GPlat what is it where can I get it?

NitroBex · Jun 4, 2014

This stuff is not cheap but it is raising quite a rage... It is just like our good old trusty Kanthal, a little softer, a lot lower ohm... Best description I have found is at Vapor Kings and they are in stock right now...

GPlat coil wire by Vapinology is a unique blend of metals that heat up differently than Kanthal A-1. This is truly unique wire that allows you to build larger coils with lower resistance.

Use Kanthal A-1 to experiment with your builds and then use G-Plat Elite in your "all day vape" device long term. Even if you use 12-15 inches a month, 15 feet will last you as long as a year!

We currently only carry the Elite line and it is available in 26, 24 and 22 gauge round in 15 foot sections. Also included in the package is 3 balls of ready to use organic cotton.

Sold in 15 foot sections individually in your choice of gauge.

- See more at: http://www.vaporkings.com/GPlat-coil-wire-by-Vapinology-p/gplat-wires.htm

5150sick · Jun 13, 2014

Thanks Nitro, I had no idea this wire existed until I read your post. Very informative!

cigarbabe · Jun 13, 2014

How do vapers know if this wire is safe to use? Has any testing been done on this wire?
C.B.

NitroBex · Jun 16, 2014

Safe is a relative word... welcome to the world of rebuilds where it is your responsibility to decide what is safe and not =) From talking to people early on when G Plat came about it was told to me (I have no definitive proof) that it is another alloy made up of the same components as A1 Kanthal, just different amounts of each base metal. And for what it's worth I have never been able to find a study that says inhaling off of Kanthal is "safe." =)

VapinChevy · Jun 17, 2014

Thanks a ton Nitro, I've heard about GPlat but wasn't sure. I think I'll check it out & buy some!!!

cigarbabe · Jun 19, 2014

G Plat is also known as Manganin correct?
Keith has asked for the MSDS sheet on this wire so still waiting on that meanwhile......

* Manganin is a trademarked name for an alloy of typically 86% copper, 12% manganese, and 2% nickel. It was first developed by Edward Weston in 1892, improving upon his Constantan (1887).

Manganin foil and wire is used in the manufacture of resistors, particularly ammeter shunts, because of its virtually zero temperature coefficient of resistance value[1] and long term stability. Several Manganin resistors served as the legal standard for the ohm in the United States from 1901 to 1990.[2] Manganin wire is also used as an electrical conductor in cryogenic systems, minimizing heat transfer between points which need electrical connections.

Manganin is also used in gauges for studies of high-pressure shock waves (such as those generated from the detonation of explosives) because it has low strain sensitivity but high hydrostatic pressure sensitivity.
*taken from Wikipedia
You can find out about the tensile strengths and heating temps by using this link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganin
C.B.

NitroBex · Jun 23, 2014

There recently has been a concern specifically with one of the base materials and a link to Parkinson disease. Again not saying safe or unsafe, I don't know =)

VapetimusPrime · Jun 25, 2014

G-Plat Public Announcement:

First of all, we would like to thank all the people who are supporting us since we started and until now. In short, yes, there is Manganese in the wire. However, it is a small component of the wire that is present in the other wires that are used for vaping also. We are unsure of why there is such a huge issue arising. Manganese is present in multivitamins also, therefore it is not bad for you unl...ess large quantities are absorbed, inhaled, ingested, etc. The Vapinology team is currently working on clearing up the issue. We are in the process of generating a data sheet for the public to see in the next 24-48 hours.
Our wires are some of the safest on the market. We are attempting to provide the information that the public is requesting while keeping in mind that we are part of a "competitive" business. Thank you all for your patience and understanding.

ALSO....part2

As all of you are aware, there have been some concerns that have been brought to our attention in regards to the composition and safety of G-Plat wires. We have spoken to the metallurgist at the facility in which our wires are being prepared and he has given us some insight regarding the “Manganese” content of G-Plat wires. Manganese has no part in the actual composition...on of both our V1.2 and Elite versions of G-Plat. However, during the manufacturing process, the wire is exposed to Manganese indirectly due to other types of wires containing Manganese being produced within the same facility.

Although it may seem as if a member of the G-Plat team issued a WARNING about the use of G-Plat wires, the conversation has been misinterpreted to make it seem as if G-Plat wires are a health risk. Our team member, knowing that our wires may have been exposed to trace amounts of Manganese, was only trying to look out for the best interest of an individual that stated he was allergic to the substance. With that being said, we would like to apologize for the delay in providing the information that the vaping community has been requesting. We are currently waiting on our metallurgist to provide us with the most accurate information about the wires (i.e. although Manganese is listed on the MSDS, it is not part of the actual composition of G-Plat wire). The information will be disclosed to the vaping industry no later than tomorrow evening.

We appreciate those of you who believe in our product and continue to stand behind us as we overcome this obstacle!

Vapedude · Jun 25, 2014

Very informative information thank you very much

Vape_geek · Jun 25, 2014

I love when vendors give real solid information, props to you guys.

bkvapes · Jun 25, 2014

Great to see the Vendor explanation here, I recently watched Rip's review on the product and I look forward to gett'n my coil twist'n hands on some.. vape on!

Soulkarve · Jun 25, 2014

Sounds interesting.

VapetimusPrime · Jun 25, 2014

UPDATE....

G-Plat Public Announcement:
We all know that the vaping industry has been awaiting information about G-Plat wires. We have been informed by our attorney, in order to protect the formula of G-Plat wire, that we should not disclose any information until he has fully examined the situation. We are fully aware of the concerns you all have about the safety of our wire. We still stand by the fact that our wire is one of the safest wires out on the market.
We thank you, our loyal c...ustomers, for the continued support that you've given us these past few days.
Regards,
Mark / Melmie / G-Plat Team

VapetimusPrime · Jun 25, 2014

SIDE NOTE...

I myself am coming up on my 1st official vapeaversary in a few weeks. And have been using GPLAT for about 3 months now and have not gone back to kanthal. its softer and doesn't have the spring recoil that kanthal has. It has a quick heat-up but a quick cool-down. the flavor and vapor production is on point. IMO Gplat is worth the extra $ vs kanthol. (maybe not if your a builder that likes to teardown and rebuild their coils all the time, could get costly.

sac · Jun 25, 2014

It's awesome that the a company would co.e here and make a solid statement about their product in light of concerns. I have yet to buy any g plat I was not holding off out of concern of safety just haven't had much idea of whether it was really much better or not, after reading this thread I am amped to buy some and I'm off to place my order.

losttexan · Jun 25, 2014

This sounds very promising. I was holding off buying this due to safety concerns but I will definitely reconsider when the MSDS is published.

5150sick · Jun 25, 2014

I could care less either way because I am already set with my wires.

But since:
"We have been informed by our attorney, in order to protect the formula of G-Plat wire, that we should not disclose any information until he has fully examined the situation."

Shouldn't a new buyer:
Holding off on making a purchase until "he has fully examined the situation." and at least makes a decent statement would be the sensible thing?

Because all this really is? A statement saying we should not disclose any information until the attorney has fully examined the situation?

They only asked for a list of metals not the 'formula'!
Just sayin'

Oh and then there is this:

1) In short, yes, there is Manganese in the wire. However, it is a small component of the wire that is present in the other wires that are used for vaping also.

2) Our team member, knowing that our wires may have been exposed to trace amounts of Manganese, was only trying to look out for the best interest of an individual that stated he was allergic to the substance.

You can't have it both ways!

Either: "Manganese in the wire. However, it is a small component of the wire that is present in the other wires that are used for vaping"

OR: "our wires may have been exposed to trace amounts of Manganese"

We are starting to use the same words ANTZ uses in their statements

losttexan · Jun 25, 2014

Not to mention, it's expensive as hell for wire!

5150sick · Jun 25, 2014

That too

Zamazam · Jun 26, 2014

losttexan said:
Not to mention, it's expensive as hell for wire!

Possibly the most expensive resistance wire I've seen. I can buy a 250" spool of 26 Gauge Kanthal for $25.

You can get Gplat at Vaporkings.com

MistaKuraudo · Jun 26, 2014

Yeah, I'd have to try it to see if it was worth it first, but I don't know if it's even worth trying for the price. If that makes any sense. LOL.

5150sick · Jun 26, 2014

If they gave away just a few inches with a purchase or something they may get more customers.
I wouln't want to get used to something I couldn't afford!

MistaKuraudo · Jun 26, 2014

Ah. Yeah, it would suck to experience something amazing only to have to settle for ordinary. Guess I'll never know what I'm missing out on though. Haha!

Vaping PBR · Jun 26, 2014

I have tried Bagnet, Bakero, Hot Wires, Boomwires , and Rene 41 wire and have enjoyed them all. Currently there is the red and blue Gplat with a new 20g Haywire coming out soon. Gplat is next on on my list of trying but I have enjoyed every wire I have tried so far.

Vaping PBR · Jun 26, 2014

If you worried about the Manganese then you don't have to used it but you might as well stop using Kanthal also since it also contains it along with the rest of the resistance wires.

The Doctor · Jun 26, 2014

Not to mention that kanthal is made of aluminum (a carcinogen and teratogen), chromium (a carcinogen) and iron (can cause chronic lung disease).

It's a moot point guys. The transition temperature of these metals, manganese included, is well over 2000° Fahrenheit. A low LOW sub ohm build barely hits 800° Fahrenheit.

Chicken little what?

The Doctor · Jun 26, 2014

cigarbabe said:
G Plat is also known as Manganin correct?
Keith has asked for the MSDS sheet on this wire so still waiting on that meanwhile......

* Manganin is a trademarked name for an alloy of typically 86% copper, 12% manganese, and 2% nickel. It was first developed by Edward Weston in 1892, improving upon his Constantan (1887).

Manganin foil and wire is used in the manufacture of resistors, particularly ammeter shunts, because of its virtually zero temperature coefficient of resistance value[1] and long term stability. Several Manganin resistors served as the legal standard for the ohm in the United States from 1901 to 1990.[2] Manganin wire is also used as an electrical conductor in cryogenic systems, minimizing heat transfer between points which need electrical connections.

Manganin is also used in gauges for studies of high-pressure shock waves (such as those generated from the detonation of explosives) because it has low strain sensitivity but high hydrostatic pressure sensitivity.
*taken from Wikipedia
You can find out about the tensile strengths and heating temps by using this link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganin
C.B.

The description alone makes me think it's not CB... "low heat transfer", "86% copper"... this wire would not be used as resistance wire...and with the high copper content, the manganese would be the least concern.

Scuba-Matt · Jun 26, 2014

Zamazam said:
Possibly the most expensive resistance wire I've seen. I can buy a 250" spool of 26 Gauge Kanthal for $25. You can get Gplat at Vaporkings.com

$1.53 a foot isn't cheap compaired kanthal

Kemosabe · Jun 26, 2014

i have never had any issue with kanthal. in fact, i love it. if it aint broke, why fix it?
with that being said, i would certainly *try* gplat....if it were a free sample.
for all we know, this stuff could be kanthal. perhaps super annealed kanthal that has the springiness removed. it would be nice to not have to torch your kanthal but honestly, ive never had a problem with springiness. i just torch, wrap and boom im off to the races.
the heat-up cool-down speed is a nice feature though. especially for builds with 24 and thicker gauge. i'll stay tuned to see how this stuff gets received.

Zamazam · Jun 26, 2014

I'll wait until the samples come out and the MSDS is released.

The Doctor · Jun 26, 2014

"If it ain't broke, why fix it" ... I'm glad folks with that mentality were not around when we were stuffing fluval foam into cartridges and vaping 808s

Evolution happens. Get on the bus, or get under the bus.

Zamazam · Jun 26, 2014

The Doctor said:
"If it ain't broke, why fix it" ... I'm glad folks with that mentality were not around when we were stuffing fluval foam into cartridges and vaping 808s

Evolution happens. Get on the bus, or get under the bus.

No kidding, I use fluval foam in my saltwater fish tanks, great microporus filter! Sucked at as e-juice absorptive.

Vaping PBR · Jun 26, 2014

Don't forget tea bags

The Doctor · Jun 26, 2014

I keep trying to forget Tea Bags....god, if ever vaping had a "wtf were we thinking" moment...

Zamazam · Jun 26, 2014

The Doctor said:
I keep trying to forget Tea Bags....god, if ever vaping had a "wtf were we thinking" moment...

I heard of that, I thought it was just a gag, but apparently not. I used my 808 with some hi temp foam from Fischer Scientific, the problem was that it was meant only as a friggin high temp hydrocarbon filter!

Kemosabe · Jun 27, 2014

Fair enough, The Doctor. you do make a good point. plus that bacon bra is legendary.

Dhim · Jun 27, 2014

The general feeling with gplat is the following compared to Kanthal:
- It's very expensive
- It's easier to work with since it's softer and more pliable, yet doesn't unflex as much
- Quicker to heat
- Slower to cool
- Flavor is about the same

I see where they are coming from where they don't want to spill out the entire recipe. It would be clonned in a heartbeat, and thus rendering their current pricing completely useless. They did the research and came up with the blend, so I understand that. It does feel a little flip / floppy about the manganese saying it does have it and then "only exposed to trace amounts". However realistically I wouldn't want to heat Kanthal up to those ridiculous temps either give whats in that as well. I'm not a scientist, but it feels like both could have similar health draw backs.

Never the less, the stuff is REALLY expensive! To pay essentially 10 times the price of Kanthal you (to quote GrimmGreen) really need "some vape budget hands".

Ronin Quickblade · Jun 27, 2014

No MSDS, no care, will not buy until MSDS is available.

cigarbabe · Jun 28, 2014

Look nobody is asking them for their "recipe".
They simply are asking is it safe to be inhaling and interacting with jooz whatever the blends.
Uh.......Where is that pesky MSDS?

C.B.

VapingCuban · Jun 28, 2014

Wow has vaping evolved. That gplat wire does seem cool but boy it's expensive.

st_andrew · Jun 29, 2014

cigarbabe said:
Look nobody is asking them for their "recipe".
They simply are asking is it safe to be inhaling and interacting with jooz whatever the blends.
Uh.......Where is that pesky MSDS?
C.B.

Maybe check under the cushion whenever I lose something I usually find it there

Bageone · Jun 30, 2014

The Doctor said:
"If it ain't broke, why fix it" ... I'm glad folks with that mentality were not around when we were stuffing fluval foam into cartridges and vaping 808s

Evolution happens. Get on the bus, or get under the bus.

Oh man I remember that.. the good ole days of vape pioneering eh?

Dhim · Jun 30, 2014

Bageone said:
Oh man I remember that.. the good ole days of vape pioneering eh?

But it wicked so much better than the polyfill and I got 2 more drops in it!

Bageone · Jun 30, 2014

For those of you wondering what the heck bluefoam was, I found this tutorial on youtube. Guess they are correct when they say nothing disappears from the internet. LOL

Dhim · Jun 30, 2014

HAHAHAHAHA my god the TW Tornado (or Ego-T)! That thing was like the Ryan Leaf of vaping. It was so hyped up about being the next big thing, that we would finally have something to hold reasonable amounts of juice... except it kept holding that juice since it didn't wick. It would empty though, after it leaked all over the place.

5150sick · Jun 30, 2014

Dhim said:
HAHAHAHAHA my god the TW Tornado (or Ego-T)! That thing was like the Ryan Leaf of vaping. It was so hyped up about being the next big thing, that we would finally have something to hold reasonable amounts of juice... except it kept holding that juice since it didn't wick. It would empty though, after it leaked all over the place.

That is one thing that really irritates me about totally wicked.
They always have some strange name for their gear (like 'titan-t' = 510 cigalike and 'tornado-t' = ego-t).
It's almost like they don't want to use the real name so people can't Google it and see how much they are getting ripped off.

Dhim · Jun 30, 2014

A lot of companies rename the generic products. I haven't ordered from TW in a long while, but you have to commend them for being pioneers. They have been around since the start and really went the extra step in providing basic getting started info to its users. It's juice actually was one of the first "premium" juices as well. In fact they really had one of the nicest sites up there when a lot of others were just thrown around low quality looking.

cigarbabe · Jun 30, 2014

If you haven't seen the new info about G-Plat check it out.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=716442021752120&set=gm.627199524042677&type=1

Jcc2k · Jul 1, 2014

cigarbabe said:
If you haven't seen the new info about G-Plat check it out.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=716442021752120&set=gm.627199524042677&type=1

Link is not working for me.

Dhim · Jul 1, 2014

cigarbabe said:
If you haven't seen the new info about G-Plat check it out.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=716442021752120&set=gm.627199524042677&type=1

Hey @cigarbabe that is a dead link. By the way, hey. This is jvapes from back in the day.

GPlat what is it where can I get it?

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