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I am looking for a new work tank. the innokin isub v I am using now, its ok, but I cannot take any more than a small mtl hit off it(which is ok enough most of the time), or else I get burnt cotton(I think that's what it is). I could just get another regular tank, but coil costs.

so, is there and RTA tank that doesn't leak or spill ?

I'm new and don't have a clue.
 

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The OBS Engine is top fill, doesn't leak. I like the v2 of that one, but about the only way to get them to leak is to open the top cap and lay it down. And we're not gonna do that. ;)
 

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All RTA's can leak under the right circumstances.
Some are lots more prone than others.
Of course the top airflow designed ones are less likely to leak than the bottom airflow ones.
but lay them down on their side get them hot in a car, pocket, etc and any can leak.
 

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ok, great. it doesn't need to be 100% leak proof. just so if its in my pocket or whatever and it lays down for a short while.
its going to be my portable unit. they don't come apart, like in a pocket ?

I like the OSB. can that be run 1 coil ?

any other suggestions are very welcome. thanx.

darn it. I should have put this thread in the RTA room, ooops. can a mod move it ? idk.
 

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ok, great. it doesn't need to be 100% leak proof. just so if its in my pocket or whatever and it lays down for a short while.
its going to be my portable unit. they don't come apart, like in a pocket ?

I like the OSB. can that be run 1 coil ?

any other suggestions are very welcome. thanx.

darn it. I should have put this thread in the RTA room, ooops. can a mod move it ? idk.
Augvape Intake is single coil/top af
 

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ok, great. it doesn't need to be 100% leak proof. just so if its in my pocket or whatever and it lays down for a short while.
its going to be my portable unit. they don't come apart, like in a pocket ?

I like the OSB. can that be run 1 coil ?

any other suggestions are very welcome. thanx.

darn it. I should have put this thread in the RTA room, ooops. can a mod move it ? idk.
I close the juice flow when I keep mine in my pocket, at work. It's a bottom airflow, no real issues, so far.
 

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A lot of it comes down to wicking. I don't have any single coil options off the top of my head, currently I'm using a manta which is a dual coil rta. It doesn't leak and it's bottom airflow, I can lay it on its side no problem. Only times I get a bit of seepage is when refilling. To be fair I don't close off the airflow ring so not sure if that might help. It doesn't have juice flow control which kinda sucks, wish more rta's had that like they used to. When I fill it up and cap it I just purge back through the rta into a paper towel and wipe up the little bit of juice that comes out. After that no more leaks. Now sure if I leave it on a table near a heater or something where the juice really warms up and thins out it will piss out the bottom a bit. I've left it sitting on top of a fence or gate post though in summer in 95F+ heat with the sun hitting it for 30-40min and doesn't leak.
 

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A lot of it comes down to wicking. I don't have any single coil options off the top of my head, currently I'm using a manta which is a dual coil rta. It doesn't leak and it's bottom airflow, I can lay it on its side no problem. Only times I get a bit of seepage is when refilling. To be fair I don't close off the airflow ring so not sure if that might help. It doesn't have juice flow control which kinda sucks, wish more rta's had that like they used to. When I fill it up and cap it I just purge back through the rta into a paper towel and wipe up the little bit of juice that comes out. After that no more leaks. Now sure if I leave it on a table near a heater or something where the juice really warms up and thins out it will piss out the bottom a bit. I've left it sitting on top of a fence or gate post though in summer in 95F+ heat with the sun hitting it for 30-40min and doesn't leak.
After you fill it, start threading the top cap and turn it upside down and tighten the rest of the way. No leaks at all. Small. Price to pay for the flavor the manta puts out. I wear a hoodie a lot and leave it sideways in the front pocket all the time. I never worry about it leaking because it just doesn't.
 

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Anything can leak, even you. However, most RTA's if built correctly will not leak. Every one of them have their own little nuances but the trick to making them work right is learning how to build and wick them like they need to be.
 

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Zeus and Intake are really nice for single coil RTAs. I enjoy both of them. I would say slightly better flavor on the Zeus, but easier wicking on the intake.
 

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I think I am going to get the Augvape Intake 24mm RTA $34 free ship

there are others I want, but I am throttling myself.
 

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I was just thinking (yeah, I do that sometimes). whaat watts am I going to need to fire this ? I know the coils make the difference.
this is planned for my Innokin Cool Fire 4 - 100W
can it do it ? or a new mod ?
 

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Ahh the Game of Vaping...

Get an atty too big for your mod, get a bigger mod.
Then decide that atty is not big enough for that mod...

Then after a while get a cute little atty and decide it looks silly on your honkin big mod...
 

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Anything can leak, even you. However, most RTA's if built correctly will not leak. Every one of them have their own little nuances but the trick to making them work right is learning how to build and wick them like they need to be.
^^^ This ^^^

Ahh the Game of Vaping...

Get an atty too big for your mod, get a bigger mod.
Then decide that atty is not big enough for that mod...

Then after a while get a cute little atty and decide it looks silly on your honkin big mod...
And ^^^ this ^^^ :D
 

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Ahh the Game of Vaping...

Get an atty too big for your mod, get a bigger mod.
Then decide that atty is not big enough for that mod...

Then after a while get a cute little atty and decide it looks silly on your honkin big mod...

lol, ok. so your saying I need a bigger mod ? just want to be sure. just to be clear, I am not going to be hitting this thing hard = mild MTL.
that innokin is almost good enough. maybe its the battery ?
 

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lol, ok. so your saying I need a bigger mod ? just want to be sure. just to be clear, I am not going to be hitting this thing hard = mild MTL.
that innokin is almost good enough. maybe its the battery ?


Nope that was mostly a jest post about how it goes for many vapers as they fall down the vaping rabbit hole so to speak.

I really do not know. Depends on how many watts that atty needs to give you the vape that you want.
A 100W mod should be fine to use regularly up to 60-75W without your battery dropping too low during vapes after it is about 1/2 fully charged.

If you are going to vape consistently above around 60W then I recommend a dual battery mod.

Many/most mods if ran close to their max wattage will start giving a low battery alert at arounf 1/2 charge remaining. This is due to the voltage output dropping under load from the battery which is very normal for a battery.

You can also minimize this by using a genuine mooch approved 25-30 amp CDR battery.
A good 20 amp CDR cell works best at under 75 W.

Only use good mooch approved OEM cells. Never rewraps.
Clue as to rewrap. 18650 cell that says anything over 30A on the wrapper or any 18650 that has over 20A on the wrapper and over 3000 mah.
Those cells do not exist in reality.


Note all wattages are approximations not hard line.
Mods/chipsets, batteries, etc vary.
 
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lol, ok. so your saying I need a bigger mod ? just want to be sure. just to be clear, I am not going to be hitting this thing hard = mild MTL.
that innokin is almost good enough. maybe its the battery ?
Looks like Intake will fit CoolFire 4 w/o overhang, but, it only has 2000mah built in battery. You won't need close to 100w for single coil, but building >.5Ω+ would help with battery charge. I thought you were using a new RTA on Luxe Mod??
 

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Looks like Intake will fit CoolFire 4 w/o overhang, but, it only has 2000mah built in battery. You won't need close to 100w for single coil, but building >.5Ω+ would help with battery charge. I thought you were using a new RTA on Luxe Mod??

internal 3300mAh battery.

no, this is for my work mod. less likely to get damaged, and less heartbreak if it does.

i don't care about overhang or anything like that.

the innokin has a 2ohm coil in it. if i could put a 1 - 1.5 coil in the INTAKE, i think that would be ideal. and if not, just change it.
is it possible to make a higher ohm coil ? idk, all i see are LOW sub ohm twists.
 

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Nope that was mostly a jest post about how it goes for many vapers as they fall down the vaping rabbit hole so to speak.

I really do not know. Depends on how many watts that atty needs to give you the vape that you want.
A 100W mod should be fine to use regularly up to 60-75W without your battery dropping too low during vapes after it is about 1/2 fully charged.

If you are going to vape consistently above around 60W then I recommend a dual battery mod.

Many/most mods if ran close to their max wattage will start giving a low battery alert at arounf 1/2 charge remaining. This is due to the voltage output dropping under load from the battery which is very normal for a battery.

You can also minimize this by using a genuine mooch approved 25-30 amp CDR battery.
A good 20 amp CDR cell works best at under 75 W.

Only use good mooch approved OEM cells. Never rewraps.
Clue as to rewrap. 18650 cell that says anything over 30A on the wrapper or any 18650 that has over 20A on the wrapper and over 3000 mah.
Those cells do not exist in reality.


Note all wattages are approximations not hard line.
Mods/chipsets, batteries, etc vary.


thanx.

yeah, i know about the rabbit hole. i have fallen into it, and will go deeper down. but once i have my gear and juices established i will try to level off. i am spending future cig money($25 a week) right now. after a little while i will be saving money.
 

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thanx.

yeah, i know about the rabbit hole. i have fallen into it, and will go deeper down. but once i have my gear and juices established i will try to level off. i am spending future cig money($25 a week) right now. after a little while i will be saving money.
For the first 6 months of vaping I spent about 1/2 of my monthly cig money ($135 4 years ago in KY where cigs are fairly cheap) on vaping acquisitions.
Went down to about 30% for the next several months.
I did however have something to show for it besides a pile of butts....

I now spend under $20/mo on consumables and have pretty much quit buying any hardware since I have enough to last me 30 years :)
Consumables are DIY supplies, wire , wick, and batteries.
I use no factory coil attys.
 

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internal 3300mAh battery.

no, this is for my work mod. less likely to get damaged, and less heartbreak if it does.

i don't care about overhang or anything like that.

the innokin has a 2ohm coil in it. if i could put a 1 - 1.5 coil in the INTAKE, i think that would be ideal. and if not, just change it.
is it possible to make a higher ohm coil ? idk, all i see are LOW sub ohm twists.
For your Intake coil(s), I'd suggest checking with a couple member builders, or get this 4 pack for about $10 shipped:
https://www.advancedvapesupply.com/products/316l-ss-alien-coils-28gx3-36g

AVS has a standing 20% code (AVS) and AVS25 is 25% off right now, and there may be a 30% one but I deleted that email, and they are good about promos for holidays.
If you get those 3 core SS Aliens, they don't have 3.0id in stock, but they have 3.5id/5wrap and you can use those as is, or if you pull it tight on a 3mm jig and add a wrap to make it 6(the legs are long enough) you'll end up with right about .28Ω and I vape those at 30-35 watts in single mode.
 
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internal 3300mAh battery.

no, this is for my work mod. less likely to get damaged, and less heartbreak if it does.

i don't care about overhang or anything like that.

the innokin has a 2ohm coil in it. if i could put a 1 - 1.5 coil in the INTAKE, i think that would be ideal. and if not, just change it.
is it possible to make a higher ohm coil ? idk, all i see are LOW sub ohm twists.
By the way you like to vape you may want to check out a more restrictive draw single coil rta instead of tanks designed for an airy sub ohm high wattage juice guzzling vape. Maybe check out The Vandy Vape berserker, berserker mini, EHPRO True MTL, Savour rta, Manta MTL, Hotcig centaur mini, SALT RTA, Vapefly galaxies mtl and the likes. Most of not all would be well suited for 1 ohm, and above and below. Maybe pick up a spool of 28g-30g stainless steel wire for 5$ and it could last you a year or more.
 

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By the way you like to vape you may want to check out a more restrictive draw single coil rta instead of tanks designed for an airy sub ohm high wattage juice guzzling vape. Maybe check out The Vandy Vape berserker, berserker mini, EHPRO True MTL, Savour rta, Manta MTL, Hotcig centaur mini, SALT RTA, Vapefly galaxies mtl and the likes. Most of not all would be well suited for 1 ohm, and above and below. Maybe pick up a spool of 28g-30g stainless steel wire for 5$ and it could last you a year or more.
Yep big cloud/airflow attys require big watts to work right and they will not work halfway right with a .7 + ohm coil in them.

Each atty has a range of power/watts it is designed to work with.
Lower airflow = lower watts, higher airflow = much more watts.
Cloud production is also pretty much directly proportional to applied wattage.

This is a generalization but pretty much true.
there are lots of factors such as the mass of the coil.
A 24ga coil will handle much more wattage than a 28 ga coil will...
More wattage require more airflow or it just burns up the wicking with the result being a dry hit from hell.
 
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By the way you like to vape you may want to check out a more restrictive draw single coil rta instead of tanks designed for an airy sub ohm high wattage juice guzzling vape. Maybe check out The Vandy Vape berserker, berserker mini, EHPRO True MTL, Savour rta, Manta MTL, Hotcig centaur mini, SALT RTA, Vapefly galaxies mtl and the likes. Most of not all would be well suited for 1 ohm, and above and below. Maybe pick up a spool of 28g-30g stainless steel wire for 5$ and it could last you a year or more.


well, too late now = just finished ordering. but that is ok, if it does not work, it will go into the newly started collection. then i will get what you recommend . and i may anyway.

i bought :
the INTAKE in black.
Wotofo x Mike Vapes Recurve 24mm BF RDA. cheap, saw a very good review of it(yeah, i know). its for testing new juices.

and,

wait

for


it,

a Coil Master DIY Full Kit V3

further down the rabbit hole i go .............................
 

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I have my Kylin Mini wicked for chain vaping and it still doesn't leak. Same with my Crius 2. Pretty impressed and surprised at that. Now if I store them in my bag and leave the airflow fully open they will probably leak out of the top but that's it. In my pocket they've been good.
 

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my cigs were $75 a carton. about 1/2 pack a day. i actually smoked 1/2 a cig at a time
Ouch
When I switched to smoking cigs were around $4.50 for 20pk Marlboro.
I smoked a cheaper brand that were $34 / carton and smoked at least a carton per week.
I think they are now closer to $6 a pack for Marlboro.
Fairly cheap cigs in KY.
 

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this state, IL, SUCKS. taxs are sooo fucking HIGH. i would evacuate if i could.

years ago, i would drive to Indiana, bout 1 hr. and buy cigs, 10-15+ cartons, and fill the gas tank. saved a bunch of money.
then Indiana raised prices nearly as high as here.
 

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...a Coil Master DIY Full Kit V3

further down the rabbit hole i go .............................

I'm not sorry I bought mine. Now you need a solid single high amp 18650 like THIS to power your new ohm reader. May as well grab a pair or two of THESE and some of THESE while you're there too.:wait:
 
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By the way you like to vape you may want to check out a more restrictive draw single coil rta instead of tanks designed for an airy sub ohm high wattage juice guzzling vape. Maybe check out The Vandy Vape berserker, berserker mini, EHPRO True MTL, Savour rta, Manta MTL, Hotcig centaur mini, SALT RTA, Vapefly galaxies mtl and the likes. Most of not all would be well suited for 1 ohm, and above and below. Maybe pick up a spool of 28g-30g stainless steel wire for 5$ and it could last you a year or more.

This ^^^ is very good advice IMO.

My all day vape at work when I keep my rig in my pants pocket all day is a Pico 75 watt mod with a DoggyStyle RTA. I set that up to vape well at around 14-15 watts and one 18650 batt lasts me for around the 10 - 12 hours I sometimes need it for. A lot of the tanks mentioned above will IMO be very good also, but I just don't have any experience with them.

The build I've got in it right now is a single 27 gauge SS coil, 4 wraps, reads 0.39 ohms and I've got the air flow wide open for what I consider a nice restricted lung hit vape. IMO it will do an acceptable MTL vape too. The Doggy has a couple of quirks, but once you know how to handle them it is pretty much fool proof. A little experience with atties is good here, I wouldn't recommend this setup for a new vaper. In the last year and a half it has never leaked in my pocket and has never failed me in any other way even after drooping it a few times onto a concrete floor. That works for me, but as always, your millage may vary :)
 

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I'm not sorry I bought mine. Now you need a solid single high amp 18650 like THIS to power your new ohm reader. May as well grab a pair or two of THESE and some of THESE while you're there too.:wait:


thanx for the links. is there a charger that is better than my, what I think is, 1A per ? it takes a pretty long time to charge not even LOW batts. plus, I should have a backup charger.

lol = vid
 

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if you don't mind the price. THIS has served me well, albeit for only the few months I've had it.

Not just a charger. Has a bunch of useful functions. One POSSIBLE drawback is that it WILL charge 4 batteries at an amp each or 2 at 2 amps each, but the power adapter is only rated at 3 amps. I regularly charge pairs at 1.5 amps each with no issues. @Jon@LiionWholesale has a lot of experience using it and is from the excellent website I linked and may have more insight.

At any rate, you are undeniably a tinker junkie and would have a blast with it.
 

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thanx for the links. is there a charger that is better than my, what I think is, 1A per ? it takes a pretty long time to charge not even LOW batts. plus, I should have a backup charger.
What charger do you have? I have more than 1 but didn't get any of them just to have a back up. 1A is what I use since the next up is 2A and all the time could shorten battery life some.. Do you need more slots?
 

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I rarely charge higher than 1 amp. And most times 700 ma. The Opus does 200, 500, 700, 1 amp, 1.5 and 2.

Well that's not exactly true. I DO use the 1.5 with some regularity. When I'm in more of a hurry .
 

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What charger do you have? I have more than 1 but didn't get any of them just to have a back up. 1A is what I use since the next up is 2A and all the time could shorten battery life some.. Do you need more slots?

I have a NITECORE inttellicharger i2 2014 version.

no, I don't need more slots. didn't know that faster charging shortened life. but you know how this hobby is = backups.
 

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I figured out why my innokin tank was giving weak hits. the coil. when I bough it and the extra coils, the tank had a BVC coil in it. so I left it started using it. the hits were not bad, pretty good for a FNG. . I switched to the other coils = downhill. I thought they were the same coils = nope.
so I put a bran new BVC coil in it, letting the juice soak in now. will try it soon.
 

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I have a NITECORE inttellicharger i2 2014 version.

no, I don't need more slots. didn't know that faster charging shortened life. but you know how this hobby is = backups.
Mooch has a video on this. Get familiar with him. Seriously.
 

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I have a NITECORE inttellicharger i2 2014 version.

no, I don't need more slots. didn't know that faster charging shortened life. but you know how this hobby is = backups.
I also have one of these and it only does .5 amps(500ma) for two batteries btw. A full amp only if using a single slot with one battery.
 

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I also have one of these and it only does .5 amps for two batteries btw.

well shit ... no wonder I couldn't find this info. nowhere on the box/info that I could find. oh-well, no biggie. I will get a new one, and this one will be the backup. but this is actually good, the new one will be faster. not that its a real issue as it is.


BTW. MORE dead in SHITcago. it never ends. good thing = its not around me.
 

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Not trying to tell you how to spend your money, but the Sony VTC5a is a first rate 25 amp cdr 18650 for vaping (overall) and can be had for 6 bucks apiece right now at that site. Having extra sets of batteries is a fabulous idea.
 

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btw. what do those battery wraps do ?
If your wrap becomes damaged or worn, it is easy to re-wrap them yourself. With these kinds of batteries, the middle button on the + end is the only positive contact point and the entire outer can is a live negative contact. You DO NOT want these shorting against each other which is what the wrap does. It insulates the negative can except for the end where you need it open to complete the circuit.

This is battery safety 101 and learning these things is priority one. Seriously. These batteries can hurt you if mishandled or not maintained properly.

Watch Mooch's videos. Fantastic service he provides to the community. He is a 20 year professional in the battery industry.
 

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I'm grateful that the guy who sold me my first mod sold me a good set of authentic VTC5a's and beat me over the head about battery safety before I left his shop. Mooch is also ALL about safety. Just trying to be a good citizen here :)
 

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