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casketweaver

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I differ in one respect even illegal immigrant families should be kept together. detained together, accepted together or deported together.

I agree illegal immigration is illegal and should be enforced.

To an extent, I agree, but we also have to look at some of the notorious things that happen during the trip across the border. Not all the children are being brought by their immediate family.

So if they are detained together, and split up, then maybe that happened for a reason.
 

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To an extent, I agree, but we also have to look at some of the notorious things that happen during the trip across the border. Not all the children are being brought by their immediate family.

So if they are detained together, and split up, then maybe that happened for a reason.
Good point in some cases.
 

casketweaver

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Good point in some cases.

Well, I mean we COULD force DNA testings - but at what cost? More expensive to the taxpayer, sure, but peace of mind is something that we should take into consideration.

Now, if they had documents showing that they are a "family unit" IE Marriage records, birth certificates, etc... then that would make their jobs a lot easier, am I correct in asking for that stuff?
 

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Well, I mean we COULD force DNA testings - but at what cost? More expensive to the taxpayer, sure, but peace of mind is something that we should take into consideration.

Now, if they had documents showing that they are a "family unit" IE Marriage records, birth certificates, etc... then that would make their jobs a lot easier, am I correct in asking for that stuff?
agree.
Anyone coming into a country should have papers with them.
 

casketweaver

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agree.
Anyone coming into a country should have papers with them.
And see that is the first step in becoming a legal US citizen.

But all in all, if we just look at it from safety sake, we can't always believe that everything that these people are trying to tell us is factual. So we have to air on the side of caution. I don't want families being split up anymore than the next person. but I also don't want to know that we let a group of people slip through the cracks with kids that didn't belong to them, just to find out later that those same children are being abused and traded off the sex slaves or being used to run drugs between countries. Or maybe even being used as a bargaining chip.

I don't want to know that kind of stuff I don't want to see that kind of stuff I don't even want to hear about that kind of stuff as a parent myself if there were to be any harm done to my child I would lose my s***.

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casketweaver

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According to Biden though, if he had it his way, I'm sure, he'd tell me to buy a shotgun! But Uncle Joe, I have some of those already... one of them is even Semi-Auto!

Progressives: As long as it doesn't fire in full-auto...
Me: *Face Palms* But It's a SEMI-AUTO... meaning ... nevermind...
 

Tpat591

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Well, I mean we COULD force DNA testings - but at what cost? More expensive to the taxpayer, sure, but peace of mind is something that we should take into consideration.

Now, if they had documents showing that they are a "family unit" IE Marriage records, birth certificates, etc... then that would make their jobs a lot easier, am I correct in asking for that stuff?
Shouldn't be a cost to taxpayers, should be a billable cost to the illegal alien, along with food, all medical, and anything else including lodging, welfare, etc that must be paid back in full before citizenship applications are granted.
 
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PoppaVic

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Why do you think I keep posting articles on it? It is such a ridiculous ruling, but at least the door is open for Barr to get involved & possibly straighten it out.
Personally, I think their BS reply is just that - prevarication-BS. If a nation, let alone a state, let alone a city, or a county - can't tell who the hell is an illegal, who is a property-owner, who lives there, who pays taxes, who is Just Passing Thru/tourist/commute, etc - they have serious issues.

This makes me wonder if we need a Federal ID - yes, we used to use a SSN for that and they fucked that ALL UP. I'll give yah my state DL and SSN for a new card that belongs only to the feds, and applies to these other cases.

NM, I stopped voting years ago - now, I've no longer interest in it.
 

PoppaVic

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Well, I mean we COULD force DNA testings - but at what cost? More expensive to the taxpayer, sure, but peace of mind is something that we should take into consideration.

Now, if they had documents showing that they are a "family unit" IE Marriage records, birth certificates, etc... then that would make their jobs a lot easier, am I correct in asking for that stuff?
At this point, why the hell would I trust magic-documents from illegals? These ain't tourists that have been robbed - and said tourists would seek their ambassador/consul.

They broke the law to infiltrate, and we already separate parents from children when they are citizens and guilty or charged with crimes. Apparently, all these illegals don't even pay BAIL to walk around and disappear - and you can't collect on them anyway.
 

PoppaVic

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Pelosi reverses on border bill, plans vote on Senate version after GOP pressure


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-dems-senate-border
I'd still prefer to shut it down and corral a pile of leftists - and rinos thinking they are safe - to charge with treason, sedition, malfeasance and misappropriation: These asswipes are screwing the voters, the taxpayers, the budget - and all so they can avoid closing the illegal immigrant loopholes, catch & release, and actually doing their goddamned jobs. They've been legislating from the bench for over a decade, and avoiding honest, sane legislation for at least another decade - yes, I consider all their reverse-yodaspeak riders insane.
 

PoppaVic

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Shouldn't be a cost to taxpayers, should be a billable cost to the illegal alien, along with food, all medical, and anything else including lodging, welfare, etc that must be paid back in full before citizenship applications are granted.
None of the illegals can afford this happy-horseshit..

Now, if you want to bill the NGO's, DNC, RNC, Sanc-Cities.. Now you got a pot-o-gold to shovel.
 

pulsevape

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yeah so where do so called poor people get the money to fly from the Congo to Guatemala.......

The Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) ranks in as the poorest country in the world based on its GDP per capita over the 2009-2013 period. With DRC citizensearning on average $394.25 a year, the country stands in sharp contrast with Qatar — where people earn an average of $105,091.42 a year.
 
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