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Infinite_Vapr

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When your building a coil and youre not concerned with being able to use it in TC mode does it matter if you mix wire materials? For example if I was building a fused clapton could I use Nichrome wire for the cores and SS or Kanthal for the clapton wire?
 

KarmicRage

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Yeah you can use different wires for the different parts of the coil. Can help speed up ramp up time if ya use the right mix

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When your building a coil and youre not concerned with being able to use it in TC mode does it matter if you mix wire materials? For example if I was building a fused clapton could I use Nichrome wire for the cores and SS or Kanthal for the clapton wire?
Sure can.

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When your building a coil and youre not concerned with being able to use it in TC mode does it matter if you mix wire materials? For example if I was building a fused clapton could I use Nichrome wire for the cores and SS or Kanthal for the clapton wire?
The wrap isn't part of the circuit so it doesn't affect the resistance so the alloy doesn't matter. The only way the wrap will change the resistance is when you use something obnoxiously large and you end up with a higher ID.
However if you do fused clapton with one n80 core and one SS core or if you do a staged build the lower resistance part of the circuit will heat faster.

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HondaDavidson

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The wrap isn't part of the circuit so it doesn't affect the resistance so the alloy doesn't matter. The only way the wrap will change the resistance is when you use something obnoxiously large and you end up with a higher ID.
However if you do fused clapton with one n80 core and one SS core or if you do a staged build the lower resistance part of the circuit will heat faster.

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The wrap... is part of the circuit......it is just higher enough in resistance. Usually to be if minimal electrical affect..... this is part of the reason you don't wrap Kanthal cores with say Ni or Ti wires.... because then the wrap might become the conductor do to ohm rates

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whiteowl84

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The wrap... is part of the circuit......it is just higher enough in resistance. Usually to be if minimal electrical affect..... this is part of the reason you don't wrap Kanthal cores with say Ni or Ti wires.... because then the wrap might become the conductor do to ohm rates

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So you're saying electricity will divert power from something that's 0.1ohm to pass through something that's 1kohm? Who tells you this crap? I wrap A1 with SS alot. Lots of people use SS over n80. Hell Vander just made a build with a nifethal 70 wrap. You know I've never seen the wrap start glowing? Probably because if you were using a copper wrap the thing would still be in the thousands.
Electricity takes the path of least resistance...that's part of ohms law. That's why it's extremely rare for lightning to strike everything at the same time despite everything around it being an equally shitty conductor.

Here, the top one is SS, the bottom is A1.
Steamengine just runs numbers to get an answer and it runs the numbers on every part of the build. See the 0.001 difference? It's in the THOUSANDS place. Electricity takes the path of least resistance...so you really think ohms law breaks it's self just for vaping?
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This is another great example of you going in a thread where a new builder is trying to learn something simple just to try to complicate it for them.
 
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Infinite_Vapr

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ok now I am a bit confused. Why wouldnt the wrap glow? If the difference in resistance is only .001 ohm from the wrap to the core then it seems like the whole thing would heat up evenly.

If it doesnt heat up evenly then why would you want to put a wrap around it? It seems like it would be less effective this way.
 

whiteowl84

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The wrap does glow but it doesn't start glowing. The coil does then the wrap does.
The difference between the wrap and the core is far greater than 0.001. The wrap is in the thousands of ohms while the coil is in the tenths.
The 0.001 difference is the difference of an entire coil wrapped with A1 vs SS...since SS is half the resistance of A1 that 0.001 difference represents math being done and no difference in the real world. Only the core conducts.

Bigger wrap, slower coil. That's why most of us use 0.08mm 40g.

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