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Copper vs stainless steel mech.

Ephraim

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I have the Kennedy stainless steel mech and RDA. The constant contact is copper and the purdruding 510 pin is copper. One reviewer said the copper mech hits harder then the stainless steel. How is that possible when both my contact ends r copper? The body shudnt matter. I thought it was a silly statement. Am I wrong?
 

DonBaldy

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I have the Kennedy stainless steel mech and RDA. The constant contact is copper and the purdruding 510 pin is copper. One reviewer said the copper mech hits harder then the stainless steel. How is that possible when both my contact ends r copper? The body shudnt matter. I thought it was a silly statement. Am I wrong?
The body of the tube is also part of the contact. Some materials conduct better than others. "hitting harder" seems to more a function of how much voltage drop there is between the mod, atty, and coil. A well made mod of one less conductive material can hit harder then one made of more conductive material if the construction is such that there is less voltage drop.

As for materiel it seems as though the most conductive are silver, copper, brass, stainless, and aluminum in that order. I'm sure gold fits in there somewhere and each metal will have varieties in their quality and purity.

Personally I'm hard pressed to tell much difference given the same atty and coil. Many are more perceptible than I. In the end, find the mod or mods that produce the vape which gets your motor running and vape it.

If any of what I've posted is incorrect I will be corrected and welcome those corrections.
 

The Cromwell

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What Don said.

Also the battery and build being used makes more difference how it hits than the body materials of a decent mech mod.
Of course some mechs are pretty crappy.
And keeping the mech contact areas clean is a BIG difference maker.
 

Ephraim

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The body of the tube is also part of the contact. Some materials conduct better than others. "hitting harder" seems to more a function of how much voltage drop there is between the mod, atty, and coil. A well made mod of one less conductive material can hit harder then one made of more conductive material if the construction is such that there is less voltage drop.

As for materiel it seems as though the most conductive are silver, copper, brass, stainless, and aluminum in that order. I'm sure gold fits in there somewhere and each metal will have varieties in their quality and purity.

Personally I'm hard pressed to tell much difference given the same atty and coil. Many are more perceptible than I. In the end, find the mod or mods that produce the vape which gets your motor running and vape it.

If any of what I've posted is incorrect I will be corrected and welcome those corrections.
I had a copper purge and it hit no harder then the stainless steel kennedy. I saw no difference. It must not be enough to tell. I think its in the guys head cause copper is a better conductor. I like stainless steel cause its completely maintenance free.
 

Ephraim

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What Don said.

Also the battery and build being used makes more difference how it hits than the body materials of a decent mech mod.
Of course some mechs are pretty crappy.
And keeping the mech contact areas clean is a BIG difference maker.
I use the 30 T battery. And have a .11 ohm build. It hits hard to me. I dont see any difference then the purge I had.
 

The Cromwell

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I use the 30 T battery. And have a .11 ohm build. It hits hard to me. I dont see any difference then the purge I had.
As you said I also think a lot of the harder hitting stuff if in ones head.
And perhaps is encouraged by the sales pitches of some vape 'reviewers'?
 

~Don~

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There is a difference, but how perceivable this difference is really comes down to how well the mod is made (Opinion) if all else is the same.

I'll take a stainless mod over a copper one 99% of the time... hate the penny smell on my hands... and if the mod is offered with Silver plated contacts, even better... less hassle and more vaping ;)

I mean... .11Ω on mod A hits with 3.68v and mod B hits with 3.72v you're looking at 2.69w... a lot of mods are within 8w of each other afaik... to me if Mod A is $140 and Mod B is $349 and I am looking at the 2.69w... yeah...going with mod A

And lets say that outlier mod which has the best variance of 8w and is also $350+... is $210+ worth 8w?


Now if value is of no concern and you just want the best available... then disregard the above example ;)
 

BoomStick

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The material the tube is made of makes almost zero difference in overall conductivity. Even mooch said so. Being on YouTube means nothing.
 

Ephraim

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The material the tube is made of makes almost zero difference in overall conductivity. Even mooch said so. Being on YouTube means nothing.
I just read up on Moochs post on the body of the mech. Stainless steel has the biggest drop but ur only losing 2.28 watts on a 50 amp 150 watts. No one can notice 2.28 watts. Thats impossible. So ur right. The tube doesnt make much of a difference. Ill choose the maintainance free stainless steel and 2.28 watts over the maintainance of copper any day. Ive never noticed a difference in my mech vs. another.
 
The body of the tube is also part of the contact. Some materials conduct better than others. "hitting harder" seems to more a function of how much voltage drop there is between the mod, atty, and coil. A well made mod of one less conductive material can hit harder then one made of more conductive material if the construction is such that there is less voltage drop.

As for materiel it seems as though the most conductive are silver, copper, brass, stainless, and aluminum in that order. I'm sure gold fits in there somewhere and each metal will have varieties in their quality and purity.

Personally I'm hard pressed to tell much difference given the same atty and coil. Many are more perceptible than I. In the end, find the mod or mods that produce the vape which gets your motor running and vape it.

If any of what I've posted is incorrect I will be corrected and welcome those corrections.

Just mentioning that gold would be most conductive. It used to be commonly used for all sorts of things, but is now mostly reserved for use in circuitry due to the high cost.
 

The Cromwell

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Silver is the best conductor, Copper is second, Gold is third, aluminum is 4th I think.
Gold is used in printed circuits and such because it does not oxidize and can be easially made into tiny wires.
 
Silver is the best conductor, Copper is second, Gold is third, aluminum is 4th I think.
Gold is used in printed circuits and such because it does not oxidize and can be easially made into tiny wires.

So you are correct. I was told differently in college... goes to show that google is smarter than professors.
 

gsmit1

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I am not the mech-spert around here, but one thing I have found to be undeniable, on a related note, is that maintenance really does make a difference in performance with mechanicals.

When I take one of my tubes apart and polish and clean all the threads and contact surfaces, there is a distinctly noticeable difference from before I did so. Especially if it's been a little while since the last the last time I did it.

Maybe not night and day, but an unmistakable boost for sure.
 

The Cromwell

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I am not the mech-spert around here, but one thing I have found to be undeniable, on a related note, is that maintenance really does make a difference in performance with mechanicals.

When I take one of my tubes apart and polish and clean all the threads and contact surfaces, there is a distinctly noticeable difference from before I did so. Especially if it's been a little while since the last the last time I did it.

Maybe not night and day, but an unmistakable boost for sure.
Yep even on SS mechs but especially on Brass, and copper ones.
 

dhomes

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I just read up on Moochs post on the body of the mech. Stainless steel has the biggest drop but ur only losing 2.28 watts on a 50 amp 150 watts. No one can notice 2.28 watts. Thats impossible. So ur right. The tube doesnt make much of a difference. Ill choose the maintenance free stainless steel and 2.28 watts over the maintenance of copper any day. Ive never noticed a difference in my mech vs. another.
I think to remember mooch found ~9W difference between a copper and a stainless steel dreamer. the 2.28 watts diff was for the brass (or aluminum),

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