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Why stacked tubes?
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Because...clouds bro. Lol.
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I go stacked because it’s just one more enjoyable way I can vape.
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Ok, just completely ignore the fact that they have double the voltage output. People only buy them for looks. Just like people only buy dual battery boxes because they like the looks of bigger boxes. Are you high? You’re thinking form, but completely forgot function? Must be high.
Ok, just completely ignore the fact that they have double the voltage output. People only buy them for looks. Just like people only buy dual battery boxes because they like the looks of bigger boxes. Are you high? You’re thinking form, but completely forgot function? Must be high.
No. The question was asked before my pain meds kicked in. Form, Function whatever. I'm asking because I don'y know. Never used one, nor owned one.
Haha, I hear you. I don’t have one, but would like to. I really like tube mechs and having one that has double (almost anyway) the voltage output opens up a whole new set of builds you can run. And a bunch of us are hobbyists, so also they’re a different kind of toy to fiddle with. Fixed voltage puts you in a box, so having another box to play in..... well, you get it.
Stacked tubes allow you to run more intricate builds without the need of regulation.
They also double as good conversation pieces.
And of course, the form factor. It's a tube. Not everyone likes the clunkiness of boxes / series mods. Just like not everyone likes mosfets in their mods.
I had a stacked tube. Gave it away. Then again, I could convert my rig v3 into a stacked tube of I wanted. They sell the add-on tube to do so. I doubt I'll need it, but hey, never know, right?
Obviously, care needs to be taken with batteries and those batteries should be married as well.
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They also double as good conversation pieces.
And of course, the form factor. It's a tube. Not everyone likes the clunkiness of boxes / series mods. Just like not everyone likes mosfets in their mods.
I had a stacked tube. Gave it away. Then again, I could convert my rig v3 into a stacked tube of I wanted. They sell the add-on tube to do so. I doubt I'll need it, but hey, never know, right?
Obviously, care needs to be taken with batteries and those batteries should be married as well.
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A stack gives you double the voltage (but the same amperage) as a single and allows you to send some serious power to your coils safely. Even though you still have the same available current as a single, the additional voltage lets you pull less of it for the same wattage.
So for instance I can say, put a .3 build on one and get roughly 190 or 200 watts while still only pulling 26 or 27 amps from the batteries.
Why would anybody want to do that? Well, if you enjoy a "warmer" vape, this is a great way to get one. You can also build higher of course and bring that heat down as you please.
My Vaporz Could XXX has a .3 build on it and with a pair of 2070C or 20S it is an absolute monster.
It's perfectly understandable why many folks wouldn't want that and it's certainly not the only thing I vape, but it is fantastic when looking to REALLY fill your lungs up.
Oh yeah. No, they are not too portable
So for instance I can say, put a .3 build on one and get roughly 190 or 200 watts while still only pulling 26 or 27 amps from the batteries.
Why would anybody want to do that? Well, if you enjoy a "warmer" vape, this is a great way to get one. You can also build higher of course and bring that heat down as you please.
My Vaporz Could XXX has a .3 build on it and with a pair of 2070C or 20S it is an absolute monster.
It's perfectly understandable why many folks wouldn't want that and it's certainly not the only thing I vape, but it is fantastic when looking to REALLY fill your lungs up.
Oh yeah. No, they are not too portable
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find the right one Don and they are a great vape especially with a 30mm dripper on top that can fit in longer coils and has a big ass juice well for cloud chucking
Think finding one with a switch that’s responsive enough for you is important though due to the extra top weight of the damn thing
I wouldn’t use one away from home though unless I’m walking that neighbourhood Bigrick was referring to
Think finding one with a switch that’s responsive enough for you is important though due to the extra top weight of the damn thing
I wouldn’t use one away from home though unless I’m walking that neighbourhood Bigrick was referring to
Can you elaborate? Maybe I "need" one after all.
How do you explain the difference to somebody between a mech and a reg both setup to run at a similar wattage? It's tough to put into words, but there IS one. Same thing here. In the totally objective realm though, a good tube will generally have less voltage drop than a good box and so will hit harder.Can you elaborate? Maybe I "need" one after all.
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Funny you should use that analogy. I was just thinking about that today and wasn't sure how to verbalize it either. Fair enough. Guess I'll have to try it for myself. Just can't get over the "phallacy" of it, if you get my drift.
It doesn't seem like it should be true, but it is
I can't count the number of mech users I've read who have said either that they didn't understand until they tried their first mech or until they tried their first reg after having used mechs from the beginning.
I love my regulated devices and even after getting into mechs, I do not find them deficient even. BUT, there is something about the "purity" of a mechanical vape that regs just can't duplicate.
The same general thing applies to series tubes. There's something about that raw horsepower.
I agree, my Noisy Cricket was a different vape from my stacked Bonza. Seemed the NC fired up at max intensity while the Bonza takes a sec.
With the same build?
Yep.
That doesn't make any sense
The NC is known to be in the higher end of vd for a box. The Bonza is not the very hardest hitting tube ever (but pretty good), but has to hit harder than a NC.
I'm not trying to give you a hard time. I'm just trying to understand.
I’m surprised as well but the NC hisses and crackles start to finish while the Bonza runs like a carb engine.That doesn't make any sense
The NC is known to be in the higher end of vd for a box. The Bonza is not the very hardest hitting tube ever (but pretty good), but has to hit harder than a NC.
I'm not trying to give you a hard time. I'm just trying to understand.
I’ll add I’m referring to the original NC not the 2.
Maybe the NC has been cleaner when you noticed this? The threads and contacts in a tube have to be squeaky clean to get the best out of them. Even my authentic Vindicator and XXX show a distinct difference after cleaning.
I keep my gear in good shapes...tubes included. Let’s face the Bonza hits like a toddler regardless of the setup lol. How can there be so much voltage drop in the NC?
Isn't that a 20650 setup though?
Yes it is. I don't have any married 21700s so I'd want new batteries anyway. *Edit*: Mooch seemed to like the LG HG6 and Sanyo.
I like the quality of the tube, the constant contact switch, no seam for stacking. Bogan really liked the mod and felt the quality made up for the lack of 21700 size.
But that's why I'm asking. Having seen many on here.
I have both the Baphomet brass and the Evil Twin brass. I love these mechs, and also the Unholy V2 that comes included with them, which is a 26mm, is very high on my list of top performing flavor chasing RDAs... I use 29g Ni80 aliens in it at 0.28 ohms with a pair of Samsung 20S batteries and that really brings out the flavor depth when using heavy custard style juices or some cream-based fruity ones like Crimson by Illusions, for example. Granted, there is no single coil option with this RDA, but I don't consider that a con because I also own three Deathwish Modz 26mm Deathtrap V2 RDAs, they sit flush on these mods, they look badass on them. In fact all my single coil atomizers (I own 10 of 'em in total) are RDAs by Deathwish Modz... 3× 30mm Deathtrap, 3× 24mm Deathtrap, 3× 26mm Deathtrap V2, 1× 30mm Deathtrap V2. Throw a serious big tasty coil in any one of these ones and they won't let you down on flavor performance. Ever.
The LG HG6 (20650) batteries aren't really necessary, at least IMO they are just a side option so I have decided simply to skip them, as they don't hit nearly as hard as the Samsung 20S. That plus the fact the Samsung 20S in a series setup lasts a fairly long time TBH, albeit not as long as some other setups of course... a whole lot longer than a 0.08 ohms build on a single Samsung 30T nonetheless.
Thanks for the info. Good to hear the 20s's work that well. Makes it even more attractive.
As far as I can tell the only difference between the Baphomet, Evil Twin and the Ripper is the engraving, right?
That's right, also the engraving on the RDA also is different with each one of these mods. Same as with all the different variations of the Barebones Kit (Ghost Ship, Big Slug, Plague Doctor, Wicked Witch).
I didn't realize it could take 18650s. Yes, a pair of 20S in series will not be deficient.
It comes with a white plastic adapter piece that has a stainless steel contact in the middle, and that goes between the two 18650s. The small height difference resulting from this contact is compensated by using the special key to adjust the constant contact part of the firing switch, and, the RDA is recessed about 1mm or so into the tube after correctly adjusting the hybrid disc. This however doesn't cause any scratch marks on the barrel of the RDA. The quality of the machining, the tolerances, the feel and the fairly short length of the button throw, all are totally sweet. No misfires and no partial misfires of any kind. And no crunchy button. Very very hard hitting mech. Severely underrated by many IMO. Also, these people fully understand my philosophy when it comes to the logical relationship between hot vapes and designing suitable, functional, drip tips.
Damn dude those are beautiful
Why not 8.4v of love
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Then you find out the one to the right is pure silver
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Wish I hadn't seen this thread, it cost me. But I'm convinced now. This isn't the same as my Dotbox para/series mod. It's an absolute beast. I'm running a much lower build (0.31) but you're right, @gsmit1 it's different. I went ahead and got the Deathwish Modz Baphomet in SS and I'm really impressed with the build quality and vape. Holy sh!t.
And yes, I know, the SS has a bit of a voltage drop compared to the brass or copper. But somehow, about 2-3 seconds into a vape with 20s batteries it really doesn't matter. I don't need any more performance.
And yes, I know, the SS has a bit of a voltage drop compared to the brass or copper. But somehow, about 2-3 seconds into a vape with 20s batteries it really doesn't matter. I don't need any more performance.
Oh yessir! A pair of 20S will open your eyeballs LOL! At .3 you're rockin.
I don't want to say that a tube stack is in a different class, but a different category from any other setup. When you're looking for that rocket engine vape, nothing else quite does it like a stack.
I don't want to say that a tube stack is in a different class, but a different category from any other setup. When you're looking for that rocket engine vape, nothing else quite does it like a stack.
Thanks. I'm happy with it.
I just love my stacked tubes
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Very nice! What mech is it?
It looks like the MRN MISSLE v2. I know this because I got one last week. Like mine it’s aluminum with brass threaded inserts. Mine is #010