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Wow the Beluga caps are incredible. And the Monster tips too. Never tried either company before.
The other caps are clear frosted and polished. The other tip is ultem.
Super stoked.
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I have that same monster tip on my entheon bell slam cap and love it. Hopefully going to get a bell cap for supersonic but those caps are nice. Where did you find those... link or group?
Edit: have you seen the vikset cap for the supersonic coming soon? It looks nice
I saw those. They look similar to the Odis version 2, at least imho. The Odis 2s though have a basin type of bottom on the inner deck. I think I'm stuck. NaRDA, Gorge. Heck I built a dual coil setup on a Velocity V2 the other night, took my head off. *chuckles* It was tapping 0.22 ohm. "RDA Fire! RDA Fire! Beeedo!!! Beedo!!!" LOL
Fortunately, no critters endured any malice from said RDA fire.
Just had a look. Verrrrry nice on the slammed Viksets! The nub tip is fire. Thanks a lot man, Will grab those. Send me a PM when you see the list drop please in case I miss it.
OK thanks. Pretty sure I made that last Munoz list for the supersonic but that was before I saw the vikset or beluga. Not a big fan of the dome upper on the munoz but that curved narca cap... dayuum!
Later mates, gotta catch up on some sleep.
OK. Will do. cheers
Bonne nuit brother.
I'm signing off too. I'm gonna watch Netflix and sleep for 14 hours.
Hava great weekend Bonkoz!!
After watching several YouTube reviews of that Nudge 22 it will be going on my (GET IT NOW LIST)
I seriously can not wait until it drops.I just will not do a pre-order...EVER!
I seriously can not wait until it drops.I just will not do a pre-order...EVER!
@The Cromwell or anyone else who understands how a mosfet works.
My svb mod uses switchfet v2. There is a guy who just got a new one over in fb saying his battery life seems better in svb than in his molly, same build and battery.
Some other bloke pops in and says basically,
"The molly is pure mech, right? So you will get a more consistent vape on the mosfet through the day and will suddenly drop off once the battery is dead, unlike the mech where performance is going down constantly."
Is this true because if so, it's news to me but I don't know jack about it. So my voltage to the coil is slowly dropping off under load like a mech or not? Seems like that would be like regulated or some boost voodoo going on. I thought all a mosfet did was take load off the button contact or somesuch. Help me understand the way of the mosfet.
My svb mod uses switchfet v2. There is a guy who just got a new one over in fb saying his battery life seems better in svb than in his molly, same build and battery.
Some other bloke pops in and says basically,
"The molly is pure mech, right? So you will get a more consistent vape on the mosfet through the day and will suddenly drop off once the battery is dead, unlike the mech where performance is going down constantly."
Is this true because if so, it's news to me but I don't know jack about it. So my voltage to the coil is slowly dropping off under load like a mech or not? Seems like that would be like regulated or some boost voodoo going on. I thought all a mosfet did was take load off the button contact or somesuch. Help me understand the way of the mosfet.
A simple mosfet mod just uses a mosfet instead of a mechanical switch to switch battery power to the atty.
The power to the atty will drop as the battery voltage drops, just like a mech. In its switched on state a good mosfet should have less than .1 volt drop from its input to output. Minimum voltage drop at 20 amps is ~ .004 V .
A switchfet is still uses a simple mosfet to switch the power to the atty and just incorporates a tiny brain to have 5 clicks on, low voltage shutoff, and maybe flashing led to indicate battery level. But as far as power to the atty is identical in operation to a simple mosfet mod. The Pico Squeeze is an example of a switchfet mod.
If the "Mosfet" or any mod the guy is talking about holds the power to the atty constant longer and then suddenly drops then it not a mosfet but a non adjustable output regulated mod with a voltage converter circuit. That is the only way what he is what he is saying could be true.
What may have happened is that he upgraded to decent batteries when he got the Molly from Efests or something.
Disclaimer:
I did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express however I AM a good electronics tech for 40 years and more.
Also I do not own a Molly.
And likely never will. I think they do come in white but are far too expensive.
The power to the atty will drop as the battery voltage drops, just like a mech. In its switched on state a good mosfet should have less than .1 volt drop from its input to output. Minimum voltage drop at 20 amps is ~ .004 V .
A switchfet is still uses a simple mosfet to switch the power to the atty and just incorporates a tiny brain to have 5 clicks on, low voltage shutoff, and maybe flashing led to indicate battery level. But as far as power to the atty is identical in operation to a simple mosfet mod. The Pico Squeeze is an example of a switchfet mod.
If the "Mosfet" or any mod the guy is talking about holds the power to the atty constant longer and then suddenly drops then it not a mosfet but a non adjustable output regulated mod with a voltage converter circuit. That is the only way what he is what he is saying could be true.
What may have happened is that he upgraded to decent batteries when he got the Molly from Efests or something.
Disclaimer:
I did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express however I AM a good electronics tech for 40 years and more.
Also I do not own a Molly.
And likely never will. I think they do come in white but are far too expensive.
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OK thanks, that's what I thought. Switchfet v2 has 50amp limit, low voltage battery cut off at 2.7 volts. Not sure about the 5 on/off click thing... maybe I should try that.
"Power consumption is practically zero when not switched." Wtf does that mean... zero power consumption if I'm not firing it?
Idle current :- typical 1.3μA max 3.3μA. This stuff is like Greek to me.
http://www.modmaker.co.uk/Switchfet-V2
But yeah, main question answered, thanks. I thought that sounded too good to be true.
Are those that super squishy soft type?
all regulated mods have some current drain on the battery even when turned 'off'. They like TV's and such are never really totally off since you could not start them with 5 clicks or a remote (TV) if they did not have some circuitry still alive in them to watch for 5 clicks or the remote signal.
Not sure on the 5 clicks on a switchfet but the low voltage shutoff would require a few micro amps of current from the battery to keep operating.
Ok, got it. Yeah I don't think there is a 3 or 5 click off option on this one. Doesn't seem do anything... just always fires but due to 2.7v cutoff must be constant low level consumption going on. Thanks for the info.
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I love how the Kanger, Gbox and Pico squonkers remove the temptation to keep trying different expensive bottles
@DogMan
Soldering up the Orca, lots of flux. You don't want to stay on a part for very long and flux helps the solder flow & stick quick.
I tin the wires with just enough solder to hold the strands together after dipping in flux. Wipe a little flux on the pad you are soldering to.
Flux iron, add a drop of solder on iron.
Iron on wire 1st. Once fluid, quickly set wire on pad with iron touching both pad & wire. Pull iron and blow vigorously, faster it sets, stronger joint it will be.
Clean iron on a wet sponge after every solder.
Modmaker 510s come with nice + & - pads to solder to, superior to trying to solder to a fuckin nut. (attached to a giant heat sink so the nut does not want to get hot... shitty solder joint)
I had to clip a little off the - for the door to seat but it left plenty of room to get the wire on. MM 510 is so short it leaves a crazy amount of room for a bottle, Orca is like 2 mm's taller than the Pulse but you've got about 30% more height available for a taller bottle.
Option #2, have Dan Pearce on FB assemble the mod for you.
He is suggested on the Floris site and Dan pointed me in the direction of using copper sheet for the contacts as nothing else will allow a 20700 in the 20700 enclosure.
Really helpful guy, super quick to respond on FB Messenger app.
Soldering up the Orca, lots of flux. You don't want to stay on a part for very long and flux helps the solder flow & stick quick.
I tin the wires with just enough solder to hold the strands together after dipping in flux. Wipe a little flux on the pad you are soldering to.
Flux iron, add a drop of solder on iron.
Iron on wire 1st. Once fluid, quickly set wire on pad with iron touching both pad & wire. Pull iron and blow vigorously, faster it sets, stronger joint it will be.
Clean iron on a wet sponge after every solder.
Modmaker 510s come with nice + & - pads to solder to, superior to trying to solder to a fuckin nut. (attached to a giant heat sink so the nut does not want to get hot... shitty solder joint)
I had to clip a little off the - for the door to seat but it left plenty of room to get the wire on. MM 510 is so short it leaves a crazy amount of room for a bottle, Orca is like 2 mm's taller than the Pulse but you've got about 30% more height available for a taller bottle.
Option #2, have Dan Pearce on FB assemble the mod for you.
He is suggested on the Floris site and Dan pointed me in the direction of using copper sheet for the contacts as nothing else will allow a 20700 in the 20700 enclosure.
Really helpful guy, super quick to respond on FB Messenger app.
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Added contact...
https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1498672986&ref=content_filter
He is an authorized repair guy for SVA.
https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1498672986&ref=content_filter
He is an authorized repair guy for SVA.
Soft bottles. Very nice
Anyone know where I might find a washer for a diy 510 job with an inner diameter of 22mm and an outer of either 24 or 25? Converted a vapedroid c3d1 to a dual battery squonk, but the squonk 510 plate is now slightly raised off the mod and is 22mm... making any atty larger than 22mm look really odd.
Good price at $8 a pop in usd
Depending on the depth you need, Modmaker’s washer should work with a bit of cutting down
Not sure where to find any in stainless... but I am almost sure Home Depot has reducing washers available...outside of that you can either grab one from BroScience, but you'd have to turn down the one you have or grab a MM 510 and solder the connector in.
Could also get a beauty ring and just install it under the 510 then when you put your 22 attys on it looks flush... would go Old plate-beauty ring- 510...
Just a thought
73neb
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Love the look of theses. Unfortunately the only shipping option to U.S. is $100. Know of any stateside vendors?
I saw broscience had the 25mm washers, but I thought the mm510 was like 16mm, I cant imagine the amount of sanding required to open up the inner diameter from 16 to 22mm heh.
Not sure where to find any in stainless... but I am almost sure Home Depot has reducing washers available...outside of that you can either grab one from BroScience, but you'd have to turn down the one you have or grab a MM 510 and solder the connector in.
Could also get a beauty ring and just install it under the 510 then when you put your 22 attys on it looks flush... would go Old plate-beauty ring- 510...
Just a thought
Not too worried about it being stainless to match the 510 or not, mostly just think the gap looks awful when using a 24mm atty and just wanna fill it. I may just head down to home depot with the mod and look through and play with my options. Hell, a super thick oring atound the 510 to give it a 24mm appearance may even work for my purposes of cleaning up the visual atheistic.
Was a cool project, got a dna 167 squonker for basically $60 since the c3d1 was clearanced out in china. I don't like the rx triangle shape dual squonks, thought this was a cool way to do it (removed the center battery).
hmm simply tips threw up some Haku caps
That ss satin looks nice but saving my pennies for vikset/supersonic
Not really true, it's nothing like a mech. Technically the Pico is just as safe as any regulated mod. It won't let you fire a dangerous build and it won't let you drain your batteries to far.
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Yep! I dont care that its not the latest and greatest $300 botique mod, I have 3, my favorite mod ever. Great mod for training wheels for someone wanting to get into mechs, forces you to learn to build for a mech while still maintaining the safety features of a regulated mod.
Slap a 0.2 ohm coil in there and get a solid 50w for the whole duration of the battery, I love how you can build it for a consistant vape like that.
Plus its smaller than many of the mechs I've used! 11/10 in the hand feel department!
The Pico has buck/boost capability? I thought it was just like the old Bypass mode on iPV's, what you get depends on the level of the battery.
It gives battery voltage only like a mech, but limits power to 50w. So if you build at .2ohms it gives 50w at 4.2v and still at 3.4v, essentially building out the mech power drop due to the top end limiter.
The squeeze?
No buck or boost just a smart switchfet. with battery output minus a little loss for the Mosfet.
Not sure if it shuts down or what at 50 watts or a preset current I would suspect.
I do not think it is smart enough to figure wattage. And the 50W thing may just be a maximum recommended wattage thing and not controlled in any way by the mod.
You have measured this?
or seen it measured?
Or is this an assumption?
if it gives out 4.2 volts at .2 ohms that is 88 watts....
Its a hard cap at 50, uses pwm to keep it at 50 according to the tests I've seen on reddit.
E: you can do some unscientific tests of your own to see its only doing 50w, build a .15 coil and put it on with a fresh batt, test it, then swap the atty to a regulated mod and use ohms law wattage for your setting and see how much more powerful the vape gets. This obv doesn't account for the small drop on the squeeze though.
Just measured my squeeze with a .34 coil. Measured at the coil terminals in the atty
3.64 volts with a .34 coil = 38 actual watts. With old Samsung 25R cell mostly charged.
Put a fully charged VTC5A cell in and repeated the test and got 3.86 volts at the coil.
Which works out to close to 43W.
So straight battery voltage.
The VTC5A hits harder than the 25R due to lower internal resistance thus more voltage at the coil.
And the 25R is over a year old.
AND NO regulation in the mod.
Proof by sciencing.
the squeeze 'may' start pulsing the output the output to limit it to 50 watts. May, would have to scope it to prove one way or the other.
But below 50W it is straight battery fer sure.
3.64 volts with a .34 coil = 38 actual watts. With old Samsung 25R cell mostly charged.
Put a fully charged VTC5A cell in and repeated the test and got 3.86 volts at the coil.
Which works out to close to 43W.
So straight battery voltage.
The VTC5A hits harder than the 25R due to lower internal resistance thus more voltage at the coil.
And the 25R is over a year old.
AND NO regulation in the mod.
Proof by sciencing.
the squeeze 'may' start pulsing the output the output to limit it to 50 watts. May, would have to scope it to prove one way or the other.
But below 50W it is straight battery fer sure.
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Right, that's how I would expect it to act on a .34 coil. Can you test it on a .15-.2? I'd actually love to see what you get at that point for my own interest.
Sorry do not do coils less than .25 any more.
But up till it hit 50W at least it would act just like any mech/Mosfet mod.
In theory it should hit 50W at under .27 ohms that is considering avg battery voltage sag to 3.7 volts.
Perhaps someone else who vapes lower ohms coils would like to measure voltage at the coil terminals while firing and use ohms law to figure actual wattage.
I too am curious if it does pulse the output voltage above 50 watts.
There is a group buy over on bookface if ur interested shipping is 3 bucks up to seven bottles heres a pic with dimens
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There is a group buy over on bookface if ur interested shipping is 3 bucks up to seven bottles heres a pic with dimens
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Link?
73neb
Member For 4 Years
73neb
Member For 4 Years
There is a group buy over on bookface if ur interested shipping is 3 bucks up to seven bottles heres a pic with dimens
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Thanks. I’d love to get in on it, but I don’t use FB much. Can you give me the name of the group?
Alright peeps haveing some trouble here i ordered 4 caps from NN group over on the bookface i wanted black and clear for the flave and smoke and white for the hakus told dillion id be contacting him soon for a neon green so he threw it in at no charge awsome man u sure he says no prob i got u well i get my caps today and i got the green cap but a glow ring wich to me dosent match and no white ring for the flave cap im telling myself to just deal with it as he did throw in a free cap and ring wich is a 50 dollar value but he left out a ring should i say something or just let it go cause he did hook me up but the prob is i prob wont use the glow ring and wanted the white ring for the flave cap im thinkin just let it go so i dont sound ungrateful for his awsome gesture
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