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5w4gy_5c00by

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No matter what I do I my mod will not pump out any pleasing flavor, the most luck I had was an extremely muted strawberry flavor. So recently got the pulse 24 and since I screwed it on my mod is like cursed. I have tried cleaning the rda, changed the wicks, tried different styles of coils from round micro coils to macro dual core fused claptons, tried different wattages, different air flow, I even tried using my dead rabbit rda. it was better than the pulse but not like it was before I got the pulse, no matter that I change I can not get any flavor anymore. I have spent hours reading forums but nothing has worked, if anyone can help that would be greatly appreciated


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Is it possible that you have vapers tongue due to the fact that you are not drinking enough water?

If the soft tissues in your mouth dry out, that is what happens. No or weakened sense of tast.
 

5w4gy_5c00by

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Is it possible that you have vapers tongue due to the fact that you are not drinking enough water?

If the soft tissues in your mouth dry out, that is what happens. No or weakened sense of tast.

You know what, that might be a possibility. I mean last time I tried this flavor it was my favorite and now it just seems to taste like a gunky coil (tho as I said they are fresh coils)


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I took have a Pulse 24 - and I drink about 3 or 5 liters of water a night.

It didn't taste "good" on the Hugo squonker; it didn't taste good on the Gbox; it's been recoiled and rinsed and rewicked and recoiled about a dozen times. I am totally unimpressed with it - anyone wanna' make an offer? ;-)

I got far more flavor from the Wasp Nano, and even that was being a pain - the Haku-clone is doing a far, far better job for me.. Same wires, same wicks - just the gods amusements.
 

5w4gy_5c00by

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I took have a Pulse 24 - and I drink about 3 or 5 liters of water a night.

It didn't taste "good" on the Hugo squonker; it didn't taste good on the Gbox; it's been recoiled and rinsed and rewicked and recoiled about a dozen times. I am totally unimpressed with it - anyone wanna' make an offer? ;-)

I got far more flavor from the Wasp Nano, and even that was being a pain - the Haku-clone is doing a far, far better job for me.. Same wires, same wicks - just the gods amusements.

Yeah, I feel you, I'm probably gonna sell it to one of my friends for like 20


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You know what, that might be a possibility. I mean last time I tried this flavor it was my favorite and now it just seems to taste like a gunky coil (tho as I said they are fresh coils)


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Welcome to VU!

You rotate flavors? Also could be vapor's tongue like mentioned above. It sucks, I get it every once in a while and it can last a day or two. There's a bunch of threads on it and how to try andfix, but your tongue still might say "fuck you man I'm tired" even after trying a few things.
 

5w4gy_5c00by

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You rotate flavors? Also could be vapor's tongue like mentioned above. It sucks, I get it every once in a while and it can last a day or two. There's a bunch of threads on it and how to try andfix, but your tongue still might say "fuck you man I'm tired" even after trying a few things.

Yeah the other juices I used had a bit more flavor, tho I just wanna use this juice I got, it was my favorite flavor and I haven't had it in a while, I mean it's just disappointing when a good ass juice isn't working. It's getting better and I stopped using the pulse so the flavor is coming back. Gotta love the dead rabbit


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When I started vaping, I'd see all these conversations about this or that flavor ejuice, how great or awful they were, and I honestly had no clue WTH they were talking about, because I didn't really taste much from vaping, though it was a nice aroma, that's really all it was. So I started getting into DIY, and hanging around the TFA thread over at butthole central (ECF), and I heard about something called "high flavor mixing" -- using 25%-30% flavoring instead of whatever measly amount most folks use. And it changed my whole life -- I started experimenting with a strawberry and cream flavor in the first part of Dec 2014, and mid-Dec, I had perfected a recipe that I vape to this very day, day in and day out, because I've never tasted better. After vaping it for 3+ yrs, and being smoke-free for nearly 4 yrs now, I've brought it from its original 31% flavoring, to about 24%, and like it just as well, though I continue to reduce the flavoring as the need arises -- the longer you go without smoking, the better you can taste EVERYTHING, but if you've recently laid down the coffin nails, well, smoking kills taste and smell, since your body deadens those senses in pure self-preservation! :D

Hang in, and keep looking for the atty that best suits what you most want -- the flavor, lots of fog, or just whatever. The entire 1st two yrs I vaped, I tried lots, most of us do, because that's really what it takes to find just the right setup for your personal needs and wants. There's a lot of attys, and if you order from FT and/or the other china vendors, you can get some good prices -- and many, many times, clone attys are as good as the real ones, if they're made by a solid manufacturer like Tobeco or EHPro, among a great many others.

Andria

ETA: Pro-tip: when you get a new atty, take it completely apart *slowly* so you see how it all fits together... then boil all the parts for about 10 mins, and rinse well in cool clear water. It will get rid of dirt, machine oil, etc, so you don't taste anything really vile -- machine oil is truly nasty, and any oil could be dangerous to vape.
 

5w4gy_5c00by

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When I started vaping, I'd see all these conversations about this or that flavor ejuice, how great or awful they were, and I honestly had no clue WTH they were talking about, because I didn't really taste much from vaping, though it was a nice aroma, that's really all it was. So I started getting into DIY, and hanging around the TFA thread over at butthole central (ECF), and I heard about something called "high flavor mixing" -- using 25%-30% flavoring instead of whatever measly amount most folks use. And it changed my whole life -- I started experimenting with a strawberry and cream flavor in the first part of Dec 2014, and mid-Dec, I had perfected a recipe that I vape to this very day, day in and day out, because I've never tasted better. After vaping it for 3+ yrs, and being smoke-free for nearly 4 yrs now, I've brought it from its original 31% flavoring, to about 24%, and like it just as well, though I continue to reduce the flavoring as the need arises -- the longer you go without smoking, the better you can taste EVERYTHING, but if you've recently laid down the coffin nails, well, smoking kills taste and smell, since your body deadens those senses in pure self-preservation! :D

Hang in, and keep looking for the atty that best suits what you most want -- the flavor, lots of fog, or just whatever. The entire 1st two yrs I vaped, I tried lots, most of us do, because that's really what it takes to find just the right setup for your personal needs and wants. There's a lot of attys, and if you order from FT and/or the other china vendors, you can get some good prices -- and many, many times, clone attys are as good as the real ones, if they're made by a solid manufacturer like Tobeco or EHPro, among a great many others.

Andria

ETA: Pro-tip: when you get a new atty, take it completely apart *slowly* so you see how it all fits together... then boil all the parts for about 10 mins, and rinse well in cool clear water. It will get rid of dirt, machine oil, etc, so you don't taste anything really vile -- machine oil is truly nasty, and any oil could be dangerous to vape.

I have heard about using different pg to vg ratios helps flavor but the all the juice I've bought just so happen to be 70 30, I might get into ratios later on but for now I'm looking at the ghoul rda, i hear bottom air flow rdas just pump flavor. Also I learned to clean rdas the hard way with that pulse 24, I know the scent of oil so I was sitting there like "wtf is that, I know what it is but I can't put my finger on it" then when I saw black charing on the cotton it clicked that it was oil lamo.


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I have heard about using different pg to vg ratios helps flavor but the all the juice I've bought just so happen to be 70 30, I might get into ratios later on but for now I'm looking at the ghoul rda, i hear bottom air flow rdas just pump flavor. Also I learned to clean rdas the hard way with that pulse 24, I know the scent of oil so I was sitting there like "wtf is that, I know what it is but I can't put my finger on it" then when I saw black charing on the cotton it clicked that it was oil lamo.


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Well, if you've bought juice recently, then it's most likely 30/70, not 70/30 -- it's impossible to find high-PG anymore, so you're getting 70% VG (which would literally suffocate me into the emergency room -- I use 86% PG, which is 86/14). Cloud chasers have muddied the water so much that people think the non-alphabetical order is actually correct, but I learned the alphabet A to Z, not V to P. To get more PG, you'll have to make it yourself, because nobody sells it anymore -- ejuice makers are catering to the "fog up the whole damn house" fad. You MIGHT be able to find 50/50, but that's still high VG, as far as viscosity or flavor is concerned.

I completely agree about bottom airflow; that's the only kind I've ever been able to get any flavor at all out of; when I first started, I used Kanger T3S clearomizers, then when I started building coils, moved up to a Kayfun Lite Plus, and have used nothing but Achilles RDAs for the last 3 yrs -- but you won't find them anymore, anywhere, and they probably wouldn't suit you anyway, since they're VERRRRRRRRRRRY tight draw, none of that cloud-chasing business, just pure flavor. People say the draw is like sucking a golf ball thru a straw, but to me, it's like... smoking. That hard suction you use with a cigarette. Since smoking is what I'm substituting vaping for, it's the only kind of draw I find satisfying at all, and the lack of air diluting the vapor makes the flavor very intense, and also requires very low wattage, so you don't waste a ton of juice just to make fog which has zero to do with flavor.

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Well, if you've bought juice recently, then it's most likely 30/70, not 70/30 -- it's impossible to find high-PG anymore, so you're getting 70% VG (which would literally suffocate me into the emergency room -- I use 86% PG, which is 86/14). Cloud chasers have muddied the water so much that people think the non-alphabetical order is actually correct, but I learned the alphabet A to Z, not V to P. To get more PG, you'll have to make it yourself, because nobody sells it anymore -- ejuice makers are catering to the "fog up the whole damn house" fad. You MIGHT be able to find 50/50, but that's still high VG, as far as viscosity or flavor is concerned.

I completely agree about bottom airflow; that's the only kind I've ever been able to get any flavor at all out of; when I first started, I used Kanger T3S clearomizers, then when I started building coils, moved up to a Kayfun Lite Plus, and have used nothing but Achilles RDAs for the last 3 yrs -- but you won't find them anymore, anywhere, and they probably wouldn't suit you anyway, since they're VERRRRRRRRRRRY tight draw, none of that cloud-chasing business, just pure flavor. People say the draw is like sucking a golf ball thru a straw, but to me, it's like... smoking. That hard suction you use with a cigarette. Since smoking is what I'm substituting vaping for, it's the only kind of draw I find satisfying at all, and the lack of air diluting the vapor makes the flavor very intense, and also requires very low wattage, so you don't waste a ton of juice just to make fog which has zero to do with flavor.

Andria

It is 70/30, and Iv seen flavor playing more of a role than it did a few years ago. But for me I like a nice dense cloud but flavor is very important so I like direct lung hits with mostly (if not all the way) open airflows, in my experience the more air you can get going around the coil the better especially if you make fused claptons like I do. Iv smoked and I honestly find it disgusting, I mean when I started vaping I was like "this is ALOT cleaner alternative"


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Is it possible that you have vapers tongue due to the fact that you are not drinking enough water?

If the soft tissues in your mouth dry out, that is what happens. No or weakened sense of tast.
^^^^ This

If you already rotate flavors drink lots of water and also drink something like Coffee if you need to reset your taste buds.

I used to get Vapers tongue and every once in a blue moon I feel it coming along if I don't drink enough water. I drink lots of water usually and have to take multiple piss's a day. But that's the way it is, it will serve two purposes, one it'll ward off Vapers tongue and is actually very good for you for most people don't drink enough water.

Any way this is what I do
  • Drink lots of water all day
  • Switch around flavor's ( I carry around at least two mods with different flavors, sometimes 3)
  • I'll drink with no sugar Coffee or Tea (mostly Tea) a couple of times a day and that will reset the taste buds
 

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^^^^ This

If you already rotate flavors drink lots of water and also drink something like Coffee if you need to reset your taste buds.

I used to get Vapers tongue and every once in a blue moon I feel it coming along if I don't drink enough water. I drink lots of water usually and have to take multiple piss's a day. But that's the way it is, it will serve two purposes, one it'll ward off Vapers tongue and is actually very good for you for most people don't drink enough water.

Any way this is what I do
  • Drink lots of water all day
  • Switch around flavor's ( I carry around at least two mods with different flavors, sometimes 3)
  • I'll drink with no sugar Coffee or Tea (mostly Tea) a couple of times a day and that will reset the taste buds

I usually don't drink coffee but I remember the day it really got bad I had to wake up at 1:30 am and get ready for work so I drank two cups of coffee then walked around a parking lot all day and didn't have time to get water all day, so it was a definite possibility, I mean right after I chugged a bottle of water the flavor started coming back


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I usually don't drink coffee but I remember the day it really got bad I had to wake up at 1:30 am and get ready for work so I drank two cups of coffee then walked around a parking lot all day and didn't have time to get water all day, so it was a definite possibility, I mean right after I chugged a bottle of water the flavor started coming back


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Doesn't have to be coffee, I myself mostly drink tea (Chinese Tea), hell beer also works. You just need to drink something to reset the taste bud, just insure it's not sweetened or something that will coat like milk.
 

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I found some interesting cures for Vapers Tongue, one is eating a pickle good dill or eating some fresh pineapple also works well. Lemon water is another good one along with lemon sorbet. Works for me at least so might help others. Good Luck
 

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I eat jalapenos. But I do have to wait an hour or so before I can taste anything at all.
 

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I eat jalapenos. But I do have to wait an hour or so before I can taste anything at all.

Ever tried the Vampire or Ghost peppers? A friend gave me some Dracula peppers and just cutting them up for someone else burned my fingers~!
 

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I’ve sniffed coffee beans (it works sometimes)
Cough drops (yes.. this worked for me)
Taste bud dances to the flavor gods.

But honestly just rotating flavors has helped me the most
 

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Ever tried the Vampire or Ghost peppers? A friend gave me some Dracula peppers and just cutting them up for someone else burned my fingers~!

No way! I can only tolerate the wimpiest ones I can find.
 

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I had a mild case of vapors tongue a couple of weeks ago.
Went to a friends house on Sunday morning and he made up a pitcher of Bloody Marys.
They were spicy as hell. He added some hot chili sauce to it.
About an hour later I could start tasting my juice again. By the time I got home, the Vapors tongue was gone.
 

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Not sure if OP ever resolved this, but I can verify that smelting your insulator in a Kayfun will taste remarkably nasty until you notice the melted plastic. I think I wasted about 4 tanks and a dozen builds, that time..
 

5w4gy_5c00by

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I’ve sniffed coffee beans (it works sometimes)
Cough drops (yes.. this worked for me)
Taste bud dances to the flavor gods.

But honestly just rotating flavors has helped me the most

I think that specific flavor is just too sugary, it caramelizes and fucks the flavor


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