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Kids dying on ****** are making their own choice.
I support freedom of choice, and if they choose to die...

It’s not that cut and dry , many of these people adults ,kids etc .have gotten addicted from prescription medication for pain from injury, there was a high school wrestler good kid good grades got hooked on pain medication from a injury the streets are flooded with cheap heroine, don’t even need to shoot it like in my day . Big pharmaceutical and Dr s should be held accountable for a large portion of these people . Yes there are people who set out to get high there always will be but the epidemic is real . All this cheap shit on the streets a kid makes one mistake at a party and your fucked for life ! It happens easy .


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As a 20+ year sufferer of degenerative disc disease...
They still had a choice and made the wrong one.

Kinda like blaming a liquor store for selling you booze to become an alkie on....

Right wingers used to tout Personal Responsibility.
Not heard that in quite a while for some reason....
 

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Trump is trying to force congress to do it job..... VOTE on a bill then try to convince Trump to agree.. Don't come to him BEFORE you have the vote for approval. This is why when they meet with him he is both agreeing and disagreeing with their proposals. They are trying to convince the wrong Person or people.

He will sign what congress presents as a bill... That doesn't mean he will agree with any bill prior to a vote.
 

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We could end govt shutdowns if congress's staff and support and expenses, etc were cut off just like the other govt workers in the case of a shutdown.
I mean if it does not inconvenience them....
 

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We could end govt shutdowns if congress was given unpaid furloughs just like the other govt workers in the case of a shutdown.

No. Congress has always voted to backpay gov employees effected by previous shutdowns. They know they will just vote to backpay themselves too, if there was such a rule for them to take unpaid furloughs. ;)
 

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Ahh but if they lost all their staff and expenses, etc during the shutdown?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...uring-a-u-s-government-shutdown-quicktake-q-a

5. Do federal employees get paid?

Eventually. When a shutdown happens, most federal employees -- there are about 2.8 million of them now -- are placed on unpaid furlough. Though there "appears to be no guarantee" that they will eventually be paid, in practice they always have been, retroactively, via legislation passed by Congress, according to the Congressional Research Service.
 

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...uring-a-u-s-government-shutdown-quicktake-q-a

5. Do federal employees get paid?

Eventually. When a shutdown happens, most federal employees -- there are about 2.8 million of them now -- are placed on unpaid furlough. Though there "appears to be no guarantee" that they will eventually be paid, in practice they always have been, retroactively, via legislation passed by Congress, according to the Congressional Research Service.


Ohh I am just talking about losing all their support staff, drivers, Govt credit cards, etc DURING the shutdown.
If they suffer no inconvenience they have no incentive.
 

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Ohh I am just talking about losing all their support staff, drivers, Govt credit cards, etc DURING the shutdown.
If they suffer no inconvenience they have no incentive.

Their incentive lies with their voters. Since they are Democrat libtards that won't pass a budget, their voters are not likely to give them incentive to pass a budget.
 

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Their incentive lies with their voters. Since they are Democrat libtards that won't pass a budget, their voters are not likely to give them incentive to pass a budget.
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just the Dems are the problem?

partisan blindness....
 

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R's voted for the budget. D's voted no.

D's are solely responsible.
4 R's voted no.

and perhaps it is what is in the bill?

or should the dems just pass anything the repubs throw out there?

As I said partisan blinders.

In any case this does not inconvenience me, why should I care?
 

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4 R's voted no.

and perhaps it is what is in the bill?

or should the dems just pass anything the repubs throw out there?

As I said partisan blinders.

No. D's have no complaint about the budget(CR) itself. They voted no because they don't like a different bill, DACA. All D's admit they do not have a problem with what is in the bill. They voted no because they want a bill that has nothing to do with the budget.
 
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As a 20+ year sufferer of degenerative disc disease...
They still had a choice and made the wrong one.

Kinda like blaming a liquor store for selling you booze to become an alkie on....

Right wingers used to tout Personal Responsibility.
Not heard that in quite a while for some reason....

It’s way to available, I think kids knew when I was growing up heroine was a death sentence . Nowadays it’s like pot it’s everywhere and no needle needed it’s crazy 5 bucks and your hooked it’s evil shit Cromwell, yes you need to be responsible but think back how much stupid shit you did when you were younger . It only takes a moment of poor judgment to fuck yourself , way to easy and available. Liquor store you at least need a Id .


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It’s way to available, I think kids knew when I was growing up heroine was a death sentence . Nowadays it’s like pot it’s everywhere and no needle needed it’s crazy 5 bucks and your hooked it’s evil shit Cromwell, yes you need to be responsible but think back how much stupid shit you did when you were younger . It only takes a moment of poor judgment to fuck yourself , way to easy and available. Liquor store you at least need a Id .


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Use once and you are not addicted. Keep making the same mistake and you are addicted.
 

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Use once and you are not addicted. Keep making the same mistake and you are addicted.

So then you would agree that someone who made the mistake of comming here illegally and staying 20 years should be tossed out since they prolonged their mistake ? Or someone who chose not to get a job with healthcare or good healthcare should also go fuck off cause they didn’t fix it ? Or is just people that use heroine you have no pity on ?


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And on opiods the risk of addiction is minimized if you just use the minimal amount needed for the pain.
I used them for 15 years and had no addictive symptoms when they cut me off because of pillheads abusing them. I just hurt more. Now because of those abusers I am destroying my Liver/kidneys with naproxen and have more pain. Do not expect any sympathy from me for pillheads.
 

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And on opiods the risk of addiction is minimized if you just use the minimal amount needed for the pain.
I used them for 15 years and had no addictive symptoms when they cut me off because of pillheads abusing them. I just hurt more. Now because of those abusers I am destroying my Liver/kidneys with naproxen and have more pain. Do not expect any sympathy from me for pillheads.

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So then you would agree that someone who made the mistake of comming here illegally and staying 20 years should be tossed out since they prolonged their mistake ? Or someone who chose not to get a job with healthcare or good healthcare should also go fuck off cause they didn’t fix it ? Or is just people that use heroine you have no pity on ?
There are so many false assumptions in that post that I see no possible cognizant reply.
On immigration. We need good immigrants we do not need the bad ones. Choose to get a job with no ins? Many have no choice.
I am for Medicare for all including govt employees.
 

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There are so many false assumptions in that post that I see no possible cognizant reply.
On immigration. We need good immigrants we do not need the bad ones. Choose to get a job with no ins? Many have no choice.
I am for Medicare for all including govt employees.

I didn’t say immigrants, immigrants are not illegals . Huge difference. Just like some people have no choice on how there mind reacts to opioids many do become addicted.
I guess the real point is we need to stop the availability of illegal drugs and cheap heroine flooding in from Mexico .
I think Drs who abuse the perception writing to make money and pharmaceutical companies pushing these drugs have to be held accountable. But there is big money in dealing pain and death to be had by everyone so I guess it will never end


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I didn’t say immigrants, immigrants are not illegals . Huge difference. Just like some people have no choice on how there mind reacts to opioids many do become addicted.
I guess the real point is we need to stop the availability of illegal drugs and cheap heroine flooding in from Mexico .
I think Drs who abuse the perception writing to make money and pharmaceutical companies pushing these drugs have to be held accountable. But there is big money in dealing pain and death to be had by everyone so I guess it will never end


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Illegals are illegal and should not be here.

Yes some are more prone to opioid addiction.
If you take them until you feel good though you will become addicted.
If you only take them as needed for pain you are much less likely to become addicted.
Yes Doctors who abuse the privilege of prescribing pain meds should be punished.
Instead we get laws like in KY that make it nearly impossible for doctors to prescribe pain pills for those who need them for pain.
Easier to punish the innocent vs just go after the guilty.
And I wish every legislator that voted for that law had at least 2 herniated discs.

And no the addiction problems will not stop because humans abuse medications for recreational use.
And we keep doing multiple Narcan revivals of overdosed Pillheads. imho not any more than 2 revivals for opioid OD. Just wasting money on the Narcan.
the war on drugs was started by Reagan and it has been lost.
 

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Illegals are illegal and should not be here.

Yes some are more prone to opioid addiction.
If you take them until you feel good though you will become addicted.
If you only take them as needed for pain you are much less likely to become addicted.
Yes Doctors who abuse the privilege of prescribing pain meds should be punished.
Instead we get laws like in KY that make it nearly impossible for doctors to prescribe pain pills for those who need them for pain.
Easier to punish the innocent vs just go after the guilty.
And I wish every legislator that voted for that law had at least 2 herniated discs.

And no the addiction problems will not stop because humans abuse medications for recreational use.
And we keep doing multiple Narcan revivals of overdosed Pillheads. imho not any more than 2 revivals for opioid OD. Just wasting money on the Narcan.
the war on drugs was started by Reagan and it has been lost.

United Nations started it
Nixon named it
Reagan followed it up!
War on drugs is a dumb term anyways!


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Gettin drunk af tonight. Recover tomorrow and deal with the hell that is Monday. I'm the dude in the Gov that gets people paid, or attempts to at this point anyways. But ya I saw a comment above and it is 100% correct that the employees got paid for every prior shutdown. Just makes things a pain in the ass but that's show business baby.
 

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Gettin drunk af tonight. Recover tomorrow and deal with the hell that is Monday. I'm the dude in the Gov that gets people paid, or attempts to at this point anyways. But ya I saw a comment above and it is 100% correct that the employees got paid for every prior shutdown. Just makes things a pain in the ass but that's show business baby.

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He wasn't elected POPE.... Morals????? Based on who's belief system?
True... based on those that continue to support him morals is not an issue.
Interesting since the religious right are largely Trump supporters...

Bankruptcy has been a tool of his in the past.
 
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FBI “lose” text messages from anti trump FBI agent and his FBI lawyer mistress . But only between December 2016 and May 2017 (when Muller was appointed! Pretty convenient mistake .


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FBI “lose” text messages from anti trump FBI agent and his FBI lawyer mistress . But only between December 2016 and May 2017 (when Muller was appointed! Pretty convenient mistake .


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Yep like losing Rove's hard drive....
 

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It’s a little different on FBI issued devices .


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or Whitehouse located hard drives?

Strange about how some complain about Hitlery's deleted emails but ALL of roves disappearing were fine.
 

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or Whitehouse located hard drives?

Old outdated equipment gets destroyed, they should of learned from 2008 not to let that happen in 2016 , especially the FBI who’s sole work is on information and surveillance.
Strange how not all his texts were lost just the ones from when Trump took the White House till Muler was appointed .
Weird right ?


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Old outdated equipment gets destroyed, they should of learned from 2008 not to let that happen in 2016 , especially the FBI who’s sole work is on information and surveillance.
Strange how not all his texts were lost just the ones from when Trump took the White House till Muler was appointed .
Weird right ?


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It get's even weirder. IG Horowitz said he recieved the missing emails back in Aug. Now the FBI says they are lost.
 

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Old outdated equipment gets destroyed, they should of learned from 2008 not to let that happen in 2016 , especially the FBI who’s sole work is on information and surveillance.
Strange how not all his texts were lost just the ones from when Trump took the White House till Muler was appointed .
Weird right ?


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Ohh it is a coverup. Only question is why and covering for who?
 

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We're not talkin about Rove or any of your other lame straw-men
that you always use to try to justify your party's criminal lying scummy treasonous behavior.

Try to stay on topic Crommie.
#Obamagate!
#LOCK HER UP
 

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We're not talkin about Rove or any of your other lame straw-men
that you always use to try to justify your party's criminal lying scummy treasonous behavior.

Try to stay on topic Crommie.
#Obamagate!
#LOCK HER UP

LOL
That was pathetic even for a hard rightie like yourself.
 

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has anyone missed it?

they better open it soon before people get used to it being closed and want to keep it that way :)
 
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