Become a Patron!

Need help: Newbie Builder Here

Gerald123

Member For 1 Year
Im totally new to vaping. And trying to learn building.

Just wanna ask a good build using 24G Kanthal A1?

My set
Voopoo Drag
Zeus Rta (single coil)
mxjo batts

Suggestions are highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
 

Vape Fan

_evil twin_
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Press Corps
Member For 5 Years
Depends on what resistance/wattage you want. Steam Engine's Wire Wizard is a good place to start. It's default wire setting is the Ka 1 wire you posted.
Just set the G (AWG) to 24, and 3mm id would be good or the id of what your going to wrap it around, then how many wraps to get your desired resistance.
http://www.steam-engine.org/wirewiz.html
 

zephyr

Dirty Pirate Meg
VU Donator
Gold Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Unlisted Vendor
Is this what your batteries look like? There are a Lot of batteries out there, and if you want to make your own builds you need to know Exactly what kind of battery you have, and the Amp Rating also called Continuous Discharge Rating

https://www.imrbatteries.com/mxjo-18650-3000mah-flat-top-battery/

Make sure your batteries have at least a 15 amp rating if you're going to build below 0.5 ohms, over 20amps if you're going to build lower

Use steam engine or something to check how many amps your resistance (ohms) will pull from your battery at a particular wattage/voltage
http://www.steam-engine.org/ohm.html

Then you can use steam engine's coil wrapping tool
http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.html?p=roundmulti&r=0.25&str=2&awg=24&id=3.5

Here I went ahead and put in a build I suggest, IF your batteries are rated above 15 amps.

It's 0.25 ohms, single coil, two strands of 24awg kanthal wrapped around a 3.5mm bit/jig 5 or 6 times

This is called a parallel build, kind of like two coils combined into one

Good for 40 - 60 watts or so
 

Gerald123

Member For 1 Year
Is this what your batteries look like? There are a Lot of batteries out there, and if you want to make your own builds you need to know Exactly what kind of battery you have, and the Amp Rating also called Continuous Discharge Rating

https://www.imrbatteries.com/mxjo-18650-3000mah-flat-top-battery/

Make sure your batteries have at least a 15 amp rating if you're going to build below 0.5 ohms, over 20amps if you're going to build lower

Use steam engine or something to check how many amps your resistance (ohms) will pull from your battery at a particular wattage/voltage
http://www.steam-engine.org/ohm.html

Then you can use steam engine's coil wrapping tool
http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.html?p=roundmulti&r=0.25&str=2&awg=24&id=3.5

Here I went ahead and put in a build I suggest, IF your batteries are rated above 15 amps.

It's 0.25 ohms, single coil, two strands of 24awg kanthal wrapped around a 3.5mm bit/jig 5 or 6 times

This is called a parallel build, kind of like two coils combined into one

Good for 40 - 60 watts or so

yea thats my battery. is it available on vape shops? that kind of wire? what should i tell them?

and thank you for taking your time to help someone like me :)
 

Gerald123

Member For 1 Year
Depends on what resistance/wattage you want. Steam Engine's Wire Wizard is a good place to start. It's default wire setting is the Ka 1 wire you posted.
Just set the G (AWG) to 24, and 3mm id would be good or the id of what your going to wrap it around, then how many wraps to get your desired resistance.
http://www.steam-engine.org/wirewiz.html

thank you so much. ill visit that site now
 

zephyr

Dirty Pirate Meg
VU Donator
Gold Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Unlisted Vendor
yea thats my battery. is it available on vape shops? that kind of wire? what should i tell them?

and thank you for taking your time to help someone like me :)

You can take your own 24 guage and fold it in half, then wrap it around your jig, I am not sure what you are asking if you mean something else, sorry
 

Vape Fan

_evil twin_
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Press Corps
Member For 5 Years
Last edited:

Vape Fan

_evil twin_
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Press Corps
Member For 5 Years
is it available on vape shops? that kind of wire? what should i tell them?
You don't have the wire yet? And you're asking what to tell the vape shop you want?
 

Gerald123

Member For 1 Year
You don't have the wire yet? And you're asking what to tell the vape shop you want?

i mean i just need to use 2 threads together? get 1 thread fold in half then start wrapping? not like clapton. 1thread as core. and 1thread for the outer?
 

Gerald123

Member For 1 Year

Vape Fan

_evil twin_
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Press Corps
Member For 5 Years
She means the wires are side by side. Parallel to each other.
 

Vape Fan

_evil twin_
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Press Corps
Member For 5 Years
my battery is.
3000mah
3.7v
35A

is that good??
Batteries usually are not what they say they are. That's what Mooch does, he tests them and lets us know the batteries true specs for safely vaping.
Does Mooch's CDR amp rating fall into the guide that Meg posted above? Pretty sure you're good to go, but check the chart to be sure - as it's good practice anyways.
 

Gerald123

Member For 1 Year
Batteries usually are not what they say they are. That's what Mooch does, he tests them and lets us know the batteries true specs for safely vaping.
Does Mooch's CDR amp rating fall into the guide that Meg posted above? Pretty sure you're good to go, but check the chart to be sure - as it's good practice anyways.

its says 15A in mooch's cdr.
 

Vape Fan

_evil twin_
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Press Corps
Member For 5 Years
its says 15A in mooch's cdr.
Exactly. That's an example of a manufacturer, or rebrander/rewrapped battery, misinformation. It's a 15A cell, not 35A.
As far as other wire, I'm not the best to answer that, but if can get alien, clapton or fused clapton wire....
 

Vape Fan

_evil twin_
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Press Corps
Member For 5 Years
A lot depends on atty, build, wicking. If all was equal, prolly alien. Hard to find as quality pre made wire. I been mostly using premade handbuilt alien, and premade ss fused clapton coils & wire.
 

Gerald123

Member For 1 Year
A lot depends on atty, build, wicking. If all was equal, prolly alien. Hard to find as quality pre made wire. I been mostly using premade handbuilt alien, and premade ss fused clapton coils & wire.
ill try alien and clapton tomorrow. ill get some
 

gbalkam

Gold Contributor
Member For 4 Years
ECF Refugee
Reddit Exile
Is this what your batteries look like? There are a Lot of batteries out there, and if you want to make your own builds you need to know Exactly what kind of battery you have, and the Amp Rating also called Continuous Discharge Rating

https://www.imrbatteries.com/mxjo-18650-3000mah-flat-top-battery/

Make sure your batteries have at least a 15 amp rating if you're going to build below 0.5 ohms, over 20amps if you're going to build lower

Use steam engine or something to check how many amps your resistance (ohms) will pull from your battery at a particular wattage/voltage
http://www.steam-engine.org/ohm.html

Then you can use steam engine's coil wrapping tool
http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.html?p=roundmulti&r=0.25&str=2&awg=24&id=3.5

Here I went ahead and put in a build I suggest, IF your batteries are rated above 15 amps.

It's 0.25 ohms, single coil, two strands of 24awg kanthal wrapped around a 3.5mm bit/jig 5 or 6 times

This is called a parallel build, kind of like two coils combined into one

Good for 40 - 60 watts or so

Well with 24ga kanthal he is pretty much limited to 5 or 6 wraps on a 2.5 to 3.0 id jig.
The atomizer is actually a mini rba type, so much more that 3.0 is going to be a really hard build to mount without shorts. Additionally, remember with a parallel build.. 5 to 6 wraps actually means 10 to 12 loops of wire. Which might be pretty long for this rta.

a 26 or 28ga would be better for this small area.
 

Gerald123

Member For 1 Year
Well with 24ga kanthal he is pretty much limited to 5 or 6 wraps on a 2.5 to 3.0 id jig.
The atomizer is actually a mini rba type, so much more that 3.0 is going to be a really hard build to mount without shorts. Additionally, remember with a parallel build.. 5 to 6 wraps actually means 10 to 12 loops of wire. Which might be pretty long for this rta.

a 26 or 28ga would be better for this small area.
thank you for your reply buddy
 

Gerald123

Member For 1 Year
Is this what your batteries look like? There are a Lot of batteries out there, and if you want to make your own builds you need to know Exactly what kind of battery you have, and the Amp Rating also called Continuous Discharge Rating

https://www.imrbatteries.com/mxjo-18650-3000mah-flat-top-battery/

Make sure your batteries have at least a 15 amp rating if you're going to build below 0.5 ohms, over 20amps if you're going to build lower

Use steam engine or something to check how many amps your resistance (ohms) will pull from your battery at a particular wattage/voltage
http://www.steam-engine.org/ohm.html

Then you can use steam engine's coil wrapping tool
http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.html?p=roundmulti&r=0.25&str=2&awg=24&id=3.5

Here I went ahead and put in a build I suggest, IF your batteries are rated above 15 amps.

It's 0.25 ohms, single coil, two strands of 24awg kanthal wrapped around a 3.5mm bit/jig 5 or 6 times

This is called a parallel build, kind of like two coils combined into one

Good for 40 - 60 watts or so

this is what i came up with your suggestion. is this good and safe??IMG_20180318_141949_HHT.jpg
 

Gerald123

Member For 1 Year
Well, those are safe numbers, if your coil is installed right. Have you vaped on it? Does it taste okay?

Posting a picture would be helpful too

yeah i vaped on it. flavor is ok. clouds is ok too. it gives hot vape. lol i would love to get warm or cool vape. what do you think about clapton 5wraps with a bit of spacing?
 

KingPin!

In my defence, I was left unsupervised ^^
VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Member For 4 Years
VU Challenge Team
Reviewer
Crop the picture then try
 

zephyr

Dirty Pirate Meg
VU Donator
Gold Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Unlisted Vendor
im having a hard time uploading the picture of the coil. its not being accepted.

Less wire, thinner wire, will make cooler vape, you can lower wattage if you used 28 awg, either regular 28 or 28 claptons

The picture file has to be under 1mb I think
 

VU Sponsors

Top