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Which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for?


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Tpat591

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Yeah Pat. A person can know the government lies. That doesn't mean that someone else telling another story is not also lying.

You're implying a false narrative that what you are reading must be true because what the government wants me to believe is not true. Or, that if I don't believe what the chan group says, that I must believe what the government says. Either is a false narrative.

In other words, I don't have to believe any of them. :)
 

Tpat591

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Yeah Pat. A person can know the government lies. That doesn't mean that someone else telling another story is not also lying.

You're implying a false narrative that what you are reading must be true because what the government wants me to believe is not true. Or, that if I don't believe what the chan group says, that I must believe what the government says. Either is a false narrative.

In other words, I don't have to believe any of them. :)
I don't quite honestly give a rat's ass what you choose to believe. I did not intend to make you believe anything at all. I merely presented information and conjecture for your consideration - take it or leave it. If you don't like what I post, be it from chans, youtube, reddit or other I suggest you block me and spare yourself the exposure to what I post.

You have already proven to me you are just another guy on the internet telling me I'm an idiot for listening to another idiot on the internet by posting stuff other idiots said that proved untrue so that of course must prove it is all untrue. That literally was your argument in that post where @hellcatrydr quite rightly observed IMHO when he replied to you
He didn't say that at all. Could you possibly be any more full of shit?
Classic libtard failed narrative-shift.

I'm always hearing you running your flap like you know something, and then
completely misquoting read: misunderstood or LYING about what they said.

You really are the hysterical little internet tuff guy of this thread.
Act like a fucking man, not a little bitch. I'm sick of your abrasive, abusive know-it-all bullshit.
btw - Thanks for that Cat!

I too believe in the Constitution (even though it was subverted long ago). I believe Trump does too, which is the only possible explanation why these seditious, treasonous criminals are still not behind bars. After Trump issued that EO we were discussing, a noticeable shift in the media rhetoric occurred immediately. All the bullshit died down and a noticeable silence took over DC while many of the guilty quietly crapped their pants because they realized that EO could be applied to their sedition and crimes.

I have heard many in interviews, a hell of a lot more qualified than you, state that order authorizes National Guard (if activated) and Marines to be used on our shore under the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.) whether you choose to believe it or not. It is obvious that there is a silent war currently raging within our intelligence communities and three letter agencies between patriots and seditious factions seeking to destroy our country and the Constitution. While I would not be happy if Trump chose to use the NG or Marines to combat these criminals on US soil, I would certainly understand if he did owing to the fact that it is painfully obvious that he cannot trust the three letter agencies to police themselves properly. I would urge Trump to use full resources of the NSA to find the guilty & I would cheer if he did arrest them all and put them behind bars for their crimes and if he activated the NG so he could choose to use the Marines to do so because he did not trust the three letter agencies because of the corruption in the three letter agencies, then so be it.
 
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I don't quite honestly give a rats ass what you choose to believe. I did not intend to make you believe anything at all. I merely presented information for your consideration - take it or leave it. If you don't like what I post, be it from chans, youtube, reddit or other I suggest you block me and spare yourself the exposure to what I post.

First of all, if you don't want a discussion on the stuff you post, then don't post it. If you post something on a discussion forum, expect a discussion. If you present information for my consideration then at least have the decency to not get your panties in a bind if I don't agree with it. Secondly, apparently you do give a rats ass what I believe because if I don't believe what you do, you get upset. I'm not upset Pat, you are. I'm giving you my opinion on your information and it apparently upset you. That's on you. Your stated goal is to get the word out. I'd have to go back and find your exact words but you basically want me to believe what you believe. Why else would you get upset because I don't believe the things you do? Thirdly, you have provided the links to the information you share to all of us. We can all go read it ourselves. So, when you repost it here, I assume you want a discussion about it here. If not, then why post it when we all know where to find it? When I post information here, I post it in order to let people here discuss and comment about it. Otherwise, what's the point?


You have already proven to me you are just another guy on the internet telling me I'm an idiot for listening to another idiot on the internet by posting stuff other idiots said that proved untrue so that proves it is all untrue. That literally was your argument in that post where @hellcatrydr rightly IMHO replied to you

Alright Pat. You show me where I called you an idiot or anything else. I said the chan idea that Trump is using the FISA court against the NSA is stupid, and I stand by it. I didn't say anything against you, personally. If you want to take it as personal, again that's on you. I don't agree with the chan conclusions and I say so. If you take it personally, that's up to you. I'll say what I think of them and their ideas but I've never called you anything like an idiot.

I too believe in the Constitution. I believe Trump does too, which is the only possible explanation why these seditious, treasonous criminals are still not behind bars. After Trump issued that EO we were discussing, a noticeable shift in the media rhetoric occurred immediately. All the bullshit died down and a noticeable silence took over DC while many of the guilty quietly crapped their pants because they realized that EO could be applied to their sedition and crimes.

No. I didn't notice that all. The Dims and the media are the same. Same bullshit on CNN today as was on 1 year ago. Same bullshit is coming out of the mouths of the Dims as ever. You might be watching different media than I am.


I have heard many in interviews, a hell of a lot more qualified than you, state that order authorizes National Guard (if activated) and Marines to be used on our shore under the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.) whether you choose to believe it or not. It is obvious that there is a silent war currently raging within our intelligence communities and three letter agencies between patriots and seditious factions seeking to destroy our country and the Constitution. While I would not be happy if Trump chose to use the NG or Marines to combat these criminals on US soil, I would certainly understand if he did owing to the fact that it is painfully obvious that he cannot trust the three letter agencies to police themselves. I would cheer if he did arrest them all and put them behind bars for their crimes and if he activated the NG so he could use the Marines to do so because he did not trust the three letter agencies because of the corruption in the three letter agencies, then so be it.

Again, I've seen lots of such interviews when Obama was President that said pretty much the same thing. Turned out they were full of shit. As I said before, all we have to do is wait. I say, nothing will come of it. It's an EO to sanction foreigners to seize US assets. Hell, there was a zerohedge story about Russian oligarchs rushing to move their US assets a few weeks ago for fear of having them seized. We'll see.

Pat, you don't have to like my opinions. If you post stuff, I'm going to offer my opinion. I also have not attacked you, personally. You might not like what I have to say about the chan stuff but you take it personally at your own risk. I've not called you an idiot or anything else. If you want it to be personal, its all on you. I'm fine with telling you what I think about the stuff you post. But, if you make it personal, that's a different road to go down and I'll change my personal opinion of you at that time. You're a good dude. Don't make it something it doesn't have to be. That's all I got to say about that, at this time. The ball is squarely in your court.
 

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Gentlemen, y'all squabble too much. Focus on that which you really can't abide, not the petty differences you might have with people whose goals are much the same as your own.
One would hope that would be the case.
 

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First of all, if you don't want a discussion on the stuff you post, then don't post it. If you post something on a discussion forum, expect a discussion. If you present information for my consideration then at least have the decency to not get your panties in a bind if I don't agree with it. Secondly, apparently you do give a rats ass what I believe because if I don't believe what you do, you get upset. I'm not upset Pat, you are. I'm giving you my opinion on your information and it apparently upset you. That's on you. Your stated goal is to get the word out. I'd have to go back and find your exact words but you basically want me to believe what you believe. Why else would you get upset because I don't believe the things you do? Thirdly, you have provided the links to the information you share to all of us. We can all go read it ourselves. So, when you repost it here, I assume you want a discussion about it here. If not, then why post it when we all know where to find it? When I post information here, I post it in order to let people here discuss and comment about it. Otherwise, what's the point?




Alright Pat. You show me where I called you an idiot or anything else. I said the chan idea that Trump is using the FISA court against the NSA is stupid, and I stand by it. I didn't say anything against you, personally. If you want to take it as personal, again that's on you. I don't agree with the chan conclusions and I say so. If you take it personally, that's up to you. I'll say what I think of them and their ideas but I've never called you anything like an idiot.



No. I didn't notice that all. The Dims and the media are the same. Same bullshit on CNN today as was on 1 year ago. Same bullshit is coming out of the mouths of the Dims as ever. You might be watching different media than I am.




Again, I've seen lots of such interviews when Obama was President that said pretty much the same thing. Turned out they were full of shit. As I said before, all we have to do is wait. I say, nothing will come of it. It's an EO to sanction foreigners to seize US assets. Hell, there was a zerohedge story about Russian oligarchs rushing to move their US assets a few weeks ago for fear of having them seized. We'll see.

Pat, you don't have to like my opinions. If you post stuff, I'm going to offer my opinion. I also have not attacked you, personally. You might not like what I have to say about the chan stuff but you take it personally at your own risk. I've not called you an idiot or anything else. If you want it to be personal, its all on you. I'm fine with telling you what I think about the stuff you post. But, if you make it personal, that's a different road to go down and I'll change my personal opinion of you at that time. You're a good dude. Don't make it something it doesn't have to be. That's all I got to say about that, at this time. The ball is squarely in your court.
Obviously I was not the only person who felt the tone of your replies were designed to intimidate or Cat would not have replied as he did.. I probably would have let it go by otherwise as I am used to the abrasive & demeaning manner of your replies to people when you disagree with them, especially if they continue to disagree with you. You never called me an Idiot but it certainly seemed clear that was what you were implying but Trust me when I say I'd have no problem telling you to f-off long before I got my panties in a bunch over it.

Where I have disagreed with your replies on a certain subject I pointed that out such as with the NSA & FISA court. While I have been against bulk collection since it was confirmed & always felt it would be abused, now that proof of that abuse has come out, I have no problem with these systems now being used to fully expose all the abusers and their plots against the president & country to the American People. By doing so the incentive to dismantle these will be high in Congress as soon as surviving politicians realize the others have been jailed because of them. No better way to get a politician to dismantel an abuse of privacy as when it is used against them. As long as these systems do exist, there must be a Court such as FISA to prevent or minimize abuse, but if FISA continues, the Judges should all be replaced with ones that will not just be rubber stamps. Again it is my fear that if FISA is eliminated foreign intelligence services will just wind up supplying the same information without the benefit of what little protection FISA does provide.

I certainly will not stop posting alternative material or opinions you don't agree with, that much is certain. You would have to show me a post where I said you need to believe what I believe, as I do not remember doing so. I do remember asking you to explain why you didn't a few times over the year I've been posting over this or that. I have admittedly been in disbelief that you adhere to the official 9-11 narrative as I would think as someone who honorably served in Kuwait you would be outraged at what they did, but I think I understand why.

The Q stuff has moved several times from one forum to the next so I have posted the new links more than once in case people weren't aware. When I have posted some of it I thought you might actually look at the content and put forth answers to the questions or comment on the meaning of the series of questions or its ramifications rather than dismiss them out of hand, but if that's what you gotta do, so be it. It very well may be just a LARP, but it is one of the most elaborate and on the money LARPS I ever saw and if it is just a LARP I gotta ask myself why such concerted efforts to schill it, discredit it and shut it down have been taken. Seems odd doesn't it?
 
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I was just carousing Infowars and saw this...it got me thinking...Here we have a book written by a known liar, and who after weeks frankly admits most of what he wrote was total conjecture and right out bullshit, and yet...the left in America is so delusional, so out of touch with reality,so entrenched in a fantasy world .....that they don't care if it's all false,they are buying a book that tells them what they want to hear despite the fact it's a fairytale for developmently arrested adults....what level of brainwashing have you undergone that you simpley at some point choose to just tune out reality and swallow the blue pill.
DRUDGE: ‘TIME TO CALL OUT WOLFF ON HIS BULLS**T’ ABOUT TRUMP
https://www.infowars.com/drudge-time-to-call-out-wolff-on-his-bullst-about-trump/
 

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I was just carousing Infowars and saw this...it got me thinking...Here we have a book written by a known liar, and who after weeks frankly admits most of what he wrote was total conjecture and right out bullshit, and yet...the left in America is so delusional, so out of touch with reality,so entrenched in a fantasy world .....that they don't care if it's all false,they are buying a book that tells them what they want to hear despite the fact it's a fairytale for developmently arrested adults....what level of brainwashing have you undergone that you simpley at some point choose to just tune out reality and swallow the blue pill.

Pffft.... I raise.
Consider... Congressional Democrats are blocking the #ReleaseTheMemo event
based on the same discredited Russia narrative in the memo that they're about to be on trial for manufacturing!!!

They are claiming the memo can't be released because
allll those American #ReleaseTheMemo hashtaggers are... really Russian bots. :)
It's all fake and Americans don't really wanna see the memo... Seriously! read the article!

Adam Schiff Panics Over FISA Memo Demands Twitter
Investigate Into ‘Russian Bots’ Pushing #ReleaseTheMemo Campaign


But not to worry... the Democrats iz investimigating teh twitterz.
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Pffft.... I raise.
Consider... Congressional Democrats are blocking the #ReleaseTheMemo event
based on the same discredited Russia narrative in the memo that they're about to be on trial for manufacturing!!!

They are claiming the memo can't be released because
allll those American #ReleaseTheMemo hashtaggers are... really Russian bots. :)
It's all fake and Americans don't really wanna see the memo... Seriously! read the article!

Adam Schiff Panics Over FISA Memo Demands Twitter
Investigate Into ‘Russian Bots’ Pushing #ReleaseTheMemo Campaign


But not to worry... the Democrats iz investimigating teh twitterz.
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I know ..WTF...who is in charge of the DNC....they are insane..."OK guys..this calling everybody a racist thing isn't working out for us anymore...it's old hat nobody is buying it...so now we start calling them russians instead".....yeah that's gonna work...I'm sorry watching the DNC lately is like watching a case of mass dementia...it ridiculous.Apparently the DNC is putting pressure on twitter and facebook to censor americans calling for the release of the memos...they think they are the statsi

The same Democrat party which is handing ballots out to illegal aliens in California and calling illegals "Americans" and is ready to shut down our goverment. for the sake of forgieners..is now calling Americans citizens...russians spies.....
 
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Obviously I was not the only person who felt the tone of your replies were designed to intimidate or Cat would not have replied as he did.. I probably would have let it go by otherwise as I am used to the abrasive & demeaning manner of your replies to people when you disagree with them, especially if they continue to disagree with you. You never called me an Idiot but it certainly seemed clear that was what you were implying but Trust me when I say I'd have no problem telling you to f-off long before I got my panties in a bunch over it.

Have it your way Pat. I put disclaimers in my posts specifically to let you know there was no animosity. "Sorry to be blunt". "I like you". "You're a good dude". Never mind though. I'll let you think whatever you like. The animosity is strictly one sided and I'll let you keep it. :)

I'm not responding to the rest of your post. If you're going to be sensitive about it, you can take it to the other boards where they'll tell ya what you want to hear. You've made it clear you don't want to hear other points of view. You can post all you want, of course. Nobody said you couldn't. Good luck in your endeavor.
 

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The fbi always conveniently loses shit where the dems are involved. Wasn't it slick willy and that rug Janet Reno heading up the whole Waco fiasco where despite the area being roped off and under law enforcement protection they lost evidence? As I recall, one piece of missing evidence was a door. A fucking door. I've lost a lot of shit in my life, 1/2" sockets, my car keys, legos when I was a kid. Never lost a fucking door because well, it's a DOOR.

Here we are with the dims and the shittons and more lost evidence. How convenient. Bet if it was a conservative or just a plain Joe like you or I the fbi were after for securities fraud or something, they'd have every piece of evidence, every note we ever passed in class in the 3rd grade etc and we'd be torched alive at the stake.

For a group that's been around for less than 100yrs, the fbi's been embroiled in scandal. J Edgar Hoover founded the damn thing from the old BoI and as the fbi's first official director was knee deep in bullshit. He was accused of gathering dirt for political purposes, illegally collecting evidence, harrassing political adversaries, keeping secret files to hold over people's heads and in general abusing power as well as exceeding the jurisdiction of the bureau. Here we are in 2017/18, same shit different day.

From the words of Truman - "we want no Gestapo or secret police. The FBI is tending in that direction. They are dabbling in sex-life scandals and plain blackmail. J. Edgar Hoover would give his right eye to take over, and all congressmen and senators are afraid of him."

The building of their headquarters is named after the crooked fuck and it's been run by crooked fucks ever since. Time to just disband it and get rid of the shitshow. They handle cases and evidence and investigations worse than sheriff Buford T Justice. They're always bitching about where to cut funding to save the government money, that's a good place to start.
 

Tpat591

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Interesting Interview of operator who was offered the job to bomb the Alfred P Murrah Building & when he turned it down because he felt it was going to far to Bomb a Federal Building on US Soil, he was arrested & they his family threatened if he talked. Interesting interview confirming what we already knew. Also discussed the Branch Davidian events.

 

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Saw the drop last night but it said that they weren't gonna release that because it showed collusion with a foreign government, That was what the post meant because Q was saying they couldn't have complete disclosure. I'm shocked it was confirmed!

FBI Official: FBI Agents Threatened Physical Harm to President Trump In Missing FBI Texts & Other “Frightening” Communications
https://truepundit.com/fbi-official...missing-fbi-texts-frightening-communications/

Doesn't mention threats to Ivanka & Barron that are supposedly in them as well.
 
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I urge everyone to read this link... it's facking shocking.
What is shocking is that it probably wont come out is their involvement in Vegas. They are already shifting the narrative back to ISIS now.

Who here believes Strock (actually a CIA plant embedded in the FBI) spent the whole spring summer and fall of 2017 diddling Page in the copy room at HR? This was a guy who rewrote Comey's exoneration of Hillary. Let that sink in.
 
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Did you see what Marc Farber said.....He would vote for Trump because the worst Trump could do is wreck the American economy...whereas Hillbillery would destroy the entire World economy....
So kidding
 
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