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Milo and other speakers were out of Berkeley within 1/2 hour of showing up! I'd be pissed if I traveled to see that.

Did you hear them speak?
weeelll..I don't know what to say...first off I've been in plenty of political demonstrations and a few street fights during political demonstrations..the SF bay Area is an extremely political culture.and what I witnessed at Berkeley today was the single most tepid political event I can remember.Fist of there were more cops there than I have ever seen in one place.and I've been at rallies where the black block, and communists was heavlly present.I talked to one cop who had been sent from Santa Barbra.I wouldn't be surprised there were between 100-150 cops all told involved in the crowd control.. For the most part the crowd was pretty civil nobody in a mask was anywhere in sight.The heavy police force did indeed prevent violence and violent people from showing up, so yeah police with weapons does seem to work to keep the peace.
The Plaza in which Milo was slotted to speak in had barricades everywhere like Belfast in the 70's....a ring of barricades had been placed so nobody could get within say 40 yards of milo ...to get closer you had to line up and go through a metal detecor, police pat down, and no backpack were allowed within the ring...the cops purposely did this exceedingly slow as to minimize the actual number of people who could get close enough to hear what milo was saying, I'd say about 100 people...For some reason milo did not have a microphone or bullhorn which I found very odd, as ever child in Berkeley born into a family of democrats is issued a bull horn on their bar mitzvah or upon entering public school whichever comes first...Now there is a law in Berkeley that you must obtain a permit to use a bullhorn in a demonstration so it could be they weren't able to obtain the permit I do not know,So the upshot was the mass group of people were cordoned off and from a distance to far away to hear what Milo was saying watched him address the crowd blow kisses and sign people's placards...it was like a fucking rock band....Pamela Geller was their and she addressed the crowd and she was pretty animated,their were police on the rooftops of several building as Pamela Geller has a fatwa for her death imposed by muslim mullahs. but Mike Cernovich was there and he looked bored and annoyed....all in all it was a fucking joke, and Milo has some splaining to do. a note about Berkeley...the first time I spent time in Berkeley was as a kid when my Dad was getting an advanced degree there I spent a summer there in like the late 60's early 70's...the major througfare and cultural hub of the UC campus was a street called Telegraph Avenue at that time it was an open human sewer... as a little kid walking down that street I'd be offered drugs to buy on every single block. the dregs of humanity collected like floatsom on the street.it was worse than the Tenderloin of SF at the time...Berkeley was gritty...I remember walking to the entrance of the University and at the gates there were soap boxes like 4 or 5 set up and anybody could just climb up on one and start speaking..on one box would be a Black Panther spewing race hate on another some guy talking about Jesus and armegedon on another some bespectacled chubby hippie chick reading horrible poetry in a whisper... it was a zoo it was brilliant.Today Telegraph Avenue around the University is starting to transform into something more akin to Rodeo Drive than the Tenderloin....the students nowdays are much much richer much more pron to be forgien nationals or the very wealthy of America. they are not the childeren of the working class and don't have a clue as to what the lives of the working class are like, they are not Social Justice Warriors they are virtue posturing elitists who think they can buy their street creds and absolve themselves of privledge by throwing the working class and especially the white working class up as a sacrifical goat.
The University of Berkeley has done Antifas work for them using the power of the state bueracracy to throw up a barrier to hearing free speech...I was told this event cost the city of Berkeley about 900,000 dollars I have no idea if that is true, but if it is...then milo needs to keep coming back monthly in order to bankrupt the city of Berkeley until the city puts pressure on the University to allow all speakers a safe venue in which to share ideas.
 

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Couldn't agree more & sorry it was such a bust. I just found this video after I had searched all day for what happened at the event. Berkeley did everything they could to torpedo Milo, Cernovich, & Pamela Gellar from being able to speak freely. They made sure no bull horn, audio enhancement, or camera equipment could be used. They purposely bottle-necked attendees from access due to delaying high security checks so they could not gain entrance and refused to allow reporters and cameras into the event. Cops cut event short. Utter bullshit.

They failed to remove the single disruptive ANTIFA member that they probably planted there despite his breaking the Law by repeatedly shouting expletives in protest, attempted theft of protest signs, and being a pubic nuisance at the event. Several attendees request his removal but they should have insisted on pressing charges against him to have him removed.

Here is what is probably the only video record of what occurred there today. Shame. Berkeley needs to have there funding removed and their administration needs to be removed for obvious multiple violations in failure to enforce Conservative Free Speech on campus.

 
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pulsevape

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Couldn't agree more & sorry it was such a bust. I just found this video after I had searched all day for what happened at the event. Berkeley did everything they could to torpedo Milo, Cernovich, & Pamela Gellar from being able to speak freely. They made sure no bull horn, audio enhancement, or camera equipment could be used.

They failed to remove the single disruptive ANTIFA member that they probably planted there despite his breaking the Law by repeatedly shouting expletives in protest, attempted theft of protest signs, and being a pubic nuisance at the event.

Here is what is probably the only video record of what occurred there today. Shame. Berkeley needs to have there funding removed and their administration needs to be removed for obvious multiple violations in failure to enforce Conservative Free Speech on campus.

Apparently the student group that invited Milo has filed a couple of suits with the Department of Justice against the university..it seems the Administration was threatening the students with destroying their acedemic lives....the entire alt-right, new right whatever you want to call them, the writers speakers youtube personalities should ban together their collective talent and resources and each do what they can to target shutting down the University of Berkeley....as an aside from my venture I also noticed.....Berkeley does not have many good looking women...
 

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Apparently the student group that invited Milo has filed a couple of suits with the Department of Justice against the university..it seems the Administration was threatening the students with destroying their acedemic lives....the entire alt-right, new right whatever you want to call them, the writers speakers youtube personalities should ban together their collective talent and resources and each do what they can to target shutting down the University of Berkeley....as an aside from my venture I also noticed.....Berkeley does not have many good looking women...
Nothing attractive about an angry woman to me with the possible exception of Tomi Lahren. She carries it off with grace.
 

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LMAO
the NFL seems to be uniting in it's protest against trump :)

Hmm seems like a lot of foot ball fans would be trump supporters?
Trump may have unleashed his biggest mistake yet.

Steelers skipped the national anthem....

But the constitution says they have to play it right?
 

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Nothing attractive about an angry woman to me with the possible exception of Tomi Lahren. She carries it off with grace.
some angry chicks can be hot.
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but it wasn't a total wash ...I mean Milo carved out a big chunk of flesh out of berkeley..he made them pay through the nose all those cops cost them a boatload in fact I heard the city of Berkley had to cut funding to their schools.. this year they had to cancel a series of books for their Kindergarten kids titled "Both my Mommies have dicks"...Milo also put a big choke chain on antifa...so some good came of it.
 

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Attorney: Kushner used private email account to talk to WH officials

OHH DAMN! He's been taking Hillary lessons?

I am sure that right wingers will be all over this.
Defending him :)

 

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LMAO
the NFL seems to be uniting in it's protest against trump :)

Hmm seems like a lot of foot ball fans would be trump supporters?
Trump may have unleashed his biggest mistake yet.

Steelers skipped the national anthem....

But the constitution says they have to play it right?

I thought most trump supporters don’t work?!


I BAM
 

Tpat591

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LMAO
the NFL seems to be uniting in it's protest against trump :)

Hmm seems like a lot of foot ball fans would be trump supporters?
Trump may have unleashed his biggest mistake yet.

Steelers skipped the national anthem....

But the constitution says they have to play it right?
The left just doesn't get it, & never will. Trump is trolling the NFL & the Left into feeding a resurgence of patriotism in America while simultaneously discrediting the Media, Liberal Pudits, & Pols who rabidly defend the arrogance & disrespect these players and the left have fed into this society for decades to try and tear it down. America is sick of that bullshit.

The NFL has aligned itself as the all American past-time Sport for it's entire existence and Trump Supporters are by & large its bread & butter & as usual, this will backfire on them badly. Sure a couple of leftist will tune in to watch them kneel during the Anthem but after a week or two when the memes remind everyone what overpaid prima-donnas these out of control criminals making millions while disrespecting the country actually are, the NFL will be forced to stop the bullshit when it hurts their bottom line.

Trump will be proven right again. The left will look like the idiots they are again.

Leftists fall for it every time. Sad they haven't figured out how it works yet.


They actually think they are winning hearts & minds when all they do is drive more to the right and further motivate the Patriots in America to oppose your party & all you stand for.

if you thought 2016 was bad, just wait for 2018.
 
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About a year ago as a reaction to a facebook group with the words Constitutional Patriots as part of their name
mistakenly attributing the 2nd Amendment to the Declaration of Independence I started a community/vanity
page where I posted the text of The Declaration of Independence as well as the Constitution of the United States
and all the amendments for ready reference.

Yesterday I found this comment in reaction to the Declaration.
A guy named Kevin said: "super long winded-lost interest"
 

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A thought...
The British supporters during the American Revolution said that the pro Americans were being unpatriotic and disrespectful to the flag....
It WAS a British territory after all...
 

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A question do all of you stand and place your hand over your heart when a football game begins on TV and the national anthem plays?
Or do you just kick back in the recliner with another drink of beer?
Hypocrisy much?
 

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A little factoid for those who do not know history.

The Bellamy salute is a salute described by Francis Bellamy, the author of the American Pledge of Allegiance, as the gesture which was to accompany the pledge. During the period when it was used with the Pledge of Allegiance, it was sometimes known as the "flag salute". Both the Pledge and its salute originated in 1892. Later, during the 1920s and 1930s, Italian fascists and Nazis adopted a salute which was very similar, and which was derived from the Roman salute, a gesture that was popularly (albeit erroneously) believed to have been used in ancient Rome.[1] This resulted in controversy over the use of the Bellamy salute in the United States. It was officially replaced by the hand-over-heart salute when Congress amended the Flag Code on December 22, 1942.

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so by doing the hand over heart thing vs the Bellamy Salute to the flag are you Respecting the flag or congress who changed the salute?

Or just following the crowd?

Interesting that it took 10 years or so for Congress to change the flag salute after fascists and Nazi's adopted it. We were well into WW2 before congress changed it....
 
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A little factoid for those who do not know history.

The Bellamy salute is a salute described by Francis Bellamy, the author of the American Pledge of Allegiance, as the gesture which was to accompany the pledge. During the period when it was used with the Pledge of Allegiance, it was sometimes known as the "flag salute". Both the Pledge and its salute originated in 1892. Later, during the 1920s and 1930s, Italian fascists and Nazis adopted a salute which was very similar, and which was derived from the Roman salute, a gesture that was popularly (albeit erroneously) believed to have been used in ancient Rome.[1] This resulted in controversy over the use of the Bellamy salute in the United States. It was officially replaced by the hand-over-heart salute when Congress amended the Flag Code on December 22, 1942.

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so by doing the hand over heart thing vs the Bellamy Salute to the flag are you Respecting the flag or congress who changed the salute?

Or just following the crowd?

Interesting that it took 10 years or so for Congress to change the flag salute after fascists and Nazi's adopted it. We were well into WW2 before congress changed it....
Hook, Line & Sinker......Tomorrow you will be laughing that Trump lost the Luther Strange primary despite endorsing him.....Trump plays the left like a fiddle.
 
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None of our founding fathers pledged alliegance to the US flag. No one pledged alliegance to the flag before 1892?
I think they swore to uphold the Constitution. A set of rules not a symbol.
Were they all unpatriotic and unamerican and unrespecting of those who had fought for the USA?
 
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