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Well, I';m screaming today for a completely different reason: MY AIR CONDITIONER IS BROKEN!!!!!!!! ARGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! I swear to god, no idea what fucking karma storm has hit us this summer, but I'll be glad when it's over -- first my hard drive, then my dishwasher -- then over the weekend I discovered that we're gonna have to replace that damn dryer, since now it won't shut off at all when you open it, you can't even flip the lil switch, you have to just turn the dial to off.... and now the fucking air conditioner. I was here online, and thought, why's it so fucking hot in here? go look, and though it's set at 74, it was 77 degrees in here. Now it's 79. The ONLY mercy is that it's kinda cloudy, and only 84 today, and maybe about to rain. And we still have 3 window unit ACs in the garage from that last house we rented which had a broken AC, and I'll be getting my husband to get one setup in here in my room when he gets home; told the son, if he was really sweet to his ol man, he might set one up in his room too. So, fast food tonight, so I don't make it any hotter in here. Got about $780 available credit on my VISA, but if it's gonna cost more than that, it'll have to wait till the mate gets his SS pmt on the 26th.
GODDAMN IT ALL TO HELL AND BACK!!!!!!!!!!!! Guess I'll have to stick it out with the damn dryer for a while.
Very hot, and NOT in a good way...
Andria
GODDAMN IT ALL TO HELL AND BACK!!!!!!!!!!!! Guess I'll have to stick it out with the damn dryer for a while.
Very hot, and NOT in a good way...
Andria
Door switch on the dryer. 80% probability.Well, I';m screaming today for a completely different reason: MY AIR CONDITIONER IS BROKEN!!!!!!!! ARGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! I swear to god, no idea what fucking karma storm has hit us this summer, but I'll be glad when it's over -- first my hard drive, then my dishwasher -- then over the weekend I discovered that we're gonna have to replace that damn dryer, since now it won't shut off at all when you open it, you can't even flip the lil switch, you have to just turn the dial to off.... and now the fucking air conditioner. I was here online, and thought, why's it so fucking hot in here? go look, and though it's set at 74, it was 77 degrees in here. Now it's 79. The ONLY mercy is that it's kinda cloudy, and only 84 today, and maybe about to rain. And we still have 3 window unit ACs in the garage from that last house we rented which had a broken AC, and I'll be getting my husband to get one setup in here in my room when he gets home; told the son, if he was really sweet to his ol man, he might set one up in his room too. So, fast food tonight, so I don't make it any hotter in here. Got about $780 available credit on my VISA, but if it's gonna cost more than that, it'll have to wait till the mate gets his SS pmt on the 26th.
GODDAMN IT ALL TO HELL AND BACK!!!!!!!!!!!! Guess I'll have to stick it out with the damn dryer for a while.
Very hot, and NOT in a good way...
Andria
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It being defective/broken is very likely to cause a dryer to not shut off.
Could also be relay or controller issue.
My vote is on the switch though. A mechanical device that takes a fair beating.
Well, I';m screaming today for a completely different reason: MY AIR CONDITIONER IS BROKEN!!!!!!!! ARGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! I swear to god, no idea what fucking karma storm has hit us this summer, but I'll be glad when it's over -- first my hard drive, then my dishwasher -- then over the weekend I discovered that we're gonna have to replace that damn dryer, since now it won't shut off at all when you open it, you can't even flip the lil switch, you have to just turn the dial to off.... and now the fucking air conditioner. I was here online, and thought, why's it so fucking hot in here? go look, and though it's set at 74, it was 77 degrees in here. Now it's 79. The ONLY mercy is that it's kinda cloudy, and only 84 today, and maybe about to rain. And we still have 3 window unit ACs in the garage from that last house we rented which had a broken AC, and I'll be getting my husband to get one setup in here in my room when he gets home; told the son, if he was really sweet to his ol man, he might set one up in his room too. So, fast food tonight, so I don't make it any hotter in here. Got about $780 available credit on my VISA, but if it's gonna cost more than that, it'll have to wait till the mate gets his SS pmt on the 26th.
GODDAMN IT ALL TO HELL AND BACK!!!!!!!!!!!! Guess I'll have to stick it out with the damn dryer for a while.
Very hot, and NOT in a good way...
Andria
I know what ya mean. When it rains, it fuckin pours.
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Well yeah, it's that switch, but there's no way to get at it, unless my husband a) takes the dryer from the laundry room to the garage (a difficult chore in itself in a room that tiny); b) lays the dryer on its side or head; c) tries to figure out how to get the front plate off the dryer to get at the switch. And that's IF that switch is the only problem, which we can't know unless we go thru all the above. It's 10 yrs old. He and I both feel that $300-ish for a new one is probably $300-ish well spent. But now we got this goddamned AC problem to resolve, which might be even more costly. Hopefully it can be repaired, but if not, if we need a new system, he does have good credit now, so hopefully the HVAC company we called who'll be here tomorrow between 10-3 will do their own financing.
He got one of the window units installed in my bedroom, so at least I can breathe and I'll be able to sleep tonight. It never did rain today, but it only got to about 85, with the partly-cloudy weather, so that's a good thing. However it's still very humid, hence needing the window AC just so I can breathe. Asthma is no fucking joke ANYTIME, but especially in high humidity.
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I have used the same clothes dryer for well over 30 years.
Replaced over the years.
Motor, several belts, Drum supports.
Maybe $200 in parts
Still works great.
With most dryers the top pops loose in the front. Then top can be swung up and you can look down in there and maybe see the switch (depends on model)
2 people are best esp if you remove the front and the drum is loose. I always did it by myself though.
I am sure there are youtube videos that will hael with dryer repair without using a big hammer or dynamite.
Also there are appliance repair services...
Replaced over the years.
Motor, several belts, Drum supports.
Maybe $200 in parts
Still works great.
With most dryers the top pops loose in the front. Then top can be swung up and you can look down in there and maybe see the switch (depends on model)
2 people are best esp if you remove the front and the drum is loose. I always did it by myself though.
I am sure there are youtube videos that will hael with dryer repair without using a big hammer or dynamite.
Also there are appliance repair services...
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Well, if I knew how, I'd fix it myself. But I don't know how to repair anything, it's really not my metier; he's the repair guy in the family, and if he doesn't wanna, there isn't much I can do about it, except just buy a new one. Depending on how things go today with the AC, I may have to wait an extra month, so maybe I can persuade him to give it a try, but I'm not holding my breath.
Aside from the top "lid", there's the "control" "block", at the back of the top, and in order to get that top "lid" off, you'd have to also first remove that "block" where the controls are -- it's not all one piece. But the door's switch is in the front, not the top. In order to take ANY of it apart, you'd have to have it in a place where it can be moved around, put on its side or its front or its head... and the laundry room absolutely isn't that space, you can barely turn around in there! So, you'd have to disconnect it from the vent... somehow get it out of that tiny room, to move it to the garage... and only then be able to do ANYTHING with it. Hell, just moving it out so we can put a new one in there will be a real challenge!
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Aside from the top "lid", there's the "control" "block", at the back of the top, and in order to get that top "lid" off, you'd have to also first remove that "block" where the controls are -- it's not all one piece. But the door's switch is in the front, not the top. In order to take ANY of it apart, you'd have to have it in a place where it can be moved around, put on its side or its front or its head... and the laundry room absolutely isn't that space, you can barely turn around in there! So, you'd have to disconnect it from the vent... somehow get it out of that tiny room, to move it to the garage... and only then be able to do ANYTHING with it. Hell, just moving it out so we can put a new one in there will be a real challenge!
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The dryer top hinges upwards Andria. Every front load dryer I ever worked on there is two spring loaded tabs that fit into the face of the dryer or as some call it, the front plate. Pop a screw driver next to each one and it pops right up. At times it takes a little effort and you might have to slide the dryer out around 6 inches so you have clearance on the control section from hitting the wall but its usually real easy. Switch is very easy to get to from there.
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Hey, that's really good to know! I'll show my husband that pic, and maybe he can repair that stupid little switch.
The AC man was just here, and the news is not good. The AC is a lot older than we thought, circa 1999, and naturally, one of the old-style freon type. He said that all the repairs it needs, the cost would be around $1000. Since a new one would be around $4000, it may be that we just need to get a new one, since that one is so old, and nearly past being able to be repaired at all, given the old-type freon coolant. However he did replace the condenser today, so that, plus the svc charge, was $311. But I talked to the ol man, and he thinks we could get a new AC elsewhere for a better price, so I didn't commit to anything. The new condenser did get it back to blowing cool air, so (crossing fingers toes and everything else I have two of!) hopefully it will last at least another 6-ish weeks, i.e., thru the rest of the warm weather.
If we can finish out 2018 without anything else major going tits-up, I will be delighted.
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From what your telling me, the guy is jerking your chain. He put a $10 condenser on either the fan, the outside fan or the compressor and seen a chance to make a hell of a commission selling you a new one. I have worked on may AC units including adding freon to a system. I use to be certified for it and had to pass a battery of test for the qualification (all for one helicopter we had with a freon AC that I never seen
). If its blowing cold like normal than there isnt a damn reason in the world to replace it.
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I'm just funning with you. Glad folks here offer up any kind of help for any situation at near any hour of the day. Not bothered with anyone being upset over machines breaking, people breaking, or whatever anyone might be upset over. It's life, we all hoe hard furrows. 
*nodding* I think somebody once told me this in another manner. They said to me, "oh, yeah welcome to life that's what it does." Then they asked if I knew what to do if it kicks you on your ass. I dusted off, got back up, leaped up and landed back in the saddle to go again.
My poor little no ass, ass though is getting all kinds of creaky. I might need to let my witch, erm wife get me some of that joint medicine, as in knees, hips, knuckles. Bioflex I hear is eh, okay. I'll figure sumpin, gotta keep getting back up.
Wow, something else me, you, Bob have in common, ... clothes dryer repair. I've also sat toilets as in putting them in to fit. Everyone is now going to silicone floor seals. I think that is a total crime despite understanding a desire to not agitate bees. Beeswax is the best way to seal a ceramic, or even fiberglass toilet to the floor.
Silicone or rubber will wear out after some time, gotta call a plumber. Beeswax goes no where and in fact seals more solidly with temperature, humidity variations as it organically breathes. Also fixed toilet tank issues, have fixed showers, helped rewire a house and hook it back up to an external electric box, passing inspection and code by leaps and bounds.
Shit happens, you fix it.
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There's no doubt for me. I have had the Holy Spirit, the Great Comforter get me through the years. I have "heard" Him speak from within. I knew my mother would die at the age of 84. I knew my son would have a little girl. There have been many things "told" to me since I was a child. And I feel comforted that after this little whisp of a life, because of what He did, and nothing I did..or could do...........or deserve, I'll see my loved ones that have gone on from here again.
Harry licked my hand this morning instead of ripping it to shreds. One day at a time I suppose.
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I am genuinely happy for you in that have such belief and faith.
It seems not all of us may, or can. That's alright though I still believe in the great Light. Just not sure the universe itself is or is not a living being. I'm still puzzling.
Google the dryer switch for your brand and watch a youtube video. I did it last year and the switch costs about $10-20 bucks. It's easy as shit to change in place if that's the problem. Hurricane Harvey came along right after I fixed it and flooded the damn thing. That's what I get for living on a flooding lake Good Luck
BTW - I made some of your Strawberry Cream. Mighty tasty!
Good LuckBTW - I made some of your Strawberry Cream. Mighty tasty!
Before changing the switch do the DIAGNOSTICS and remove the switch to test if it is normally open or closed and jump it or disconnect a lead BEFORE Buying a switch it might not need and you most probably cannot return electrical components.
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From what your telling me, the guy is jerking your chain. He put a $10 condenser on either the fan, the outside fan or the compressor and seen a chance to make a hell of a commission selling you a new one. I have worked on may AC units including adding freon to a system. I use to be certified for it and had to pass a battery of test for the qualification (all for one helicopter we had with a freon AC that I never seen
You may be right, but even $311 is ok, to get the AC back on. As for replacing it... I dunno. We're gonna get some other opinions and see what's what. Our son is good friends with a kid whose dad works for that same AC company (which was just bought by another company, and now the friend's dad is not happy with 'em because they're so "sales oriented", so you might be 500% correct). So we're gonna show the pics that the guy emailed me to this kid's dad, and see what he thinks.
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ETA: I did get him to commit to, if the new compressor didn't work, he wouldn't charge me for it -- before I let him put it on!
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Google the dryer switch for your brand and watch a youtube video. I did it last year and the switch costs about $10-20 bucks. It's easy as shit to change in place if that's the problem. Hurricane Harvey came along right after I fixed it and flooded the damn thing. That's what I get for living on a flooding lake
BTW - I made some of your Strawberry Cream. Mighty tasty!
Cool, glad you like it! It's been my ADV for nearly 4 yrs now, though i've dropped the percentages considerably -- now just UNDER 24%.
The repairing-in-place is the biggest issue here -- he's real handy with repairing all sorta shit, especially electric switches -- it's the getting to it, and being able to do it without having to drag the dryer outta that tiny room, that's the big issue. So I'll show him chopdoc's pic above and see what he thinks. It does seem stupid even to me to spend $300 on a new dryer just 'cuz of a $10 switch.
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Most central air systems never used R12 for refrigerant so being it was 1999 if it isn't R22 like most it would be R134 since R12 was banned around 1994. Was doing R12 to E134 conversions for years and it can be done to a central air system. You are being jerked with him saying it is the "old" refrigerant.
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Ok! I finally got thru my husband's THICK, THICK skull, he looked at the pic, figured out how to open the damn dryer top, found the problem part, which is a solenoid switch -- we found that part on amazon, $7.89, PRIME, so it'll be here Friday.
God, I love the internet.
THANK YOU CHOPPIE!!!!!
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THANK YOU CHOPPIE!!!!!
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The estimate says it's R22. Apparentl;y that's gonna be phased out by Dec 2019?
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Xactly....9 times out of 10 it's a start or run capacitor.....like Doc said, $10.00 for the part. Those bastards will upsell to someone not in the know....fucking buzzards....!From what your telling me, the guy is jerking your chain. He put a $10 condenser on either the fan, the outside fan or the compressor and seen a chance to make a hell of a commission selling you a new one. I have worked on may AC units including adding freon to a system. I use to be certified for it and had to pass a battery of test for the qualification (all for one helicopter we had with a freon AC that I never seen
2020 Andria....so yes....end of Dec 2019
R22 is being phased out worldwide because of its harmful effects on the ozone layer. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has set January 1, 2020 as the date when R22 becomes illegal in the United States.
After that date, R22 cannot be manufactured in the U.S. and it cannot be imported. R22 still in use in commercial HVAC systems will not be affected.
And like R12 there is a replacement
After that date, R22 cannot be manufactured in the U.S. and it cannot be imported. R22 still in use in commercial HVAC systems will not be affected.
And like R12 there is a replacement
Yep illegal to manufacture in or import into the USA.
If some one still has some after that date they can sell and use it but it will NOT be cheap.
When I owned an Auto Repair Shop and R12 was being phased out we stockpiled, sort sort of like you Apocalypse whiners and R22 will be available for many many years if the A/C guys have any brains. I still have 30 Lbs of R12 sitting in my basement which I don't have a use for. I did have a use for it at one time but got rid of those vehicles.
Boy since I don't do residential or commercial A/C work this made me research the R22 ban. There is already more Drop In Replacements than when R12 was phased out. Some not requiring changing the oil to POE or adding a compatible oil to form a blend~! I wonder if the licenses I got for R12/134 are applicable to doing A/C work with R44 or the other replacements~! LMFAO
I used to buy R22 for a bit over $1/pound.
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So, I guess sometime this winter, we really ought to get a new AC system, but now that it's working again, and there's probably only about 6-ish more weeks of warm weather, it's not an emergency, we can take our time and shop around to get a good system for a good price. This one is a Trane, which may be why it has lasted so long with so little trouble. But I DON'T want to go into another warm season with an iffy AC, not with the kind of heat we have here, and my utter dependence on the dehumidifying for my asthma.
The current system is a 2.5 ton, 30,000 BTU, and prices online indicate we should be able to get that for something around $2500. We could save up for that, from the mate's SS, so we don;t have to finance it.
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The current system is a 2.5 ton, 30,000 BTU, and prices online indicate we should be able to get that for something around $2500. We could save up for that, from the mate's SS, so we don;t have to finance it.
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As long as the compressor keep working your fine....but like you said, I wouldn't want something to pop next June either.......you will have to replace the outdoor and indoor coils when it shits the bed....might be more than $2500.
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That was my thought too, about doing it in the winter. But I don't want to just replace the coils and leave it with that R22 stuff, since that's gonna be phased out. A whole new system is what it needs. And it's a good investment for the property, to protect and enhance resale value. And, getting something energy-efficient may give us a tax credit, which would also be great.
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All new A/C units require R410A refrigerant....so when it shits the bed, it's time for a new one, inside and outside, unless you have a package unit on the roof, which is common here in AZ, then you only need the one unit.
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With a new compressor, you should have no problems getting 20 more years from it. Seriously, that is the heart of your AC unit. An AC unit also has two blowers and two sets of coils. In a nut shell, thats it. You coulds always save up that much and ten years from now go on a nice vacation
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With a new compressor, you should have no problems getting 20 more years from it. Seriously, that is the heart of your AC unit. An AC unit also has two blowers and two sets of coils. In a nut shell, thats it. You coulds always save up that much and ten years from now go on a nice vacation
Why would I wanna go anywhere, when I have this beautiful home of my own? I hate travelling. Buncha asswipes telling you what and how and when and where. I like MY OWN HOUSE, where I can do what I want, when I want, the way I want. Hell I don't even like restaurants or movies! But I'm not gonna go thru another summer with an iffy AC, no way, no how, no sir. I need to be able to depend on cool, dehumidified air, the way my husband needs to depend on a truck that starts first time, everytime - which is why we finance our vehicles and never pay them off, so we always have a budget for a car note.
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With freon, from what I heard a few times, there was no way possible for us to produce or vent enough R12 or R22 to create a hole in the ozone the size of a gnats ass. Yet they made billions upon billions on the new refrigerants. Are the new refrigerants superior? Yes, they are. Yet there really isnt anything wrong with the old stuff. It worked.
Can an older unit run on the newer refrigerants, yes they can and usually it will be more efficient. I can take an AC unit like Andria's, pump it down to a good vacuum and service it with R134 and it would run just fine. If the guy actually replaced Andria's compressor then he should of serviced it with the newer approved refrigerant.
Can an older unit run on the newer refrigerants, yes they can and usually it will be more efficient. I can take an AC unit like Andria's, pump it down to a good vacuum and service it with R134 and it would run just fine. If the guy actually replaced Andria's compressor then he should of serviced it with the newer approved refrigerant.
I highly doubt he replaced the compressor, not for 300 and change. Probably a high priced capacitor.
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With a new compressor, you should have no problems getting 20 more years from it. Seriously, that is the heart of your AC unit. An AC unit also has two blowers and two sets of coils. In a nut shell, thats it. You coulds always save up that much and ten years from now go on a nice vacation
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Yes, that's it! On the invoice it says "Dual Power Factor Enhancing Component -- A DPFEC is like a battery used store electricity and give motors a boost when they need to start. From normal usage a capacitor may become worn and need to be replaced."
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Thats a capacitor. It stores energy to give the motors or the compressor that initial umph to start them up.
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*nodding* I think somebody once told me this in another manner. They said to me, "oh, yeah welcome to life that's what it does." Then they asked if I knew what to do if it kicks you on your ass. I dusted off, got back up, leaped up and landed back in the saddle to go again.
My poor little no ass, ass though is getting all kinds of creaky. I might need to let my witch, erm wife get me some of that joint medicine, as in knees, hips, knuckles. Bioflex I hear is eh, okay. I'll figure sumpin, gotta keep getting back up.
Wow, something else me, you, Bob have in common, ... clothes dryer repair. I've also sat toilets as in putting them in to fit. Everyone is now going to silicone floor seals. I think that is a total crime despite understanding a desire to not agitate bees. Beeswax is the best way to seal a ceramic, or even fiberglass toilet to the floor.
Silicone or rubber will wear out after some time, gotta call a plumber. Beeswax goes no where and in fact seals more solidly with temperature, humidity variations as it organically breathes. Also fixed toilet tank issues, have fixed showers, helped rewire a house and hook it back up to an external electric box, passing inspection and code by leaps and bounds.
Shit happens, you fix it.
My dad taught me to troubleshoot stuff when I was a kid. If it broke, we fixed it. AC, cars, plumbing, electrical, we did it all. When he passed away back in 95 I learned enough from him where I drew up plans for a 2 bedroom house then took some of his insurance money and built this house for my mom. I did it all, framed it, roofed it, wired it, plumbed it, drywalled and finished it and painted it. All things I learned growing up. I spent around $13K to build it, my mom lived in it for 21 years and we sold it recently for $50K. Not too bad in my opinion
Yet life is a cruel bitch. Went thru everything with my sis passing away only to have my hernia's kick my ass last couple days. Tonight is the first time I was able to eat anything solid in the last 48 hours. Tried a can of chicken noodle soup last night. The broth was great, the noodles doubled me up. Tonight I was able to handle a couple scrambled eggs without much pain so it might be about over. I been down this road before. My body cant handle a lot of gas anymore thanks to quacks and it decided to flare up this weekend. Nothing like getting kicked when your down.
You might get some bad weather out of this Andria.
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Yeah it's looking like N.-central GA may get some heavy rain, but that's about it... and we're well into the piedmont here, so I don't think this particular location in Gwinnett county will get much flash flooding -- though the road my husband's work is on is crossed by a big storm-catchment pond, at "this" end, so he might have to go around the long way, Mon-Tues. Back in 2009 when GA's 10 yr drought came to a very wet end, he had to do that, the pond flooded the whole road, on this end of it.
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Filter capacitor.
Don't forget installing water heaters!
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That comes along after building moonshine stills. *grin* Got an older goat explaining something to me about hickory and condensation *cough* and how it might help avoid revenuers. *cough* Damn too much vapor from my mod & not enough
yet. I ought to be writing a book, The New Foxfire A Practical Guide To Living As A Wild Man Hillbilly.