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Carambrda said:
As you can see, I'm already a fan of the FA despite I haven't even opened any of the bottles yet. :cool:
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Indeed and you have a nice collection of fruits that you can do a lot with. I'd probably start with one of those Oranges or maybe the Juicy Strawberry and mix up a tester at 2% fruit and 1% Fresh or Vienna Cream. If you have it, Vienna might be the better choice because it adds a little sweetness that you don't really get with Fresh Cream, or at least I don't. I find Bilberry, Fuji, Grapefruit and Raspberry quite strong so I usually start them lower when building a mix. I love FA Pineapple but I have to be careful with it because it can give me indigestion, just like the real thing! :D

As you know, FA flavors are fairly strong so I usually start around 1-2% with a primary flavor unless I know otherwise in advance. While it isn't usually a primary flavor, FA Honey for example, is extremely potent so starting at even 2% would probably hurt me, lol.

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Daintanee

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Well, to be honest FA were the easiest flavors for me to begin mixing with and learning to diy. Why? Because the flavors actually tasted like the flavors they were meant to be, unlike many other brands. Most importantly were all of Hic's notes on each flavor, Hic's recipes along with all of the notes and flavor interactions. One thing about FA and most recipes with FA are that I prefer to vape them right after mixing without steeping. However, correct me if I am wrong, but I believe you are interested in mixing a recipe you know will be great, not really taking time and trial and error and learning diy? And wondering why you have made recipes with other flavor companies flavors you have enjoyed, but not FA ones? It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with your diy being wrong. For example you may love a big thick juicy steak to eat where as I don't care for steak. Vaping is like eating in the fact that our palettes are all quite different. That is why no one can tell you to mix this or that and you will love it, bc you may hate it. My suggestion would be to try the flavors as a single flavor mix. No need to waste a lot of base, just add a drop to 3 ml. Of base is about 1%, 2 drops 2%, and so on. See what flavors you like.

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misswish said:
Huck, I still have the original thread bookmarked! About time to go back and read it again, too. So much there, and so much fun.
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I have a bookmark for that thread ending with:
diy-e-liquid/336110-flavor-apprentice-flavoring-thread-202.html

It's been years since I've tried it, but when I just now tried clicking on the whole bookmark, all I got is an "Error" message from "that other place"

When I searched titles there with "flavor apprentice flavoring thread" I got no results for that thread. :sad:

It's too bad. There was a lot of fine info in that thread. :facepalm:

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RonJS said:
I have a bookmark for that thread ending with:
diy-e-liquid/336110-flavor-apprentice-flavoring-thread-202.html

It's been years since I've tried it, but when I just now tried clicking on the whole bookmark, all I got is an "Error" message from "that other place"

When I searched titles there with "flavor apprentice flavoring thread" I got no results for that thread. :sad:

It's too bad. There was a lot of fine info in that thread. :facepalm:

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It's actually titled Pure Vapes has 3ml FlavourArt Flavorings.
 
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Carambrda said:
Yeah, but I said just cream. lol Biscuit, marshmallow, and meringue are not on my list for now because I want to keep the number of flavorings I have firmly under control until I'm ready for the next step so the only things cream related I have are FA cream fresh, CAP sweet cream, TFA dx sweet cream, TFA dairy/milk, TFA whipped cream, TFA cotton candy (for mouthfeel), TFA bavarian cream (to make fruits "pop" more), TFA banana cream, CAP vanilla bean ice cream, and FA (new) yogurt... and of course TFA sweetener. The rest I have are all fruit flavorings excepting FA anise, TFA milk chocolate, oh and 3 different coconuts.
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Nothing says you can't just mix a fruit & cream together to test it out.
I've found adding just Cream, or just Vanilla, wasn't as good as combining both.
Personal preferences is a big part of DIY.
Which fruit, and which cream, is up to you, as there are no established rules for DIY.

I like TFA Dairy Milk, others prefer FA Fresh Cream, and some like Hangsen Cream better.
TFA Bavarian Cream doesn't make fruits pop more BTW, never heard of such a thing :rolleyes:

FA Marshmallow gives a bit of sweetness & mouthfeel and one of the "must haves" IMO.

I doubt you learned about cooking in a week so it is also going to take some time to learn the different flavors and brands.
Big difference between brands/flavors makes it not so simple.
 
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Heabob said:
Nothing says you can't just mix a fruit & cream together to test it out.
I've found adding just Cream, or just Vanilla, wasn't as good as combining both.
Personal preferences is a big part of DIY.
Which fruit, and which cream, is up to you, as there are no established rules for DIY.

I like TFA Dairy Milk, others prefer FA Fresh Cream, and some like Hangsen Cream better.
TFA Bavarian Cream doesn't make fruits pop more BTW, never heard of such a thing :rolleyes:

FA Marshmallow gives a bit of sweetness & mouthfeel and one of the "must haves" IMO.

I doubt you learned about cooking in a week so it is also going to take some time to learn the different flavors and brands.
Big difference between brands/flavors makes it not so simple.
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:cheers: Was thinking more about combining FA cream fresh with TFA dairy/milk for a reasonable start, and, next, trying to add CAP sweet cream and or TFA dx sweet cream to this basic combination... maybe also with a dash of TFA whipped cream. The only thing vanilla that I have right now is CAP vanilla bean ice cream.

My main problem is I don't know at how many % of each cream or cream-like flavoring I should start in order to try and make any of these kinds of combinations work, as I seem unable to find any cream based recipes that I could try to tweak without also needing stuff that I don't have (such as the marshmallow, etc.).

For more sweetness I also have TFA sweetener, and for mouthfeel I intend to stick to TFA cotton candy─instead of the marshmallow─for now. I'm not asking anyone to create my recipe for me, just trying to figure out how to go about balancing the stuff I have, to hopefully end up with a decent cream base to be used together with some fruits after that.

I figured my collection of 34 different flavorings should be enough to meet this purpose for now... like I said earlier, I don't want to buy more flavorings until I feel ready to move to the next step. So far, nobody seems to know the answer. lol
 
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Good luck to you! I still haven’t ventured into my own creation as I too don’t know what percentage to mix with what. I’m happy enough with all the recipes posted here. Some have become my favs, others are good but not an adv for me. It’s trial & error.
 
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Heartsdelight said:
Good luck to you! I still haven’t ventured into my own creation as I too don’t know what percentage to mix with what. I’m happy enough with all the recipes posted here. Some have become my favs, others are good but not an adv for me. It’s trial & error.
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Out of my experience with various flavors, and being a hobby chef, I do experiment with the flavors on hand. Of course, I started of experimenting with recipes posted here on VU. In addition, HIC's report on FA's flavors (go to https://gumroad.com/l/GwMpo), guided me to creating recipes on my own. The latest recipe is my Creme Brûlée w/ Amaretto De Saronno, which I posted here on VU. Most of the FA flavors, being at least very close to the real thing, require just 2-3% only. There are a few flavors, that need even less, e. g. FA's Blackberry. It needs to be way below 1%, otherwise it will taste like soap/perfume. Although, I prefer FA flavors, I also utilize (ordered by preferences) INW, CAP, and TFA/TFP flavors..
When I try to create a "new" juice, I mainly relate to deserts, I've tasted. I also created some recipes, based on tobacco flavors, either referring to flavors experienced when I was smoking, or thinking of mixing different flavors, I think could go well together. Anyhow, it's a try and error. Therefore, I'm mixing just small batches (10-15 ml), and check out the flavor, utilizing a RDA. Most importantly, I'm taking notes, on how the juice tastes, At various times, in order to determine the proper steeping time needed.
 
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Neunerball said:
Out of my experience with various flavors, and being a hobby chef, I do experiment with the flavors on hand. Of course, I started of experimenting with recipes posted here on VU. In addition, HIC's report on FA's flavors (go to https://gumroad.com/l/GwMpo), guided me to creating recipes on my own. The latest recipe is my Creme Brûlée w/ Amaretto De Saronno, which I posted here on VU. Most of the FA flavors, being at least very close to the real thing, require just 2-3% only. There are a few flavors, that need even less, e. g. FA's Blackberry. It needs to be way below 1%, otherwise it will taste like soap/perfume. Although, I prefer FA flavors, I also utilize (ordered by preferences) INW, CAP, and TFA/TFP flavors..
When I try to create a "new" juice, I mainly relate to deserts, I've tasted. I also created some recipes, based on tobacco flavors, either referring to flavors experienced when I was smoking, or thinking of mixing different flavors, I think could go well together. Anyhow, it's a try and error. Therefore, I'm mixing just small batches (10-15 ml), and check out the flavor, utilizing a RDA. Most importantly, I'm taking notes, on how the juice tastes, At various times, in order to determine the proper steeping time needed.
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Daintanee said:
Oh yes, Hic's notes are amazing as well as the gumroad store. I need to take the time to figure out how to add a nice link as my signature again, now that I've been back on here again.
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I bought a lot of HIC's recipes myself, which also helped me in developing some of my own recipes. Which reminds me, I need to revisit a recipe I haven't worked on for quite a while, due to being focused on my Creme Brûlée w/ Amaretto. I was trying to create a recipe for "Fried Banana w/ Honey sauce", as you can buy at a Chinese Restaurant.
 
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Carambrda said:
My main problem is I don't know at how many % of each cream or cream-like flavoring I should start in order to try and make any of these kinds of combinations work, as I seem unable to find any cream based recipes that I could try to tweak without also needing stuff that I don't have (such as the marshmallow, etc.).
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As far as I know, there is no such thing as "cream based recipes".
Creams are considered add on flavors to be used with other "primary flavors".
Usually 1, or maybe 2 creams are added to other mixes.
My preferences:
2% TFA Dairy Milk
or
2% FW Milk
or
1% FA Fresh Cream (this one doesn't have any sweetness like many others.
or
0.5% Hangsen Cream
or
1-2% FE Oak Milk
or
1-2% TFA/CAP Sweet Cream or (Bavarian)
(The TFA DX versions can go a bit higher and they seem to be a bit sweeter than the regular ones).

If your mixing several creams together I'd stay around 2% total anyway, just sayin'.
Or 1-3 range...
 
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Teresa P said:
Just thinking of it makes me hungry!
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I will post the recipe here on VU, when I think, I have it to my liking. I do remember, having a problem getting the right banana flavor. Looking at my 6th attempt, I was using a mix of FA Banana, and TFA/TPA Ripe Banana. I do remember, that the banana flavor got weak after a short time. I'll have to mix a new batch, and go from there.
 
Carambrda

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Heabob said:
As far as I know, there is no such thing as "cream based recipes".
Creams are considered add on flavors to be used with other "primary flavors".
Usually 1, or maybe 2 creams are added to other mixes.
My preferences:
2% TFA Dairy Milk
or
2% FW Milk
or
1% FA Fresh Cream (this one doesn't have any sweetness like many others.
or
0.5% Hangsen Cream
or
1-2% FE Oak Milk
or
1-2% TFA/CAP Sweet Cream or (Bavarian)
(The TFA DX versions can go a bit higher and they seem to be a bit sweeter than the regular ones).

If your mixing several creams together I'd stay around 2% total anyway, just sayin'.
Or 1-3 range...
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:cheers: With "cream based" I was referring to anything the secondary flavors in which are only/mostly all cream or cream-like.
 
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Heabob said:
As far as I know, there is no such thing as "cream based recipes".
Creams are considered add on flavors to be used with other "primary flavors".
Usually 1, or maybe 2 creams are added to other mixes.
My preferences:
2% TFA Dairy Milk
or
2% FW Milk
or
1% FA Fresh Cream (this one doesn't have any sweetness like many others.
or
0.5% Hangsen Cream
or
1-2% FE Oak Milk
or
1-2% TFA/CAP Sweet Cream or (Bavarian)
(The TFA DX versions can go a bit higher and they seem to be a bit sweeter than the regular ones).

If your mixing several creams together I'd stay around 2% total anyway, just sayin'.
Or 1-3 range...
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I’m still loving & vaping right now your “Soft Vanilla Ice Cream Cone” !
 
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Carambrda said:
:cheers: With "cream based" I was referring to anything the secondary flavors in which are only/mostly all cream or cream-like.
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Maybe just the terminology used was confusing.
I'd suggest trying each Cream flavor alone (with a single fruit of course).
See if you can detect any differences between them all.
You may find you really like one more than the others.
I think the many different flavor mfgs. have done a pretty good job of creating the "cream based/secondary"
profiles already.
If none of those are "doing it" for you, then it's more likely a different issue.
However, artificial flavors just can't compete with real Cow Milk or Cream taste.
Adding just a drop or 2 of sweetener might help tho.
 
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FYI to all FA flavors lovers. Im getting the whole Line and will have allot of information coming. Recipes etc. Check out my youtube channel in the next week or so. Josh Vapes
 
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For those in da UK (or order from there), I've heard....

" Coming Soon! Fantastic New Flavours by Flavourart. Watch this space for when they arrive in stock. Dragon Fruit, Vanilla Ice Cream, New York Cheese Cake, Graham Crust Cheese Cake, Jammy Wizard, Chocolate Doughnut and Bavarian Cream. "

Hmmm...
 
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RonJS said:
For those in da UK (or order from there), I've heard....

" Coming Soon! Fantastic New Flavours by Flavourart. Watch this space for when they arrive in stock. Dragon Fruit, Vanilla Ice Cream, New York Cheese Cake, Graham Crust Cheese Cake, Jammy Wizard, Chocolate Doughnut and Bavarian Cream. "

Hmmm...
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Ooooh!!!
 
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RonJS said:
For those in da UK (or order from there), I've heard....

" Coming Soon! Fantastic New Flavours by Flavourart. Watch this space for when they arrive in stock. Dragon Fruit, Vanilla Ice Cream, New York Cheese Cake, Graham Crust Cheese Cake, Jammy Wizard, Chocolate Doughnut and Bavarian Cream. "

Hmmm...
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Very interested in the Graham Crust Cheese Cake. I just received a resupply of Flavor West Graham Cracker and TFA Grahm Cracker Clear. It's a necessity around here.
 
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RonJS said:
:facepalm:

Thanks for straightening me out!

EDIT: Now you got me wondering what info was so important in the partial link I posted that I bookmarked it :gaah:

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Huckleberried said:
@Daintanee it got archived, but still can be seen here. We all jumped ship after our buddy got banned. Not mentioning names to protect Will the innocent. ;)
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lol ah the good ol days. For me, this was my most fun part of my DIY journey. so much learning and experimenting and meeting new friends.
 
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RonJS said:
For those in da UK (or order from there), I've heard....

" Coming Soon! Fantastic New Flavours by Flavourart. Watch this space for when they arrive in stock. Dragon Fruit, Vanilla Ice Cream, New York Cheese Cake, Graham Crust Cheese Cake, Jammy Wizard, Chocolate Doughnut and Bavarian Cream. "

Hmmm...
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Its about time FA releases something of interest to me lol. all their recent releases in the last few years with the exception of juicy strawberry I've had little to no interest in, well I guess I was pretty excited about breakfast cereal to.
 
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