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Staggered fused claptons/staggered framed staple claptons

DeepInTheAbyss

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So i built my 1st staple today. People say framed staples are harder than framed staples but man oh man do i disagree. Anyways, i wanna try my hand at staggers. Surely if I can do staples i can do staggers right? You just gotta get the spacing right on the frames, whether it be fused or staple. I just wanna know one thing because i can never tell, because I dont know anyone in real life with this stuff. What is the appropriate stagger gauge and wrap gauge for it? Obviously 40 gauge wouldnt work. It takes the whole function out of it.
 

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I put some more thought into this, and have these two things to add:


Using 36g for your frames' stagger will separate the frames from the ribbon stack by 0.13 mm, whereas 40g will separate it by 0.08 mm. That seems like a small difference but the more space between the frames and staple, the harder it is to keep the frames from "rolling" over on top of the staple

If you want your fuse wire to rest above the staple rather than against/on it, use frames that are larger in diameter than the size of your ribbon - like 28g (0.32mm) with 0.3 ribbon, etc

This helps give that extra room for juice-holding that, I think, is the function you were talking about (and why you suspect 36g is needed)

Notice I'm focusing on how to Complete the build, because it is a different, more finnicky animal than a framed staple

With staggered frames and a staple core, it's called an SSFC - staple staggered fused clapton

If you do the opposite and stagger the staple core first, it's called a staggerton
 

DeepInTheAbyss

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Thank you for info and insight. I had only built a staple coil at the time of my last post, but now ive also built a framed staple coil. I have one seperate complaint about them. They taste metallic. Like i can taste a faint glorious blast of flavor trying to come through that tastes even better than my old fused claptons, but it breaks away into a metallic taste and ruins it for some reason. I dont know why its doing that. Staple was a 10 ply stack, all nichrome, .4 ribbon and 40 gauge wrap. Framed is a nichrome 4 ply .4 ribbon (small i know, was practicing), with 28 gauge kanthal frames and 40 gauge nichrome wire. I dont really think the mixing of metals is doing it, because the staple was pure nichrome .But I dont think the nichrome is doing it, because i made nichrome fused claptons prior and they were great. Dont really know whats going on.
 
It may be the NI80. I cannot stand the taste of NI80, but I only get the overpowering metallic taste on higher mass builds, otherwise it is not so bad. 316L is my preferred wire for taste, but I must say that NI80 sure is purty.
 

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