicit products to some of these heath disasters would be the result of a proper investigation. If that's what you're saying, I agree.
My response was questioning why they would be interested in having the public find out that this was the case. Thye will almost certainly investigate, almost certainly find out that operations like this one are behind the outbreak and then find a way to prtevent that fact from making it's way into the public consciousness. Like they did by not reporting the results of proper testing on the victims in the first place.
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I posted a freaking question which I would like an answer to but why must you continue to tag me like you might change how I think or fell about this. Unless you can answer my fucking question stop quoting me~! Enough with your BS already. I do not care how you explain how you misrepresented what you wanted to do unless you answer my fucking questions then STOP.
 
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Why ya gotta yell at me man? :) We're on the same side here.

I promise I am doing my best to address what you are saying. Or asking.

Gotta go for a while. Be back later.
 
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SteveS45 said:
I am not yelling, do you see capitals? I am not fucking EJ...................
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If they do proper investigation they would have confiscated everything Will they test it, I assume that is the proper thing to do. Does a sample of the carts that are in question, someone must. It has been reported that V E acetate has been found in some bootleg carts. Is every one working together, ? At this point no one is saying. Even FOIA will not get info till the investigation is complete.
 
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