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The Cromwell

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Personally I feel safer with a rewrap of the VTC5D knowing that it is a rewrap of the VTC5D than I feel with any 20 amp battery. Knowing that the rewrap you're using has a higher CDR is safer than using a lower CDR... period.
yes but you never know what they put in the wrappers. This week it may be a VTC5D next week it may be a 30Q...

I prefer NO rewraps unless I do the rewrapping.
 

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Btw, here's an excerpt from Mooch's Battery Safety article:

At about 230°C – 270°C the thermal runaway threshold temperature is reached. This is where there the materials inside the battery are decomposing incredibly fast. There is a huge buildup of gas and the battery bursts open, often ejecting its contents and throwing pieces of battery a long distance. Depending on the threshold temperature the solvent can also ignite, resulting in a fireball to accompany the shrapnel.

While it can be quite violent, this isn’t the explosion seen in a few videos that have made their way through the vaping groups and forums. Those explosions happen when a device doesn’t have a pop off side panel or large open areas for the pressure to escape. The device holds back the gases for a bit but eventually it can’t withstand the increasing pressure and it explodes.

It is quite difficult, but not impossible, to bring the temperature of a battery up quickly enough to go into thermal runaway without it venting first. About the only way to do it is with a short circuit.

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http://vapeordie.com/vape/battery-safety-mooch/
 

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Venting holes in all the tube mechs I have seen will only handle a minor venting event.
They are kind of like an early warning whistle to know when to throw the mod.

The guy was asleep and the fire was going to cause the battery to blow shrapnel into his face even if it was just the 18650 sitting on the nightstand in the middle of a house fire with some dude passed out beside it.

It's just as plausible as the M.E.'s theory (That's what it is too. A THEORY)
 
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The guy was asleep and the fire was going to cause the battery to blow shrapnel into his face even if it was just the 18650 sitting on the nightstand in the middle of a house fire with some dude passed out beside it.

It's just as plausible as the M.E.'s theory (That's what it is to. A THEORY)

yeah that is the problem with the majority of 'vape incidents', no details.
 

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Very few good vape batteries actually explode.
Generally just pop the top and spew fire.
The LiCo now....

Ultrafire... What a fitting name :)


But a thermal runaway battery can pop an end/atty off of a tube mech in yer face. Or shoot it into the ceiling, etc. But that is because the tube is containing the spewing fire....
 

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Very few good vape batteries actually explode.
Generally just pop the top and spew fire.
The LiCo now....

Ultrafire... What a fitting name :)


But a thermal runaway battery can pop an end/atty off of a tube mech in yer face. Or shoot it into the ceiling, etc. But that is because the tube is containing the spewing fire....

The sad, sad, sad sad sad reality of it is:

There are assholes out there that are so stupid they will put those ultrafires in a clone mech w/ hybrid top cap that the vape shop guy built to 0.12 ohms.
The vape shop guy built the coils in the RDA because the asshole cloudz bro vaper doesn't even know how to build.

These are the assholes winning lawsuits right now in America.
 

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The sad, sad, sad sad sad reality of it is:

There are assholes out there that are so stupid they will put those ultrafires in a clone mech w/ hybrid top cap that the vape shop guy built to 0.12 ohms.
The vape shop guy built the coils in the RDA because the asshole cloudz bro vaper doesn't even know how to build.

These are the assholes winning lawsuits right now in America.
If they win a lawsuit, they should spend the money on a castration.
 

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Just had to bump this to put this here
https://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/publish/news/newsroom/2763

Why don’t cigarette related fires and resulting deaths make the news like a freak vaping accident? Probably because there wouldn’t be any more time left to talk about anything else.

Damage in ONE year resulting from tobacco related fires was over 27 BILLION dollars world wide, and was responsible for 30% of fire deaths in the US, but by all means let’s focus on the rare random vape accident instead.
 

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