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I’m in!
Awesome. I’m going to give it a whirl with some citrus I think. I’ll think up something and post it here. I think it has a lot of potential.
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It does. Kinda marshmallow. Cream soda(without the bubbles). And it makes a great candy shell at 3%. Like the candy shell on an m&m....not the chocolate part, just the shell. I haven’t played with it enough. From what I’ve read, it goes well with tobaccos, citrus, vanilla, creams.....it’s a good blender down low. HIC uses it quite a bit.
So citrus, huh. What are you thinking?
So citrus, huh. What are you thinking?
Honestly I don’t know. I’ve got a bunch of stuff coming in today. That damn George Washington delayed my vape mail yesterday. I have a couple NETS coming in from stixx mixx. I however have a LONG day. I left my house at 5:30 for the gym and won’t get home until around 9pm tonight so I won’t even get to try until tomorrow. But I will let the idea kick around in my head.
I keep forgetting to order it. This one has me intrigued but very well could be a flop. Interesting though.
https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/123931#blu3_by_kindground
The guy told me the Oba was essential to make this work.
https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/123931#blu3_by_kindground
The guy told me the Oba was essential to make this work.
Reminds me a little of HIC's experiment in bubble gum. I was thinking more like some kind of citrus soda type thing. I don't know honestly. So this was one of the first flavors I got because I saw that it could be used like a candy shell and I thought that was a cool idea, but I never did any SFT on it, so I really don't know what it does. So I made a marshmallow recipe with it that I let steep for a few days and tasted like crap, but then after like 2 weeks turned into something quite lovely.
hey @wildgypsy70 did you get that juice?
I use it my Creamy Forest Fruit.
http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/1880378/Howard Hughes' Creamy Forest Fruit
http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/1880378/Howard Hughes' Creamy Forest Fruit
That raises some interesting questions. I wasn't thinking creamy for this one, I'm looking to make something more uniquely fruity. All I've been vaping since DIY is creamy bakeries and stuff. I want to go for something different. I just ordered a bunch of fruits to expand my fruit collection, but if this ends up taking me in a similar direction, I won't be disappointed.
Just an opinion, but when I work with fruits and NO cream I almost always like to add some TFA Smooth to those. And yes, I usually use Oba Oba when creams are added. Maybe I should think of using it without creams, but I kind of know what I like lol. Taste can be very, very subjective.
I really don't like creams, I absolutely LOVE them, but lately I am craving a nice juicy fruit mix with some pop to it, that mouth watering juicy fruit. I haven't really mixed anything besides a watermelon lemonade that I made the mistake of adding Ice too and I don't like the ice.Just an opinion, but when I work with fruits and NO cream I almost always like to add some TFA Smooth to those. And yes, I usually use Oba Oba when creams are added. Maybe I should think of using it without creams, but I kind of know what I like lol. Taste can be very, very subjective.
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Not yet! Imma excited! Maybe tomorrow, if the snow doesn’t stop the postal service.
Let me ask you a different question. Nothing to do with Oba. So I’ve been trying to create a coffee ice cream. It’s my favorite ice cream. I’ve been using Brazilian. But I am thinking it contains triacetin to mellow out some of its notes. I have made vanilla milk shake with mts vape wizard for the blended effect, but it doesn’t do that as much as it mutes the buttery creamy notes in the ice cream, and the Brazilian coffee seems to have this same effect. I have a bottle steeping for like 3 weeks now. Haven’t tasted it again but the ice cream disappears behind the coffee at even .75% and all that beautiful creamy deliciousness goes away. Any thoughts?
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Coffee is such a pain in the ass to work with! Argh! Maybe Brazilian isn’t a good ice cream coffee......let’s see.....I haven’t tried the Brazilian with ice cream. I have tried FA Tiramisu and Dark Bean, INW Kawa, WF Smooth Cappuccino and LB Cappuccino. The cappuccinos seem to work better, but they’re more subtle. Tiramisu is strong and has a slight chocolate note....but works down low. You’ve got me thinking I might wanna make a coffee ice cream now, as it is my favorite, as well!
What are you using as your ice cream base?
So I purposely used TPA VBIC because it’s got some backbone. And cream fresh. So the whole recipe waS this
TPA- VBIC - 4%
FA Cream Fresh - .75%
Caramel - 1.25%
Coconut - 1.25%
WF Brazilian coffee- .75%
HIC has a good one that I've made for a long time called
HIC's Xtra Smooth Tiramisu
FA Vierna Cream 1%
FA Catalan Cream 1%
Fresh Cream 1%
FA Booster Tiramisu 1%
Easy and very tasty recipe. I'm vaping it right now actually in the Bonza rda on top of theLuxotic Noisy Cricket in series. It's amazing as a warm vape. Been mixing thisfor like 3 years and I STILL freaking love it.
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HIC's Xtra Smooth Tiramisu
FA Vierna Cream 1%
FA Catalan Cream 1%
Fresh Cream 1%
FA Booster Tiramisu 1%
Easy and very tasty recipe. I'm vaping it right now actually in the Bonza rda on top of theLuxotic Noisy Cricket in series. It's amazing as a warm vape. Been mixing thisfor like 3 years and I STILL freaking love it.
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Yes but it’s not coffee ice cream. I made a good tiramisu, I want that coffee ice cream texture.
I'll have to try that coffee ice cream one too. That sounds great too.
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It didn't work. Don't do it. LOL. I am trying to find wonder flavors msds because the brazilian coffee does the same thing to the ice cream that triacetin or MTS Vape Wiz does and completely mutes the buttery creamy ice cream notes. It still tastes good, but it isn't creamy delicious coffee ice cream.
Thanks for the warning. I'd love to try this if you can get it working right. Sounds amazing.
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So I guess this thread has evolved into the coffee ice cream and oba oba collab thread. I like it.
You never know how a thread will evolve. All I know is that I love coffee ice cream and that's never a bad thing haha
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So Wonder Flavors doesn't release their msds ingredient information, so I don't know what it is about the coffee that mutes those flavors, but I used it at .75% and it still did. I could use tiramisu but that isn't the coffee flavor i'm going for.
Or maybe try msds at .25 or even .5%, I'm not familiar with msds myself, but maybe less is more like allot of FA flavors less is more. Just my two cents
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MSDS is the material safety data sheets. Thats where I found what was causing the issue. I had suspicion that WF Brazilian Coffee and FA Booster (tirmamisu) contained Triacetin, it is the main ingredient in TFA Smooth and MTS Vape Wizard, it emulsifies, blends, smooths out harsh edges. It is the Triacetin contained in the coffee flavorings that is causing the problem. It makes sense that it is in there and why those coffee flavors are so good because it smooths out any of the rough edges in the coffee and probably gets rid of that burnt flavor many coffee concentrates seem to have.
Msds, I should have known that LOL, I'm posting with minimal sleep atm haha. Maybe instead of using wizard, try smoothing it with creams. That's what makes that tiramisu recipe I posted so good. It's SERIOUSLY smooth. Perhaps that could be a good solution.
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Get some rest, lol. I'm not using MTS in the coffee ice cream, but the same ingredient in MTS is IN THE COFFEE CONCENTRATES. That is what's causing the problem. I hardly ever add mts to my recipe creation.
That's why I was thinking creams instead of mts wizard. Perhaps the creams will give the smoothness and be missing the bad juju of wizard. Might research some creams and see what you find.
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Maybe some milk too, Just shooting in the dark on that one, but popped into my head.
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Maybe I'm not explaining properly. I'm not using MTS. I don't know how else to say it LOL. The bad juju and similar effect is coming from the COFFEE, not MTS. It is the triacetin in the coffee concentrates. I have not added MTS Vape Wizard to the coffee ice cream recipe at any point, I was only mentioning it to compare it to the effect that WF Brazilian Coffee is having. I used TFA VBIC and FA Cream fresh which is usually an incredible combination, but the coffee has stuff in it that is muting the creams. If it is muting vbic and cream fresh it will mute anything else put up against it.
Hmm, that is a conundrum. I'm sure there has to be a solution to this. There's almost always a way. I'll have to think on this one. I'm no master mixer, but I have made a number of decent juices, but mostly fruits. I'll think about thistoday myself for sure and see if I can come up with anything. This sounds like too good of a juice for it not to happen LOL.
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I think a solution could be making a home made coffee concentrate and getting some really good coffee and suspending it in PG for a month or something.
That's a possibility. I never thought of that. That is an interesting solution, now I'm SERIOUSLY curious about this one LOL.
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Me too. Because Ice creams are one of my favorite vapes to start. Coffee ice cream is my favorite ice cream. The combination has to be heavenly.
Me too, I LOVE coffee ice cream. It's like heaven on earth.
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So I think you may be looking for a cappuccino flavor. I played around with them this morning and just by smell alone, they would probably work for coffee ice cream. They even smell like coffee ice cream. I mixed something and will know in a week(steep, ugh) if it worked.
The only thing I see being an issue is that the msds info I posted earlier was actually for FA Cappuccino, not Tiramisu. Whoops
this is for FA Espresso
This is triamisu
Neither of those contains the triacetin, which I am almost POSITIVE is the problem. Actually the espresso would work REALLY well because benzyl alcohol is a flavor enhancer. It should boost the creamy ice cream notes. I think, and this is just a thought, that if we used FA espresso around .75% and then the WF Coffee or the Cappuccino around .25% this should erase the negative effects I'm getting.
SC Cappuccino is excellent and would probably work very well. There's a nice descriptive review on it at Bull City.
Looks like your recipe is coming together. My mouth is watering just thinking about it
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I'm going to do a few tests when I go home tonight. I don't have sc cappuccino or fa espresso, but I'll order those too.Looks like your recipe is coming together. My mouth is watering just thinking about it
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Right on, looking forward to hearing about your findings.
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I will try that for sure. I am getting forest fruit in from BCF tomorrow. Along with some white peach some blood orange and some candy wiz (all fa). I just got in pear, wf ripe pear, and a couple others too. SO, I have concluded that you absolutely can't even put the smallest amount of WF Brazilian coffee into the ice cream. I used .5% Tiramisu and 0.1% brazilian and it STILL mutes the ice cream tones.
I have to order it. I don't have it. The real question is, why can't making a good juice like coffee ice cream be as simple as adding a coffee concentrate and an ice cream concentrate and calling it a day?!?!?!?!??!?!
I know you don't have it, just a heads up when you do. 0.75% is rather high for that one.I have to order it. I don't have it. The real question is, why can't making a good juice like coffee ice cream be as simple as adding a coffee concentrate and an ice cream concentrate and calling it a day?!?!?!?!??!?!
I think purilium caramel coffee with sweet milk could be a good place to go for the coffee ice cream. For the oba oba I am going to try and pair it with pearI have to order it. I don't have it. The real question is, why can't making a good juice like coffee ice cream be as simple as adding a coffee concentrate and an ice cream concentrate and calling it a day?!?!?!?!??!?!
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