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Looking for a 21700 mech with many features

rottev

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Hi, been using a broadside for my daily for over the last year, Mainly I use it with single coil RDA / RTA, 24mm but It has become too much to travel with 4 18650 a day, im looking for an upgrade to both battery life and is possible a harder hit.
I would love to find a 21700 mech that supports:
* 510 non hybrid top cap (can have an option to switch top caps)
* top venting (I prefer to run my positive up if possible)
* delrin or other non conductive sleeve in the inside of the tube.
* constant contact switch (magnetic if possible)
* lockable switch ( I pocket my mod a lot and having to take out batteries is a pain)

I have been looking for a while for a mech with these features for months now and haven't found a single one that ticks all the boxes so i would appreciate any help ing finding one

Thanks,
 

Coval51

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Only problem you're going to have is "* 510 non hybrid top cap (can have an option to switch top caps)". That just does not exist anymore. The lockable switch is something that seems to be rapidly disappearing from mechs but most people who use mechs don't carry them in their pockets as the possibilty of blowing your private parts up is very real. If you pick up a $2.00 flashlight holder that you can wear on your belt (you can buy them everywhere...Walmart, Home Depot, Lowes) and carry the mod in that, you won't have to worry about the lock. Or blowing up your junk downstairs LOL. That's a big list and I'm a big user of mechs and I really don't know of any that'll hit all of your checkpoints.
 

rottev

Member For 2 Years
Thank you for your reply,
I agree that hon hybrid top caps are a thing of the past, only 21700 i know of that has it is the nato, however for mechs that have a threaded top cap, it shouldn't be too hard to release one with a higher profile and a floating 510 (done correctly this could greatly reduce the risk of a 510 not protruding enough and hard shorting), though there will be a higher voltage drop, at least there will be some choice.

Regarding the locking feature, though I usually don't just carry the mod in my pocket all day, there are time when moving about I want to pocket it to free up both my hands, a locking feature would make me feel much safer in those five minutes.

Do you have any recommendation for the above list without the non hybrid but with the rest of the features?
Thanks.
 

BoomStick

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What you want doesn’t exist and nobody is gonna make one. Good luck. Not many people want 510 pins, lock rings and magnets. Terrible features in my opinion.
 

rottev

Member For 2 Years
What you want doesn’t exist and nobody is gonna make one. Good luck. Not many people want 510 pins, lock rings and magnets. Terrible features in my opinion.

Thanks for your response,
I really don't want to get into arguments in online forums (seems silly to me) though I value your opinion, mine and others I personally know differs from . yours, I never stated a lock ring, just a lockable button (have a look at something like the sub ohm innovations sub zero x button), and one of the top selling mechs once upon a time was the broadside & admiral, both with 510 pins, so your points are not really valid.

Don't know if you ever had a battery go thermal runaway on you or not, but having seen it happen to to a friend (and before you play all high and mighty about the fact he didn't know what he was doing, his 510 in the rda took a dump on him because of a production fault and went up with the positive pole) just having a floating or adjustable 510 in the mech would have avoided that. So for some people that is reason enough to prefer a 510.

Guess I will just have to mill and make a top cap with a 510 for myself all that remains is a mech with a threaded top cap 21700 and lockable switch (perfer magnetic though other options are ok too), any suggestions?
 

marter

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Hi, been using a broadside for my daily for over the last year, Mainly I use it with single coil RDA / RTA, 24mm but It has become too much to travel with 4 18650 a day, im looking for an upgrade to both battery life and is possible a harder hit.
I would love to find a 21700 mech that supports:
* 510 non hybrid top cap (can have an option to switch top caps)
* top venting (I prefer to run my positive up if possible)
* delrin or other non conductive sleeve in the inside of the tube.
* constant contact switch (magnetic if possible)
* lockable switch ( I pocket my mod a lot and having to take out batteries is a pain)

I have been looking for a while for a mech with these features for months now and haven't found a single one that ticks all the boxes so i would appreciate any help ing finding one

Thanks,
Like the previous replies, that's a tall order. Have you looked at the SubOhm Innovations SZX Competition tube mechs? They're out of business now but probably still around; I've got a couple I'm not using much. They tick quite a few of your boxes.

* So with the SOI Competition X RDA it has a direct connection without a pin but the mech has an adapter cap to use if you want to use an RDA with a 510 pin.
* It has a delrin sleeve.
* And it has a locking switch which I really like; just pull it down and a quarter twist to lock or unlock.
* But I place my battery positive down
* And it's not a constant contact switch; at least I don't think it is. I've never taken it apart, since it would void the warranty (which probably doesn't matter since they're not around anymore).

Anyway, you might take a look at that.
 

BoomStick

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Thanks for your response,
I really don't want to get into arguments in online forums (seems silly to me) though I value your opinion, mine and others I personally know differs from . yours, I never stated a lock ring, just a lockable button (have a look at something like the sub ohm innovations sub zero x button), and one of the top selling mechs once upon a time was the broadside & admiral, both with 510 pins, so your points are not really valid.

Don't know if you ever had a battery go thermal runaway on you or not, but having seen it happen to to a friend (and before you play all high and mighty about the fact he didn't know what he was doing, his 510 in the rda took a dump on him because of a production fault and went up with the positive pole) just having a floating or adjustable 510 in the mech would have avoided that. So for some people that is reason enough to prefer a 510.

Guess I will just have to mill and make a top cap with a 510 for myself all that remains is a mech with a threaded top cap 21700 and lockable switch (perfer magnetic though other options are ok too), any suggestions?
Wow. Thought we were talking about something that takes 21700’s, not old stuff. No new stuff has what you want because you want old features. Good luck.
 

rottev

Member For 2 Years
Wow. Thought we were talking about something that takes 21700’s, not old stuff. No new stuff has what you want because you want old features. Good luck.
Thanks, you are correct that most of the things I mentioned are a little older, but in my eyes it doesn't make them any worse, I would take an old vett stingray over a tesla any day of the week, (or a good internal combustion engine over an electric car) maybe that's just me though :)
 

rottev

Member For 2 Years
Like the previous replies, that's a tall order. Have you looked at the SubOhm Innovations SZX Competition tube mechs? They're out of business now but probably still around; I've got a couple I'm not using much. They tick quite a few of your boxes.

* So with the SOI Competition X RDA it has a direct connection without a pin but the mech has an adapter cap to use if you want to use an RDA with a 510 pin.
* It has a delrin sleeve.
* And it has a locking switch which I really like; just pull it down and a quarter twist to lock or unlock.
* But I place my battery positive down
* And it's not a constant contact switch; at least I don't think it is. I've never taken it apart, since it would void the warranty (which probably doesn't matter since they're not around anymore).

Anyway, you might take a look at that.
Thanks for your response, I have considered that mech, though I really want something that will give me more battery life hence the 21700,
If there was a 21700 version of that or the broadside, that's probably what I would want, though they both run positive down which I prefer not to run.
 

marter

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Thanks for your response, I have considered that mech, though I really want something that will give me more battery life hence the 21700,
If there was a 21700 version of that or the broadside, that's probably what I would want, though they both run positive down which I prefer not to run.
Understood; like I said I forgot what you said in the title and focused more on the post.

When SOI had their fire sale everyone thought they were retooling and preparing for a 21700 version of their mods, but that obviously wasn't the case.
 

BoomStick

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Thanks, you are correct that most of the things I mentioned are a little older, but in my eyes it doesn't make them any worse, I would take an old vett stingray over a tesla any day of the week, (or a good internal combustion engine over an electric car) maybe that's just me though :)
Ok smart guy. But you’re trying to buy a new vette with a new motor and a bunch of other old parts. No dealership sells those cause nobody makes that. Good luck.
 

rottev

Member For 2 Years
Ok smart guy. But you’re trying to buy a new vette with a new motor and a bunch of other old parts. No dealership sells those cause nobody makes that. Good luck.
Again thank you, and this time also thank you for the compliment even though i have a feeling you did not intend it to be one... Just can't win with you can I? have you not seen all the projects that take muscle cars are renew them? yes they are expensive but tell me you would want one?
What companies make don't change what I like or want. I understand there currently isn't an option to just buy what i'm looking for which is a shame, so removed the most problematic part which is the 510 pinned top cap, as long as it has a threaded top cap I can make my own, I would very much appreciate if you had any suggestions.

Also the motor in your example is bought separately since it's technically the battery, all I want is the room to place in the new motor, and that at least in the car world has been done to death, LS swap galore.

I understand what I mentioned don't appeal to you, but there is no need to assume it's "wrong", "junk", "old" or "terrible features", since this is a subjective thing.
 

BoomStick

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“In my opinion” is a subjective statement. Yes. Never said it wasn’t. You’re trying to sound smart, but I’m not buying it as you either can’t pay attention or you’re trying to bend shit to fit your goal. Good luck with that and good luck finding something that doesn’t exist.
 

Carambrda

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The closest to what you are looking for IMO would be the Saga mod by Vaperz Cloud, as running two 21700 batteries in series typically will annihilate the need to carry around a case of spare batteries with you, and, the mech hits waa-aaaa-aaaaaaay harder than a single battery mech because it is a series mech thereby it gives you 8.2 volts instead of giving only 4.2 volts, it does have an adjustable 510 pin, constant contact, and a non conductive surface on the inside of the battery compartment. But it doesn't have a locking feature, it doesn't use magnets, and it doesn't have top venting, BUT... a highly reliable highly durable quality spring (i.e., the VC Tech spring) in cohort with a seriously well engineered bottom venting battery door does get the job done more than perfectly fine IMO, and, also IMO, accidental button presses shouldn't be a problem because the button sits flush and is small enough, and the spring that comes installed in it by factory default is firm enough so TBH probably you shouldn't worry excepting only maybe after you have chosen to install the softer spring that also comes included with the mod─but personally I would not.

That said, I pocket my mechs with the battery stil inside pretty much all the time... just make sure that the mech in question has a firm enough button throw with a button that either sits flush or is somewhat recessed, and also make sure to not keep any hard objects travelling around inside the same pocket that might get squeezed against the button, whilst at the same time also making sure to keep any and all dust out, i.e. by wrapping a plastic food storage (deep freeze) bag, upside down, around the entire setup after you thoroughly blow on the coils a few times to completely cool them down first so that all of the flavor can be preserved.
 

rottev

Member For 2 Years
“In my opinion” is a subjective statement. Yes. Never said it wasn’t. You’re trying to sound smart, but I’m not buying it as you either can’t pay attention or you’re trying to bend shit to fit your goal. Good luck with that and good luck finding something that doesn’t exist.

I don't doubt your knowledge in the mech world, truth be told I only wish you put as much effort into helping find something close to what i'm looking for as you did in bashing how I would prefer to vape.

I really couldn't care less what your thoughts are about my or anyone else's intelligence, I would lie to ask you again to keep it civilized, but I get the feeling you won't.

Good luck, good day and may all your vapes be awesome.
 
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rottev

Member For 2 Years
The closest to what you are looking for IMO would be the Saga mod by Vaperz Cloud, as running two 21700 batteries in series typically will annihilate the need to carry around a case of spare batteries with you, and, the mech hits waa-aaaa-aaaaaaay harder than a single battery mech because it is a series mech thereby it gives you 8.2 volts instead of giving only 4.2 volts, it does have an adjustable 510 pin, constant contact, and a non conductive surface on the inside of the battery compartment. But it doesn't have a locking feature, it doesn't use magnets, and it doesn't have top venting, BUT... a highly reliable highly durable quality spring (i.e., the VC Tech spring) in cohort with a seriously well engineered bottom venting battery door does get the job done more than perfectly fine IMO, and, also IMO, accidental button presses shouldn't be a problem because the button sits flush and is small enough, and the spring that comes installed in it by factory default is firm enough so TBH probably you shouldn't worry excepting only maybe after you have chosen to install the softer spring that also comes included with the mod─but personally I would not.

That said, I pocket my mechs with the battery stil inside pretty much all the time... just make sure that the mech in question has a firm enough button throw with a button that either sits flush or is somewhat recessed, and also make sure to not keep any hard objects travelling around inside the same pocket that might get squeezed against the button, whilst at the same time also making sure to keep any and all dust out, i.e. by wrapping a plastic food storage (deep freeze) bag, upside down, around the entire setup after you thoroughly blow on the coils a few times to completely cool them down first so that all of the flavor can be preserved.

Thank you for for the reply.
I will have to look into that mod, though I have never used a series mech and would definitely need different coils then the ones im running,
also when I do pocket any mod, even regulated ones I don't have anything else in that pocket and tend to take them right out as soon as I can.
 

rottev

Member For 2 Years
@Don29palms Since you are on the other thread in ECF forums you know that I decided to make the easter bunny as you call it. At the same time as short term solution just get a vindicator, though I appreciate you taking the time to comment i don't believe that these types of comments are constructive, the fact that I was looking for a little more safety in a mech (Feel free to chime in here how a mech is never safe and it's always user error) should be answered with more seriousness, in fact i think everything discussing mechs deserves better response than the ones you offered,
Anyway, not here to get into it, just hope next time someone wonders into a thread your in you might actually give them some of your knowledge and maybe help them, Good night...
 

Don29palms

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@Don29palms Since you are on the other thread in ECF forums you know that I decided to make the easter bunny as you call it. At the same time as short term solution just get a vindicator, though I appreciate you taking the time to comment i don't believe that these types of comments are constructive, the fact that I was looking for a little more safety in a mech (Feel free to chime in here how a mech is never safe and it's always user error) should be answered with more seriousness, in fact i think everything discussing mechs deserves better response than the ones you offered,
Anyway, not here to get into it, just hope next time someone wonders into a thread your in you might actually give them some of your knowledge and maybe help them, Good night...
Are you serious? I guess you don't know what LOL means? It was a damn joke. FOAD!
 

rottev

Member For 2 Years
Are you serious? I guess you don't know what LOL means? It was a damn joke. FOAD!
Sure, and after getting a little criticism you resort to name calling, why am I not surprised.
Never knew i could say anything anywhere and just add a LOL to it... still not funny, Guess you thought this was the bad comedians making silly jokes forum then.
 

gsmit1

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Don't ask me how, but I never saw this thread over here. Only the one on ECF.
 

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