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RSZ1

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Anybody here have experience with the Mi-Pod?

Tightness/openness of the draw (compared to what you are using in the BB [or otherwise] for context) and reliability are what I was looking for...

I am so confused now.

BB is fine, but I feel like I am still chasing something and cant put my finger on it.

A cigarette. :giggle:
 

derrickfosgate

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The only thing i worry about is i vape 50mg in my juul i hope the mf bridge is restricted enough to not kill me every hit i take
I gotta tell you guys (and gals too), the MF bridge is the end-all for my idea of MTL vape. The BB was purchased with MTL in mind ( all three of them) and now I'm a happy camper. The MyBlu put another bee in my bonnet so I ended up buying a JustFog c601 and a Minifit. Not bad for what they are, but the BB rules for MTL.

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MrMeowgi

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I've got a pack euc 1.3 if anyone wants them. Shipping from NC. Can ship tomorrow afternoon. Say 5 for shipping and all. Just won't use them. Thought they'd be the same size as the .5 but they're not. I don't have the sleeve though. I bought the .5 for the adapter. So I'll just use those in the a-tank

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troydestroy

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I've got a pack euc 1.3 if anyone wants them. Shipping from NC. Can ship tomorrow afternoon. Say 5 for shipping and all. Just won't use them. Thought they'd be the same size as the .5 but they're not. I don't have the sleeve though. I bought the .5 for the adapter. So I'll just use those in the a-tank

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I'll take if still available
 

R3alJim Shady

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Using the white adapter for the MTL coils will be restricted enough. If in doubt, dilute your juice in half.
So you can use the white adapter on the larger coils to restrict the air as well? If that's the case I might like the bridge even more than I thought.

Also what is the vg/pg ratio of the juice you're using with the Drizzle coils?

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BrewBear

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So you can use the white adapter on the larger coils to restrict the air as well? If that's the case I might like the bridge even more than I thought.

Also what is the vg/pg ratio of the juice you're using with the Drizzle coils?

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As far as I can tell, the white delrin bits only work with the 1.3/1.4 ohm coils. I use 50/50 juice, have been using it since forever. I am considering a 85/15 or even 90/10 PG/VG for the Minifit pods, these suckers are the size of a flash drive and would make a great stealth vape. Honestly, I han't tried any other coil/bridge permutations, I was very happy with the MTL I got and stuck with it.
 

R3alJim Shady

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As far as I can tell, the white delrin bits only work with the 1.3/1.4 ohm coils. I use 50/50 juice, have been using it since forever. I am considering a 85/15 or even 90/10 PG/VG for the Minifit pods, these suckers are the size of a flash drive and would make a great stealth vape.
Okay I'm using 60/40 so that should work just fine I think.

Would be nice if the adapter work on the bigger coils to restrict the air too. Oh well, that's why we have Troy!

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Mykreign

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Honestly, simple 3mm 5 wrap spaced 26g Kanthal has worked for me each time... .77 can add another wrap for .85ish

I've built Micro Aliens and Fused for it, but always has some dry hits...so I stick the simple wire in and enjoy.
Off topic but I believe you were the one that said you have to rewick your exocet every day?

I'm wondering why that is and if that's the issue I'm having as well.

Do your coils get gunked up or cotton dry up?

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~Don~

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Off topic but I believe you were the one that said you have to rewick your exocet every day?

I'm wondering why that is and if that's the issue I'm having as well.

Do your coils get gunked up or cotton dry up?

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When I get the Exocet/Insider wicked perfect, I tend to vape the shit out of it... excessively so...like 2-4 tanks in that day lol... So there is that... If I relaxed vaped them, I'd probably have to rewick every other day.

Coils don't get "Gunked" but they do get normal dirty...plus I tend rewick even my RSAs on the slight flavor shift... but on them, its much easier to do, pop the top and viola, you're already half way there lol

Like the Insider I wicked up yesterday... I am on tank 4 already lol... powering through the flavor shift, but I know it needs to be changed...probably finish off the tank and "TRY" to get it pimping again.
 

Mykreign

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When I get the Exocet/Insider wicked perfect, I tend to vape the shit out of it... excessively so...like 2-4 tanks in that day lol... So there is that... If I relaxed vaped them, I'd probably have to rewick every other day.

Coils don't get "Gunked" but they do get normal dirty...plus I tend rewick even my RSAs on the slight flavor shift... but on them, its much easier to do, pop the top and viola, you're already half way there lol

Like the Insider I wicked up yesterday... I am on tank 4 already lol... powering through the flavor shift, but I know it needs to be changed...probably finish off the tank and "TRY" to get it pimping again.
Gotcha, thanks. I've been going through 2 tanks a day. I rewicked last night, it Vaped awesome, then today, harsh hits. That's happened twice now. When I take the cotton out, the part of the cotton that's inside the coil is dry.

So it's probably my wicking. I just rewicked again and it seems to be fine. Time will tell.

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~Don~

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Gotcha, thanks. I've been going through 2 tanks a day. I rewicked last night, it Vaped awesome, then today, harsh hits. That's happened twice now. When I take the cotton out, the part of the cotton that's inside the coil is dry.

So it's probably my wicking. I just rewicked again and it seems to be fine. Time will tell.

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Its the nature of both the insider and exo... the perfect amount of wick, is almost no wick lol

Like with the Exo... I'll have it slightly snug in the coil...then fluff out the tails...drop the cap over the tails...and cut the wicks really close to the cap...fluff again, and slowly prime each side a few drops at a time

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Mykreign

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Its the nature of both the insider and exo... the perfect amount of wick, is almost no wick lol

Like with the Exo... I'll have it slightly snug in the coil...then fluff out the tails...drop the cap over the tails...and cut the wicks really close to the cap...fluff again, and slowly prime each side a few drops at a time

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Yeah, sound like I've had too much wick all 3 times. This is what I have now.
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~Don~

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Yeah, sound like I've had too much wick all 3 times. This is what I have now.
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Yeah, I try not to have the dog ears hit the edge of the boro, since the "Capillary" action is from the ends more so than the body of the wick...could be full of shit...and I'm over thinking it...but its what I do
 

BrewBear

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Thinking about picking up a KF Prime or KF5 and both places have the nano kits...thinking KF5 since its more the DL of the KF's from my understanding
I have? a KF5 clone, it is the the one you'd want for a airier (is that even a word?) draw, it definitely was a departure from the KF mtl draw.
 

MrMeowgi

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Let's try the insider again. So little wick it might as well pour in from the bottom. Lol. Just basically laid the cotton on the juice holes. Super trimmed like a hot date.

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~Don~

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I have? a KF5 clone, it is the the one you'd want for a airier (is that even a word?) draw, it definitely was a departure from the KF mtl draw.

Good to know my research was correct about the versions.

Missed out on Kkens deal he had on one the other week...but I was on the fence then about buying RTAs and mechs...

But I bought a new Gus and Skyline lol


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BrewBear

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Good to know my research was correct about the versions.

Missed out on Kkens deal he had on one the other week...but I was on the fence then about buying RTAs and mechs...

But I bought a new Gus and Skyline lol


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I saw he had a good deal going but I'm moving away from larger rta tanks, the BBs keep me happy. The Pico +Odis 16 are at the other end of the spectrum but I use them daily and I'm wondering if I should keep the KRMA and Hadaly now....I'm still using the Supersonics so they are keepers.
 

~Don~

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Let's try the insider again. So little wick it might as well pour in from the bottom. Lol. Just basically laid the cotton on the juice holes. Super trimmed like a hot date.

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Prognosis doc?
 

~Don~

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Going well. No dry hits. Crazy the amount of no cotton you use to wick this thing. Lol thanks for the tutorial

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I spent a lot of time with the Insider when I got my BB...cause well I got it used and without any other Boros or Bridges LOL So I was really forced to make it work...

Watched all the videos I saw on YT and they all just didn't work...so I went back to the sucky RTA days on how I had to wick and the one thing that made the Insider really do well, was moving the coil position out more to the edge of the AF...to me that was the turning point.
 

Arthur-VU

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A cigarette. :giggle:
LOL. 2.5 yrs ago was the last time I ever had one.

Would seem baffling to be subconsciously chasing them, unless the withdrawal of all of the other addictive chemicals added to them has a very long tail of dissipation.

I was never dual-use. The week before I quit smoking and took up vaping, I smoked like a fiend, having a long good-bye with it, making me almost physically sick of it.

When I started vaping, I went right to some 24mg spearmint and 18mg vanilla-coffee juice, and to this day, never had a smoke again after Jan 15, 2016 which was my first day vaping.
 

R3alJim Shady

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LOL. 2.5 yrs ago was the last time I ever had one.

Would seem baffling to be subconsciously chasing them, unless the withdrawal of all of the other addictive chemicals added to them has a very long tail of dissipation.

I was never dual-use. The week before I quit smoking and took up vaping, I smoked like a fiend, having a long good-bye with it, making me almost physically sick of it.

When I started vaping, I went right to some 24mg spearmint and 18mg vanilla-coffee juice, and to this day, never had a smoke again after Jan 15, 2016 which was my first day vaping.
I've had a handful over the past five years since I started vaping. Always when I'm already drunk, I know someone who has cigarettes, and I'm feeling like doing something dumb. After the first drag I remember how much I hate it, but force myself to finish it because someone was kind enough to give it to me.
Last time was at my bachelor party last September in the parking lot of a strip club... all kinds of bad decisions were made that day. I was worthless for two days after and discovered that I am not 25 anymore.

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Arthur-VU

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Vaping my own DIY unflavored, I can go about 2 weeks before the flavor is 'off', and when I open it up, the cotton is not burned just slightly darkened where the coil was, yet there is build-up on the coil itself, which is likely the cause of the flavor change.

So I take the opportunity to dry-burn and re-wick.

Flavor with unflavored may seem like a contradiction, but VG has a light sweetness by itself, which is enough for me. I do not add flavor-extracts to my DIY.
 

Arthur-VU

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I've had a handful over the past five years since I started vaping. Always when I'm already drunk, I know someone who has cigarettes, and I'm feeling like doing something dumb. After the first drag I remember how much I hate it, but force myself to finish it because someone was kind enough to give it to me.
Last time was at my bachelor party last September in the parking lot of a strip club... all kinds of bad decisions were made that day. I was worthless for two days after and discovered that I am not 25 anymore.

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I totally understand that. Were I to resume habits I had when I was 25, now at the age of 49, I'd likely end up in the hospital or worse. There were about 8 of us that considered ourselves 'The Olympic Drinking Team'.

I learned the hard way, about 10 yrs ago, that I had to retire from the sport. :)
 

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Good to know my research was correct about the versions.

Missed out on Kkens deal he had on one the other week...but I was on the fence then about buying RTAs and mechs...

But I bought a new Gus and Skyline lol


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I grabbed that Prime from Ken, immaculate condition as usual. I had another that I liked but sold it before my trip because I rarely used it, but his deal was too good to pass up. I’m maybe going to get the wave tank for it because I like everything as lowpro as possible, and it looks the business on the Petite Box...but then again my whole nofuss anti-build phase is strong right now and I have another trip coming up.
Lemme think on it... If I decide to sell it, I’ll give you first toot if you want dude.
 

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LOL. 2.5 yrs ago was the last time I ever had one.

Would seem baffling to be subconsciously chasing them, unless the withdrawal of all of the other addictive chemicals added to them has a very long tail of dissipation.

I was never dual-use. The week before I quit smoking and took up vaping, I smoked like a fiend, having a long good-bye with it, making me almost physically sick of it.

When I started vaping, I went right to some 24mg spearmint and 18mg vanilla-coffee juice, and to this day, never had a smoke again after Jan 15, 2016 which was my first day vaping.

April of 2014 for me. I have had maybe 5 cigs in that time, the last one over 2 years ago. I dunno, every once in a while the urge does hit me to suckle on the smokey mothers teet. Friend of mine quit cold turkey 15 years ago. He says every once in a while the urge to have a smoke does creep in.

I just chain vape till I feel nic sic or the urge goes away.
 

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Vaping my own DIY unflavored, I can go about 2 weeks before the flavor is 'off', and when I open it up, the cotton is not burned just slightly darkened where the coil was, yet there is build-up on the coil itself, which is likely the cause of the flavor change.

So I take the opportunity to dry-burn and re-wick.

Flavor with unflavored may seem like a contradiction, but VG has a light sweetness by itself, which is enough for me. I do not add flavor-extracts to my DIY.

I almost quit vaping in the first week, I just couldn't stand any of the flavors. Luckily I had a vape shop right around the corner from me, so I was there everyday trying flavors. I was pulling my hair out trying flavors and every single one of them just made me want to puke.

Undeterred, I stumbled upon Russ (Super_X_Drifter) who I remain eternally grateful too, who said he vaped unflavored. Totally dumbfounded I raced over to the vape shop and had them mix me up 30ml of unflavored 18mg juice. I was in heaven, and the rest as they say is history.

I have recently started adding some menthol to my juice. Bought a pound of menthol crystals from Amazon and dissolve them myself in PG and add to my juice to switch things up a bit. Last September went through a terrible bought of vapers tongue, and just couldn't taste the vape anymore. The menthol fixed it right away.
 

Arthur-VU

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...I just chain vape till I feel nic sic or the urge goes away.

Thanks for the reply. I too will chain vape like my life depends on it if the cravings come too hard, but it's been a long while since that happened. I think I have purged the MAOI's and other additives, but I smoked on-and-off for like 30 yrs, and despite trying to quit for spans in-between (longest was 2 yrs [cold-turkey and motivated by a loving and deeply supportive woman at the time], and temptation was EVERYWHERE).

However, the last 17 yrs or so of contiguous smoking likely re-affirmed my addiction to smoking, so even though I am not taking all of those chemicals in now with vaping, I am sure that some of them are still being called for in my brain by the neurological impact from having them in my body, and being dependent upon them for so long.

Not sure how long it takes or if it is even possible to completely and absolutely detox 100% from ingesting the products of Big Tobacco for so long.
 

Arthur-VU

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I almost quit vaping in the first week, I just couldn't stand any of the flavors. Luckily I had a vape shop right around the corner from me, so I was there everyday trying flavors. I was pulling my hair out trying flavors and every single one of them just made me want to puke.

Undeterred, I stumbled upon Russ (Super_X_Drifter) who I remain eternally grateful too, who said he vaped unflavored. Totally dumbfounded I raced over to the vape shop and had them mix me up 30ml of unflavored 18mg juice. I was in heaven, and the rest as they say is history.

I have recently started adding some menthol to my juice. Bought a pound of menthol crystals from Amazon and dissolve them myself in PG and add to my juice to switch things up a bit. Last September went through a terrible bought of vapers tongue, and just couldn't taste the vape anymore. The menthol fixed it right away.
About 1 week after I first started, I discovered Nuclear Vapes (http://www.nuclearvapes.com/), as I was walking down the street (they are local to me). Went in, tried a few flavors and fell in love with their 'Boomer' in their Reactor Room (house brand). Boomer is like a vanilla custard with graham cracker. Also fell in love with their 'Pina Collider' (pina colada flavor) and those too kept me going at the start.

The first week of going DIY unflavored was a bit rough, but I powered thru, and with changes in my diet (low salt/low sugar), can taste the subtle sweetness even more now.

I have thought about getting some Menthol as well, but cannot use PG at all, so would have to dissolve it in water or VG.

Do you have a link to, or the brand name of the item on Amazon? Maybe I will add that to my next order from them.
 

RSZ1

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Thanks for the reply. I too will chain vape like my life depends on it if the cravings come too hard, but it's been a long while since that happened. I think I have purged the MAOI's and other additives, but I smoked on-and-off for like 30 yrs, and despite trying to quit for spans in-between (longest was 2 yrs [cold-turkey and motivated by a loving and deeply supportive woman at the time], and temptation was EVERYWHERE).

However, the last 17 yrs or so of contiguous smoking likely re-affirmed my addiction to smoking, so even though I am not taking all of those chemicals in now with vaping, I am sure that some of them are still being called for in my brain by the neurological impact from having them in my body, and being dependent upon them for so long.

Not sure how long it takes or if it is even possible to completely and absolutely detox 100% from ingesting the products of Big Tobacco for so long.

The urges are rare now, and they get more rare as time goes on. But still, every once in a while the urge comes and sometimes quite strong. Just the other night I had a dream I was having a smoke. Woke up in the morning and the urge I felt was the same as when I was smoking. Was very weird. But it too did pass.

After 25 years of smoking, I guess it may take a few years to get over it.
 

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About 1 week after I first started, I discovered Nuclear Vapes (http://www.nuclearvapes.com/), as I was walking down the street (they are local to me). Went in, tried a few flavors and fell in love with their 'Boomer' in their Reactor Room (house brand). Boomer is like a vanilla custard with graham cracker. Also fell in love with their 'Pina Collider' (pina colada flavor) and those too kept me going at the start.

The first week of going DIY unflavored was a bit rough, but I powered thru, and with changes in my diet (low salt/low sugar), can taste the subtle sweetness even more now.

I have thought about getting some Menthol as well, but cannot use PG at all, so would have to dissolve it in water or VG.

Do you have a link to, or the brand name of the item on Amazon? Maybe I will add that to my next order from them.

Menthol won't dissolve in VG, I tried everything and it just re-crystallized at room temp. I dissolved 100g of crystals in 100g of PG and use 1-2% of that in the total mix. I'm not a big fan of PG either, but I need to use 70vg/30pg in the menthol mix otherwise the menthol will crystallize at a higher vg ratio.

I bought the Milliard Menthol Crystals USP Grade from Amazon Canada, did a quick look on Amazon US and doesn't seem to be on there, but they have plenty of other brands of USP menthol crystals. If the PG is a deal breaker, then full stop, otherwise you could also check with a local pharmacy and get a small amount there. That's where I was getting it before ordering the larger quantity from Amazon.
 

Arthur-VU

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Menthol won't dissolve in VG, I tried everything and it just re-crystallized at room temp. I dissolved 100g of crystals in 100g of PG and use 1-2% of that in the total mix. I'm not a big fan of PG either, but I need to use 70vg/30pg in the menthol mix otherwise the menthol will crystallize at a higher vg ratio.

I bought the Milliard Menthol Crystals USP Grade from Amazon Canada, did a quick look on Amazon US and doesn't seem to be on there, but they have plenty of other brands of USP menthol crystals. If the PG is a deal breaker, then full stop, otherwise you could also check with a local pharmacy and get a small amount there. That's where I was getting it before ordering the larger quantity from Amazon.
Thanks for the reply and detailed info.

More than 5% PG makes my lungs hurt, burns my throat and repeated exposure makes it hard to breathe, similar to anaphylaxis or severe asthma attack. So I avoid it.

I will need to figure out something else for menthol.

Maybe if I heat the VG, or heat the water to increase the solubility, I wonder if you I get enough (to taste it) menthol saturated into the solution without having it re-crystallize when it cools down?

Maybe a menthol powder instead of crystals? Maybe I need a heated magnetic stirrer for such endeavors?
 

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Thanks for the reply and detailed info.

More than 5% PG makes my lungs hurt, burns my throat and repeated exposure makes it hard to breathe, similar to anaphylaxis or severe asthma attack. So I avoid it.

I will need to figure out something else for menthol.

Maybe if I heat the VG, or heat the water to increase the solubility, I wonder if you I get enough (to taste it) menthol saturated into the solution without having it re-crystallize when it cools down?

Maybe a menthol powder instead of crystals? Maybe I need a heated magnetic stirrer for such endeavors?
Might want to try this, https://www.nicotineriver.com/products/flavor-apprentice-koolada-10-pg it is a 10% PG solution but you only use 1% in your juice...It could be diluted enough ?
 

~Don~

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Never smoked cigarettes, was a 2 a day cigar smoker though.

Funny thing is, cigars are exponentially more expensive than a pack of cigarettes and I was buying boxes multiple times a month having them delivered, well not really funny, some boxes (24 cigars) were running me $279+ with the average box costing $159 for 20-25 robustos.

Wife is much happier I kicked (decided) smoking cigars, and I sold off a lot of boxes I had in cooleradors...but yeah, if we go out and I have a drink...I'm seriously looking for a stogie even 3 years later.

She asked me before my birthday this year what I wanted, my first instinct and reply was a cigar and 4 fingers of cognac

I admittedly had one New Years which was my last one, couldn't even get 1/3rd of it finished before I was dizzy, green and wanting to puke...but it was the most glorious up to that point and a reminder that I chose the right path to rid myself of nicotine eventually.

Shame too, was a $47 cigar


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R3alJim Shady

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Never smoked cigarettes, was a 2 a day cigar smoker though.

Funny thing is, cigars are exponentially more expensive than a pack of cigarettes and I was buying boxes multiple times a month having them delivered, well not really funny, some boxes (24 cigars) were running me $279+ with the average box costing $159 for 20-25 robustos.

Wife is much happier I kicked (decided) smoking cigars, and I sold off a lot of boxes I had in cooleradors...but yeah, if we go out and I have a drink...I'm seriously looking for a stogie even 3 years later.

She asked me before my birthday this year what I wanted, my first instinct and reply was a cigar and 4 fingers of cognac

I admittedly had one New Years which was my last one, couldn't even get 1/3rd of it finished before I was dizzy, green and wanting to puke...but it was the most glorious up to that point and a reminder that I chose the right path to rid myself of nicotine eventually.

Shame too, was a $47 cigar


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Oh what was it? Opus X? Cuban import?

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The hardest time I have not smoking is after I eat. Good juice doesn't taste right after a cheeseburger or something

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