alcohol taste.

susieqz · Jun 19, 2019

hiya, guys.
i bot some cap bannana split n it has a very strong alcohol smell.
any problem with me just leaving the bottle open for a few days?
i read that some people let boozy mixes sit out after mixing, but i suspect i'd loose other volitiles from other components doing that.

what do you do?

SteveS45 · Jun 20, 2019

I would never let a concentrate breath only after mixing. Sort of like a bottle of wine you let it breath for a short while but don't leave it open for extended periods of time before finishing it.

88ArDeN88 · Jun 20, 2019

susieqz said:
hiya, guys.
i bot some cap bannana split n it has a very strong alcohol smell.
any problem with me just leaving the bottle open for a few days?
i read that some people let boozy mixes sit out after mixing, but i suspect i'd loose other volitiles from other components doing that.

what do you do?

It will go away. Just because it smells that way doesn't mean it will taste that way either. There is no need to leave it open.

susieqz · Jun 20, 2019

thanks, guys.

The Cromwell · Jun 20, 2019

From MSDS sheet. Appears to contain no alcohol.
Although the Ethyl vanillin or the isoamyl stuff may be pretty much alcohol based?

Chemical name Common name and synonyms CAS number % PROPYLENE GLYCOL NOM 57-55-6 80 - < 90 NFI VANILLIN #234 5 - < 10 ETHYL MALTOL NOM #169 1-

ETHYL VANILLIN #296 1-

ISOAMYL ACETATE NAT #1006 123-92-2 1-

NOP TRADE SECRET* < 0.2 Other components below reportable levels

susieqz · Jun 20, 2019

well. i was gonna pour it in a shot glass n get looped
thanks for checking but the sheet lies.

JuicyLucy · Jun 20, 2019

Pure PG itself is a sugar alcohol - and then there are the secret ingredients

True liquid vanillas are just basically vanilla beans soaked in high test alcohol; its easy to make using vodka for instance

susieqz · Jun 20, 2019

safe to inhale?

JuicyLucy · Jun 20, 2019

I guess, people sure eat and drink it

SteveS45 · Jun 20, 2019

susieqz said:
well. i was gonna pour it in a shot glass n get looped

Have a glass of this it is more enjoyable....... :vino:

The Cromwell · Jun 20, 2019

Does ethyl vanillin contain alcohol?
As a synthesized chemical, this aromas is general recognized as halal. Vanillin andethyl vanillin are flavourings present in vanilla beans. In their powdered form they do not contain alcohol. In current practice, most of the vanillin and ethyl vanillin isproduced synthetically.

so I am still confused..
Normal day for me

The Cromwell · Jun 20, 2019

Never read the labels folks.
LOL

Isoamyl acetate is used to confer banana flavor in foods. Banana oil commonly refers to a solution of isoamyl acetate in ethanol that is used as an artificial flavor. It is also used as a solvent for some varnishes and nitrocellulose lacquers.

RonJS · Jun 20, 2019

susieqz said:
safe to inhale?

Must be. All the cool kids do it. :sarcasm:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertglatter/2013/06/21/the-dangers-of-smoking-alcohol/#5c9d45447af8

susieqz · Jun 20, 2019

not real happy about acetate either.
acetone is a poison, tho i think kids sniff it to kill unwanted brain cells.

SteveS45 · Jun 20, 2019

susieqz said:
tho i think kids sniff it to kill unwanted brain cells.

Some of the older folks here killed a few too many in their days..............

The Cromwell · Jun 20, 2019

Only banana flavoring I found that I could vape was from flavorconcentrates.com.
All natural. and very realistic but requires about a 1 month steep.
Same with strawberry.

Because it is all natural it does have to be used at a higher percentage like around 15% or so for straight banana.

susieqz · Jun 20, 2019

15% ?
don't know if i could go that low.
i usually use 25% -30% so i can get a hint of taste.

SteveS45 · Jun 20, 2019

@susieqz also never forget some of the people who make recommendations either have no taste buds and require extremely high percentages or are so allergic they can't take more than what the main stream or average user mixes. Like I said be careful what suggestions you might use.

SteveS45 · Jun 20, 2019

I usually start with the Manufacturers recommended percentage and either dilute or add. Works for me but I started making DIY when a bunch of Idiot self proclaimed DIY Gurus made such a big deal about RY4. Which is basically Tobacco with some Caramel or Vanilla but back then it was some kind of big fucking secret.

The Cromwell · Jun 20, 2019

susieqz said:
15% ?
don't know if i could go that low.
i usually use 25% -30% so i can get a hint of taste.

I used a max of 25% with the strawberry.

susieqz · Jun 20, 2019

i thot i had taste buds, but in reguard to vaping, i guess i don't.
i'm happy with diy tho.
everything i've mixed is at least acceptable.
i threw out bottle after bottle of bot juices.
i can taste disgusting.

susieqz · Jun 20, 2019

where does one find the manufacturer's recommended % ?
all i see on the bottle is
RESPERATORY SENSITIZER.
AVOID BREATHING MIST OR VAPOR.......

susieqz · Jun 20, 2019

crom, do you add strawberry to your custard?

The Cromwell · Jun 20, 2019

susieqz said:
crom, do you add strawberry to your custard?

Nope but you could. It is a pretty good base for most things.
Best with apple, cinnamon (bakery) or the like.

susieqz · Jun 20, 2019

The Cromwell said:
Nope but you could. It is a pretty good base for most things.
Best with apple, cinnamon (bakery) or the like.

i love that mix.
i don't taste custard, but whatever i taste i enjoy.

SteveS45 · Jun 20, 2019

susieqz said:
New
where does one find the manufacturer's recommended % ?

Most of the Manufacturers I use have it posted on the website for the individual flavors. I am not talking about someones recipe I am talking about what the actual maker suggests. Remember again this is just how I go about finding the sweet spot.

The Cromwell · Jun 20, 2019

susieqz said:
i love that mix.
i don't taste custard, but whatever i taste i enjoy.

If you like cinnamon rolls and such add a bit of CAP Cinnamon Roll V1.
Once you get that right then try adding some double apple to the mix.

susieqz · Jun 20, 2019

i have the apple, so i'll get the cinnamon, for fun.

cap doesn't seem to have recommendations, possibly because vaping isn't their primary
focus.
crom, check the label on your vanilla custard.
same warning not to vape.
this is worrisome.

The Cromwell · Jun 20, 2019

bottles with labels is in freezer.
Been vaping CAP VC V1 for 3 years. All I have vaped for over the past year or two.

CAP does not officially condone or promote their products for vaping.
which is a good thing, the FDA cannot mess with them.
And if you go to BCF all of the CAP V1 products will have a warning notice.

Only side effect is that my feet stink.

susieqz · Jun 20, 2019

oh dear. i didn't get v1.
what bothers me is that only some bottles say do not vape.
i thot it was to protect against liability, but it's not.

they have a peach v1 or 2 which is disgusting so i avoided it. 4 oz bottles are pricey.

The Cromwell · Jun 20, 2019

I only buy the V1 CAP flavors. all the V2 I have tried tastes of bile to me.
And the bad stuff they are worrying about is in minuscule amounts compared to smoking. Yep you get it in cigs too at a much higher rate.

Vaping is not totally risk free just a MUCH safer alternative to smoking.
Harm Reduction, not Harm Elimination.

susieqz · Jun 20, 2019

well, i'm gonna use up this bottle, but i;ll get v1 next'
i'm not worried about a little risk.
my teeth are white n the house smells nice.

by the way, i was told to not store juice or flavors in the freezer.
is that wrong?

The Cromwell · Jun 20, 2019

susieqz said:
well, i'm gonna use up this bottle, but i;ll get v1 next'
i'm not worried about a little risk.
my teeth are white n the house smells nice.

by the way, i was told to not store juice or flavors in the freezer.
is that wrong?

I store all my flavors in the freezer.
Only had problems with Brown sugar Extract. It crystallizes, but is fine when let warm up and shaken.
You should always let the bottle warm to room temp and shake well before using.
Juice should be no issue either if you let warm and shake.
The last bottle of VC V1 I pulled out a few weeks ago had a 2016 date on it and it was fine.
I write the mo/yr on the bottles when I put them in the freezer and use oldest first.
I fill a 30 ml amber bottle from the 4 oz bottle and put the 4 oz bottle back in the freezer.
I do the same with my nic.
Heck I even have a few gallons of PG/VG in there

susieqz · Jun 20, 2019

good to know.
i have bottles all over n i could just hide them in the freezer.

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