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Morning fugee's and GFY :p


For over a year now I been vaping 2 flavors. For me thats odd because I use to vape over 10 flavors as ADV's. My usual flavors for the last year have been peach and a vanilla for pipe flavor. Like everyone I get tired of the same old same old so last week I decided I wanted a treat so I ordered some Mother Milk from Suicide bunny. $90 for 240 ml's not cheap by any means. Yet as an addition they included a 60ml bottle go Mothers Milk and cereal and a 30 ml bottle of Cloud Company Revel

Not cheap but not bad for a treat either. And will probably be another year or more before I order any more juice.


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If there is any fuggee's left on VU, GFY :p

Find it funny Colorado has a blizzard going on and its gonna be in the 80's here today and I plan on cutting a lot of grass. Living in the south has many advantages :teehee:
 

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Ahh but I like the scenery in CO.
Sister is selling her place in Durango and moving back here though...

Legal recreational Herbs is not bad either.

Rode a Harley thru a good bit of Colorado and yes it is a beautiful state. Being able to enjoy recreational h*rb legally would be nice too but that whole your presidential vote just dont count anymore thing I couldnt condone.
 

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If there is any fuggee's left on VU, GFY :p

Find it funny Colorado has a blizzard going on and its gonna be in the 80's here today and I plan on cutting a lot of grass. Living in the south has many advantages :teehee:

I'm still around, just not as often. I keep trying to raise consciousness about vaping, on twitter and quora, but godDAMN it's an uphill battle. At least I get to tweet with cool folks like DrMA, fellow fuggers remember him from ECF? and Stefan Didak, he's a hoot too, but I have to come back here from time to time because arguing with anti-vape idiots is both tiring and frustrating IN THE EXTREME. But it's gotta get done. And I'm having a good time, writing articles for my blog.

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HEY fugees... How's life! Me? I'm busier than a one legged me in an ass kicking contest. :teehee:

I've been sick as a dog for the past half-week or so; started coming down with what i thought was a cold, a week ago today, and by Wed or thurs, I had to realize that it was actually flu, because colds don't make me THAT short of breath and coughing so much. I was able to vape till about wednesday, but since then, hardly been able to, at all, except for a few mouth-hits when the temptation is too strong. But I can't taste it, can't feel it, so i just say fuck that, and put it back down again. *sigh*

So, flu, two yrs in a row. I guess i'll be getting a fucking flu shot from now on, because this shit is for the BIRDS.

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I've been sick as a dog for the past half-week or so; started coming down with what i thought was a cold, a week ago today, and by Wed or thurs, I had to realize that it was actually flu, because colds don't make me THAT short of breath and coughing so much. I was able to vape till about wednesday, but since then, hardly been able to, at all, except for a few mouth-hits when the temptation is too strong. But I can't taste it, can't feel it, so i just say fuck that, and put it back down again. *sigh*

So, flu, two yrs in a row. I guess i'll be getting a fucking flu shot from now on, because this shit is for the BIRDS.

Andria


Hope you feel better soon. My docs office made me get a flu shot a few months ago.
 

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I've been sick as a dog for the past half-week or so; started coming down with what i thought was a cold, a week ago today, and by Wed or thurs, I had to realize that it was actually flu, because colds don't make me THAT short of breath and coughing so much. I was able to vape till about wednesday, but since then, hardly been able to, at all, except for a few mouth-hits when the temptation is too strong. But I can't taste it, can't feel it, so i just say fuck that, and put it back down again. *sigh*

So, flu, two yrs in a row. I guess i'll be getting a fucking flu shot from now on, because this shit is for the BIRDS.

Andria
Get better.
Had one flu shot in my life. Did not get the flu, but then I did not get the flue most all of those other years I did not have a shot.
Think I have only had the flu a few times in my life.
Used to have a couple of colds per year though until I stopped smoking.
 

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Seen on the news tonight that if you was born in the 60's. 70. or early 80's your not protected from measles and need to get a booster shot.
 

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Seen on the news tonight that if you was born in the 60's. 70. or early 80's your not protected from measles and need to get a booster shot.

What hogwash. I got the vaccine for that a LONG time ago. And for mumps, too. Suffered the german measles when i was 8. When I joined the air force in '79, they gave me a bunch of vaccines in basic training, too, so I'm covered for pretty much anything except tetanus; if i get any sort of injury outdoors, i'll need to get one of those, haven't had a tetanus shot since '94 when I lost an argument with a stuck window.

I've never thought the flu shots were really worth getting, but if there is the SLIGHTEST CHANCE IN HELL it will keep me from catching shit like this again, I'll take it. Couple days last week, I thought I was gonna have to go to the ER, my breathing was so bad; just turning over in bed and i was gasping for breath for 10 minutes. today it's my GODDAMNED INFURIATING!!! nose!!! It has not stopped for even 5 minutes since goddamn 10am this morning, and if I had some alum, i swear to god I'd snort that shit up my nose just to get some PEACE!

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Pickle yer nose?

At this point I would do pretty much anything to make the fucker knock it off. Several times today i've had to roll up a tissue and insert both ends into my nostrils and just wear it around like a fucking nose diaper. It's driving me BATSHIT!!!!!!! I've been taking benadryl like fucking pez all day long, to very little effect. If I didn't use lotion tissue exclusively, the damn thing would be BLOODY -- it's sore as hell even WITH using lotion tissue!

I haven't been outside all day, but we're smack in the middle of the trees' sexy season, yellow-green pollen EVERYWHERE. It's never bothered me, tree pollen, normally I don't start having allergy symptoms till mid-May and on thru the summer from grass pollen. But with being smoke-free for nearly 5 yrs now, maybe my allergies are making a comeback to how they were when i was a child? and maybe my illness is just making the whole thing worse. It's bad enough, being so chest-congested and breathless, but the nose shit today has been completely off the damn charts. My breathlessness is getting a LITTLE better, but still coughing a LOT, trying to clear that shit out of my chest.

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What hogwash. I got the vaccine for that a LONG time ago. And for mumps, too. Suffered the german measles when i was 8. When I joined the air force in '79, they gave me a bunch of vaccines in basic training, too, so I'm covered for pretty much anything except tetanus; if i get any sort of injury outdoors, i'll need to get one of those, haven't had a tetanus shot since '94 when I lost an argument with a stuck window.

I've never thought the flu shots were really worth getting, but if there is the SLIGHTEST CHANCE IN HELL it will keep me from catching shit like this again, I'll take it. Couple days last week, I thought I was gonna have to go to the ER, my breathing was so bad; just turning over in bed and i was gasping for breath for 10 minutes. today it's my GODDAMNED INFURIATING!!! nose!!! It has not stopped for even 5 minutes since goddamn 10am this morning, and if I had some alum, i swear to god I'd snort that shit up my nose just to get some PEACE!

Andria


I was vaccinated for all time too yet the local evening news had the story about how if you received immunization during those years your body never built up an immunity to the disease and you should get a booster. I am not really worried about it but heard there is an outbreak in Mississippi this morning so next time I see my family doctor in a few months I will get a booster then.
 

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Well Being in the foster system and then adopted i had all my shots BUT I still managed to get the fucking MUMPS at the same fucking time as STREP THROAT... I felt like DEATH. It was awful!
 

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Well Being in the foster system and then adopted i had all my shots BUT I still managed to get the fucking MUMPS at the same fucking time as STREP THROAT... I felt like DEATH. It was awful!

Eek, that would be horrible. I've had strep a few times, but fortunately got the mumps vaccine before I ever had to suffer that; likewise measles. But I'm definitely gonna be getting a flu shot in the fall in years ahead; I'm not a young thang anymore, and this flu shit hits my chest HARD, given my asthma. At least this year it didn't sap my energy so hard as it did last year, which kept me from being able to cough enough to clear the congestion out; I'm coughing like a bastard this time around, so hopefully I can get it out of there before it sets up a bacterial infection as it did last year.

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Guess I have to reawaken this thread, since I'm apparently not welcome anywhere else on this forum. Can't believe this thread got NO posts all thru may! Horrors!

I need some advice on easily rebuildable RTAs, with massive airflow, for my son.

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Not welcome???

Sorry but no advise on massive airflow RTA's.
Mine are massive to you but not to most.

Just how massive are we talking? Power/watts?

Um, to be honest, I'm not entirely sure, and he's gone to bed, the lightweight. :teehee: I think he vapes around 60w or so. He's been using the quatre-coil mesh atties, one of which came with his Aegis Legend, and he LOVES those tanks, but I told him that he needed to be prepared in case the fecal matter hits the rotating blades, with this new FDA bullshit. The atty is the "GeekVape Aero Mesh Atomizer", and he's been using the .15 ohm heads for it. He knows how to build coils, but he finds wire fatter than 26ga too hard to get fastened down properly, so I think a dual-coil setup at the very least, would be suitable for him.

As you correctly noted, I know NOTHINK about massive-airflow atties, which is why I have to ask my vape buds here at VU. As I tootle along at a whopping 10w, 1.91 ohms. :teehee:

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Just a general observation, but 60 watts and massive airflow don't seem to really go together :rolleyes:

For him, they do -- he just really likes the really open draw, the "huff" rather than "puff" -- and those Aero Mesh coils do really well at 60w. But he's like me in that he doesn't want a very warm vape, even at the super-low resistance of those Aero Mesh heads, and I suspect that's why the wattage is 60w and not higher. It's really all a balancing act, determined by how warm one wants the vape, and how much and what kind of "suction" one wishes to use -- I like a super-tight draw, and don't like a very warm vape; fortunately I discovered the Achilles RDA when I was still fairly new to vaping, think I'd been vaping just over a year then, and it gives me the tight draw and outstanding flavor, at the 10w I prefer since i don't like a warm vape -- that Achilles could be used as high as 15w or even 20w, if someone liked a really warm tight-draw vape.

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andria. you sound like you expect something soon?

There's a thread I saw in the last few days, about some idiot judge insisting that the FDA "do its job" about "regulating" vaping -- this suit was brought by the Tobakko Kontrol Kartel a/k/a Tobacco Free Kids and their ilk, because of how much vaping is cutting into BP's profits. I don't know if some idiot judge is sufficient to move the FuckingDumbAsses when they don't feel like moving, but I think it's best to be prepared for Vapocalypse, for anyone who wants to keep vaping. We've got about 3½ liters of nicotine in the freezer, but if those tanks he likes become unavailable, I don't want him to go back to smoking just because he can't find a vape he really likes.

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For him, they do -- he just really likes the really open draw, the "huff" rather than "puff" -- and those Aero Mesh coils do really well at 60w. But he's like me in that he doesn't want a very warm vape, even at the super-low resistance of those Aero Mesh heads, and I suspect that's why the wattage is 60w and not higher. It's really all a balancing act, determined by how warm one wants the vape, and how much and what kind of "suction" one wishes to use -- I like a super-tight draw, and don't like a very warm vape; fortunately I discovered the Achilles RDA when I was still fairly new to vaping, think I'd been vaping just over a year then, and it gives me the tight draw and outstanding flavor, at the 10w I prefer since i don't like a warm vape -- that Achilles could be used as high as 15w or even 20w, if someone liked a really warm tight-draw vape.

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Oh I know. I was just making a friendly kinda tongue in cheek jab at the lightweights. :)
 

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Guess I have to reawaken this thread, since I'm apparently not welcome anywhere else on this forum. Can't believe this thread got NO posts all thru may! Horrors!

I need some advice on easily rebuildable RTAs, with massive airflow, for my son.

Andria


I havent bought any RDA's or anything in a couple years. Dont think I would be much help Andria.
 

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Guess I have to reawaken this thread, since I'm apparently not welcome anywhere else on this forum. Can't believe this thread got NO posts all thru may! Horrors!

I need some advice on easily rebuildable RTAs, with massive airflow, for my son.

Andria
Who changed the name? Except political?
Anyway hey yooze guys. Work has me busy.
Love y'all
 

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There's a thread I saw in the last few days, about some idiot judge insisting that the FDA "do its job" about "regulating" vaping -- this suit was brought by the Tobakko Kontrol Kartel a/k/a Tobacco Free Kids and their ilk, because of how much vaping is cutting into BP's profits. I don't know if some idiot judge is sufficient to move the FuckingDumbAsses when they don't feel like moving,
...

What I consider is two facts:

1. Allegedly they're supposed to be enforcing this bit that nobody can sell Juuls to underage 18 and under kids.
2. Kids are still getting grubby paws on Juuls and will continue doing so no matter the enforcement.

Believe I recall you saying it would be exactly like prohibition with booze. Well, given those two facts stated and known, ... there you go your point is proven out. And the government, big tobacco both can see that's the case. Here's a bit of a snafu for you.

When we're all criminals are they going to lock us all up? And it is safe to assume that will be the perception. We're no longer going to be innocent until proved guilty, nope, we're all just guilty as sin.

Would they even bother trying? Can you imagine what happened after hurricane Katrina happening again, where the Feds come in and seized firearms from folks? Somehow I'm thinking that's not going to be forgotten nor are the counts of our government lying to us, the People. Do you see the probability of a stalemate, a standoff in the works? I damn sure do.

What then, full on armed threat response against American by American military? Sure you might have some of the military willing to cross that line. But I would imagine you'd have just as many, or more not willing to do so, and instead standing for the People. I might be wrong and I would hate to see it come to that just to find out. I've got a gut instinct telling me I'm not wrong. That and the fact there's groups like Oath Keepers around lets me believe America's People are still trying to live to the lofty aspirations set forth at our nation's birth.

So ultimately, I am doubtful the FDA can/will do much of anything judge, twenty judges or not. Then again, I'm just some idealistic young pup what thinks the world still needs heroes, not those that show up for badges and medals either. No, those aren't real heroes, just glory dogs. Real heroes never hear folks say thank you, they're already busy fighting the next fight to save as many as they can. Real heroes never die because that means they stopped long enough for death to catch up. So, don't stop, keep moving!

Apologies to thread rules. I don't see it as political matter but a matter of right versus wrong. Though I respect folks thinking the two might be the same.

And no, @AndriaD , I am not merely saying "oh tut tut, it'll all be alright" and dismissing your views, concerns. I've given a lot of consideration to such quagmires and am not naive enough to think "it'll be alright" and we just go on. At the same time I know that as people we all need to have a point where we tell this shit, .... "go fuck yourself!" If you don't you'll only keep worrying over what might not even ever happen and be driven mad by a lot of useless "doom and gloom". Fuck that. I'm going to stay positive even despite, ... whatever. I know it may seem someone with anhedonia is a great one to say their staying positive but, if I can do it, ...

:) Sunshine, nobody ever gets out alive anyway. :)
 
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I like general insanity in this thread but not political insanity.

I saw General Insanity talking with Sgt. Nuking Futs over in the mess hall. Seems they brewing up some plan involving hot air balloons, something about "sure get enough of it here" was said. I'm wondering about those plans I buried, they might not be safe. Think I'll go hide them in @Rossum 's jars in the blue Ridge mountains. He won't mind and even if he does, he'll just use the plans and say nothing more about it. I mean really now, get a .70 coil to hit like .30 coil, bound to save wire that way. Ha, no more under toe of Big Wire's boot in charging us $5 for a 250 ft spool of wire. :)

I'm so happy to be told to fuck myself. It might even be better than the idea for fucking pants. Hm, ...
 

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I havent bought any RDA's or anything in a couple years. Dont think I would be much help Andria.

He's not too wild about RDAs, though he's tried out the "Magma Reborn" that someone PIFed us -- I think it might have been Inspects? He says it's "not open enough" which makes me give him the raised eyebrow, since I find the ORIGINAL Magma with all but one of the TINIEST holes closed off, too airy, but oh well. I can't get him into squonking; he really likes those RTAs, and considering what I've gone thru thx to being so spoiled by the Achilles' superlative flavor, I think it's probably better if he doesn't get spoiled by the flavor of some RDA that then becomes unavailable. :facepalm: It truly sucks when you find your vape nirvana, and then some asshole in marketing decides they aren't going to make that bit anymore.

Basically, I guess, he wants something with the same open airflow and good flavor of the Aero Mesh atty, but *i* want it to be rebuildable, because he's my spawn, he's got more or less chronic bronchitis and I don't want him smoking again, he's stopped coughing since he got back to vape-only, and I don't like what I've been reading about the FDA maybe finally getting down to brass tacks about that damn regulation bullshit.

Andria
 

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Ahh he wants a much more aggressive atty than I have ever tried it seems.
They make rebuildable mesh attys but i am not familiar with any of them. Except that apparently if not VERY properly wicked they can give a dry hit from hell.
 

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...

What I consider is two facts:

1. Allegedly they're supposed to be enforcing this bit that nobody can sell Juuls to underage 18 and under kids.
2. Kids are still getting grubby paws on Juuls and will continue doing so no matter the enforcement.

Believe I recall you saying it would be exactly like prohibition with booze. Well, given those two facts stated and known, ... there you go your point is proven out. And the government, big tobacco both can see that's the case. Here's a bit of a snafu for you.

When we're all criminals are they going to lock us all up? And it is safe to assume that will be the perception. We're no longer going to be innocent until proved guilty, nope, we're all just guilty as sin.

Would they even bother trying? Can you imagine what happened after hurricane Katrina happening again, where the Feds come in and seized firearms from folks? Somehow I'm thinking that's not going to be forgotten nor are the counts of our government lying to us, the People. Do you see the probability of a stalemate, a standoff in the works? I damn sure do.

What then, full on armed threat response against American by American military? Sure you might have some of the military willing to cross that line. But I would imagine you'd have just as many, or more not willing to do so, and instead standing for the People. I might be wrong and I would hate to see it come to that just to find out. I've got a gut instinct telling me I'm not wrong. That and the fact there's groups like Oath Keepers around lets me believe America's People are still trying to live to the lofty aspirations set forth at our nation's birth.

So ultimately, I am doubtful the FDA can/will do much of anything judge, twenty judges or not. Then again, I'm just some idealistic young pup what thinks the world still needs heroes, not those that show up for badges and medals either. No, those aren't real heroes, just glory dogs. Real heroes never hear folks say thank you, they're already busy fighting the next fight to save as many as they can. Real heroes never die because that means they stopped long enough for death to catch up. So, don't stop, keep moving!

Apologies to thread rules. I don't see it as political matter but a matter of right versus wrong. Though I respect folks thinking the two might be the same.

And no, @AndriaD , I am not merely saying "oh tut tut, it'll all be alright" and dismissing your views, concerns. I've given a lot of consideration to such quagmires and am not naive enough to think "it'll be alright" and we just go on. At the same time I know that as people we all need to have a point where we tell this shit, .... "go fuck yourself!" If you don't you'll only keep worrying over what might not even ever happen and be driven mad by a lot of useless "doom and gloom". Fuck that. I'm going to stay positive even despite, ... whatever. I know it may seem someone with anhedonia is a great one to say their staying positive but, if I can do it, ...

:) Sunshine, nobody ever gets out alive anyway. :)

Well.. I don't wanna get crossways with Cromwell over politics in this thread, he's an alien you know. ;) So let me just say that I more or less agree with all that, but I think it's best to be independent of whatever the idiots in gov't do -- hope for the best, prepare for the worst, has always been my motto and SOP. That's why we have 3½ liters of nic in the freezer (and will be getting more, as freezer space opens up), and I don't want my well-beloved spawn going back to smoking just because he can't find something to vape that he really likes.

Andria
 

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I think it's best to be independent of whatever the idiots in gov't do -- hope for the best, prepare for the worst, has always been my motto and SOP. That's why we have 3½ liters of nic in the freezer (and will be getting more, as freezer space opens up), and I don't want my well-beloved spawn going back to smoking just because he can't find something to vape that he really likes.

Yes, I understand that and to a point agree with such a philosophy/way of thought. Not saying alter that. Didn't want to sound like that was said.

Now, to more important matters ... red fishnets or purple? I'm thinking in a bank it won't matter but I'm never good with color and fashion. Figure if they so busy looking at my sexy chicken legs they'll not notice me emptying out the vault, or tills. Thought about regular nylons but they just don't extenuate the sex appeal like fishnets. :)

I would say the Profile RDA but that's an RDA not a tank. He's set on mesh? I'm recalling something about a Griffin RTA. Hm, that might be just that it has a deck like a Velocity. @midknight420 I think had/has one of those and if I recall he said it's nice. But that's not mesh.


Ah, might want to look at the Vapefly. Oddly, seems Heaven Gifts doesn't ship it to US. But no problem. Yes, I see 101 has them out of stock. To me that says folks like 'em. They can notify you when back in stock too. I apologize for not taking a minute to look. Been putting off buying new anything except consumables a little. That Vapefly looks damn interesting though.

There's also the Kylin M

Themis

Mesh Pro ( an RDA but hella juice well)


Recently, learned I got an atrophied kidney. Not that such a thing actually matters in the grander scheme. That however has given a little pause in rushing out spending my vape budget. I'm holding back less than $20 but it's not from lack of not buying stuff. I put off a new RDA I was looking to try and opted instead for "well, I got about four or five here to use still, vape 'em till I do need". Just bought a few small bottles of flavoring, some VG nicotine base, wire. I'm also limiting myself on "oh gee let's try a new build in such and such", going to try seeing if 1 coil can last a year. Why? Just so I can be stingy with all my new bought wire. Besides I'm a masochist like that. *chuckles* Got to have something to do, no?

Alrighty, off to go see my fave MIL. She took to having a heart attack brought on by ketosis last week. Really rather not be up there with wife's sister and BIL but I'm going for her mom, not them, they can't bother ensuring her mom gets up moves, tests, eats right and looks out for herself. Sure, she's the mom but at the same time she needs a nudge now and then. They don't bother, they don't care.
 
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