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Kinkyvapurrr

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I have a problem getting out the Phillips head grub screws all the time! What am I doing wrong? Pissn me off LOOL
Nvm I think it's just the shit screw drivers they give us haaa!
 

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Some atties are notorious for having cheap, shitty screws
 

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Some atties are notorious for having cheap, shitty screws
Agreed --- I also fixed the issue by getting a real Hex driver that was good, my problems is now gone.
The ones that are sent with the atty are crap and will strip out themselves very easily, then cause the screw itself to strip.

Amazon -- Wiha 26313 1.3mm Key Hex Driver with 40mm Blade -- $6.75

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If having issues with Phillips head screws, same resolution. Good screwdriver set.
Again -- fixed my problem.

Amazon -- Wiha 26194 Screwdriver Set, Phillips With Precision Handles, 4 Piece -- $19.88

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Why these you ask? ;)

High performance blades and tip
Wiha precision series screw drivers feature high performance blades made with chrome-vanadium-molybdenum steel with a hard chrome finish, giving you long life and exact fit. The tip has a hard chromed no-slip surface.

And, in the event you DO need new grub screws...

Amazon -- uxcell 50Pcs M2.5 x 3mm Stainless Steel Hex Socket -- $10.48

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HondaDavidson

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Stripped screw heads is most often from over tightening of crappy screws in crappy threads using the wrong sized driver.

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Stripped screw heads is most often from over tightening of crappy screws in crappy threads using the wrong sized driver.

I disagree with the bold -- why? because there "were" many times that I was not over tightening my grub screws and they still stripped out, especially when trying to get SS Fused-Clapton coils to tighten down to get good contact. Crappy screws and crappy tools -- yes.

Even with my Wiha Hex driver, I can still strip out the factory screws easily, just for the simple reason the screws are crap, and not stainless steel grub screws.
 

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I use a precision torque driver. If you don't want to invest in one, I suggest using short hex bits without the driver: that way you won't have enough purchase on the tool to overdo the screw too easily. Use quality bits to avoid stripping the heads.
 

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Agreed --- I also fixed the issue by getting a real Hex driver that was good, my problems is now gone.
The ones that are sent with the atty are crap and will strip out themselves very easily, then cause the screw itself to strip.

Amazon -- Wiha 26313 1.3mm Key Hex Driver with 40mm Blade -- $6.75

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If having issues with Phillips head screws, same resolution. Good screwdriver set.
Again -- fixed my problem.

Amazon -- Wiha 26194 Screwdriver Set, Phillips With Precision Handles, 4 Piece -- $19.88

View attachment 87341

Why these you ask? ;)

High performance blades and tip
Wiha precision series screw drivers feature high performance blades made with chrome-vanadium-molybdenum steel with a hard chrome finish, giving you long life and exact fit. The tip has a hard chromed no-slip surface.

And, in the event you DO need new grub screws...

Amazon -- uxcell 50Pcs M2.5 x 3mm Stainless Steel Hex Socket -- $10.48

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Agreed - the Wihi sets are a worthwhile investment if you are serious about building

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Kinkyvapurrr

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Agreed --- I also fixed the issue by getting a real Hex driver that was good, my problems is now gone.
The ones that are sent with the atty are crap and will strip out themselves very easily, then cause the screw itself to strip.

Amazon -- Wiha 26313 1.3mm Key Hex Driver with 40mm Blade -- $6.75

View attachment 87340

If having issues with Phillips head screws, same resolution. Good screwdriver set.
Again -- fixed my problem.

Amazon -- Wiha 26194 Screwdriver Set, Phillips With Precision Handles, 4 Piece -- $19.88

View attachment 87341

Why these you ask? ;)

High performance blades and tip
Wiha precision series screw drivers feature high performance blades made with chrome-vanadium-molybdenum steel with a hard chrome finish, giving you long life and exact fit. The tip has a hard chromed no-slip surface.

And, in the event you DO need new grub screws...

Amazon -- uxcell 50Pcs M2.5 x 3mm Stainless Steel Hex Socket -- $10.48

View attachment 87343


Yes I figured that out too when I used a better one .. but they still don't come out very easy but easier I guess.. I have a hard time getting the build centered and high enough that the cap fits on.. they make it look so easy ..

Ooh ya also, anyone familiar w nifethal 70 wire from kidney puncher? I built a coil w it and my meter reader wouldn't read it.. uugh . Know why? Is it the wrong kind? Concrete River uses it
 

Kinkyvapurrr

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Yes I figured that out too when I used a better one .. but they still don't come out very easy but easier I guess.. I have a hard time getting the build centered and high enough that the cap fits on.. they make it look so easy ..

Ooh ya also, anyone familiar w nifethal 70 wire from kidney puncher? I built a coil w it and my meter reader wouldn't read it.. uugh . Know why? Is it the wrong kind? Concrete River uses it

I just need one hex driver for $6? Cool!
 

Johnnytraveler

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Is there a good kit with various sizes of grub screws?

I would love to have 1 box with various sized grubs.
 

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Agreed --- I also fixed the issue by getting a real Hex driver that was good, my problems is now gone.
The ones that are sent with the atty are crap and will strip out themselves very easily, then cause the screw itself to strip.

Amazon -- Wiha 26313 1.3mm Key Hex Driver with 40mm Blade -- $6.75

View attachment 87340

If having issues with Phillips head screws, same resolution. Good screwdriver set.
Again -- fixed my problem.

Amazon -- Wiha 26194 Screwdriver Set, Phillips With Precision Handles, 4 Piece -- $19.88

View attachment 87341

Why these you ask? ;)

High performance blades and tip
Wiha precision series screw drivers feature high performance blades made with chrome-vanadium-molybdenum steel with a hard chrome finish, giving you long life and exact fit. The tip has a hard chromed no-slip surface.

And, in the event you DO need new grub screws...

Amazon -- uxcell 50Pcs M2.5 x 3mm Stainless Steel Hex Socket -- $10.48

View attachment 87343
I bought these shortly after I started vaping and I've never stripped a single screw. As a builder I tighten the piss out of them and I usually have a new build every day or every other day.

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Kinkyvapurrr

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I bought these shortly after I started vaping and I've never stripped a single screw. As a builder I tighten the piss out of them and I usually have a new build every day or every other day.

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Oh? The wihi? I think I have no choice but be a builder.. can't afford to buy handmade coils and why should I? I learned a whole lot just to make my own juice I might as well be well rounded :bingo::bingo:
Since you're a builder can u help me w the nifethal I have plz? You familiar w it or no?
 

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Yes.
The one I got had sizes 1.3 and 1.5 plus 3 or 4 others I'll never use.
For everything else I just use normal Philips drivers.
Wiah makes great Allen drivers for them to have survived this whole time.
 

Kinkyvapurrr

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Yes.
The one I got had sizes 1.3 and 1.5 plus 3 or 4 others I'll never use.
For everything else I just use normal Philips drivers.
Wiah makes great Allen drivers for them to have survived this whole time.


I probably have these in my tool bag.. I had to buy hex drivers I think lol.. I'm also a teamster for setting up and tearing down conventions , on call but they never call so I haven't used my tools very many times.. haaa! I'll definitely look. But I don't remember buying anything this small.. actually don't think I did.
Agreed --- I also fixed the issue by getting a real Hex driver that was good, my problems is now gone.
The ones that are sent with the atty are crap and will strip out themselves very easily, then cause the screw itself to strip.

Amazon -- Wiha 26313 1.3mm Key Hex Driver with 40mm Blade -- $6.75

View attachment 87340

If having issues with Phillips head screws, same resolution. Good screwdriver set.
Again -- fixed my problem.

Amazon -- Wiha 26194 Screwdriver Set, Phillips With Precision Handles, 4 Piece -- $19.88

View attachment 87341

Why these you ask? ;)

High performance blades and tip
Wiha precision series screw drivers feature high performance blades made with chrome-vanadium-molybdenum steel with a hard chrome finish, giving you long life and exact fit. The tip has a hard chromed no-slip surface.

And, in the event you DO need new grub screws...

Amazon -- uxcell 50Pcs M2.5 x 3mm Stainless Steel Hex Socket -- $10.48

View attachment 87343

So if u need new screws you don't use the ones they provide you use your own.. or you BUILD from scratch or something.. ? And if they're not stainless but they look metal what are they probably, aluminum? Do you have really expensive Atty's? Is there a big difference? I'm not sure in the near future if ever I'll have a $100-200 Atty but curious about them if they're worth it and what the differences are. I have only what I have had to compare anything to..

Oh.. I can't get the screw off my kanger sub ohm deck..it has one screw on one side .. any suggestions how to get it off.. I've tried every screwdriver I have ..?
 

Kinkyvapurrr

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I haven't quite mastered this app yet either :facepalm: sry.. I think my texts everywhere.. it's hard to follow me probably idk? lol I know it's hard to follow myself!
 

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Everyone seems to have their preferences, hex, simple slotted. I've still yet to see any torx. Seems a simple solution, they don't have to reinvent hardware or go through the process of lab testing them. They're pretty well proven, can be used on small screws. Even the tiny top cap screws on my alien are torx and they're smaller than grub screws. Small form factor plus no slipping and very little chance of stripping the head (like with phillips). What amazes me, one industry discovers a better mouse trap but then a new industry starts up and acts as if they have to start from scratch ignoring progress already made.
 

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I haven't quite mastered this app yet either :facepalm: sry.. I think my texts everywhere.. it's hard to follow me probably idk? lol I know it's hard to follow myself!


Figured it out nvm about my nifethal LOOL ... not that anyone helped me but that's ok, I got this! But, am still waiting on my other questions.. no hurry I'm patient...:tantrum:
 

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People already said it so I am just going to repeat it...use quality tools, and the right size.

Wiha and Wera tools and bit-driver sets are things of quality, precision, and beauty.

I had them before I vaped so I could repair computers, smartphones, cameras, and all manner of small electronic goodies.

They work absolutely on-point with vape gear...solid bite of the bit head, no stripped screws, no slipping, no fuss.

Cheers,
Ian
 

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Phillips head screws are engineered to strip.
Use socket heads instead and good socket head tools.
 

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Phillips head screws are engineered to strip.

It used to seem like that before for me....but once I had Wiha and Wera drivers, everything changed.

The bite is so good that sometimes a Phillips head screw will stay attached to the driver after coming out as if it is magnetic, even though it isn’t.

The other thing that really impressed me is that if I got a device to repair that had screws that were already stripped, the Wiha and Wera drivers could still grab hold and remove them without slip or difficulty.

I so agree with Synphul...why aren’t makers using Torx? It really is a better mousetrap.

And what is up with Geek Vape using slotted in the Ammit dual-coil for the build deck? I’m not sure they could have made a worse choice. :facepalm:

Cheers,
Ian
 

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I so agree with Synphul...why aren’t makers using Torx? It really is a better mousetrap.
Yep Torx.

And yes a GOOD phillips screwdriver minimized the stripping with phillips head screws.
But most phillips head screwdrivers are not good and just strip away.

Yep on the slotted screws. If not a good WELL Fitting screwdriver slotted screws round off in a heartbeat.
 

Kinkyvapurrr

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It used to seem like that before for me....but once I had Wiha and Wera drivers, everything changed.

The bite is so good that sometimes a Phillips head screw will stay attached to the driver after coming out as if it is magnetic, even though it isn’t.

The other thing that really impressed me is that if I got a device to repair that had screws that were already stripped, the Wiha and Wera drivers could still grab hold and remove them without slip or difficulty.

I so agree with Synphul...why aren’t makers using Torx? It really is a better mousetrap.

And what is up with Geek Vape using slotted in the Ammit dual-coil for the build deck? I’m not sure they could have made a worse choice. :facepalm:

Cheers,
Ian


Why is that w slotted? Was looking at the Goon Atty I believe and it has that, it's not good? Or the recoil I think I want.. what's your fav for flavor ?
 

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Why is that w slotted? Was looking at the Goon Atty I believe and it has that, it's not good? Or the recoil I think I want.. what's your fav for flavor ?
If the screwdriver blade has rounded edges or is not the same thickness as the slot in the screw head you should expect for the shoulders on the screw head to get rounded off some and they will begin to cause issues.
 

Kinkyvapurrr

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If the screwdriver blade has rounded edges or is not the same thickness as the slot in the screw head you should expect for the shoulders on the screw head to get rounded off some and they will begin to cause issues.


Forgive my ignorance but I don't understand what you're saying at all.. I'm sorry. If it's over my head I understand. But, you personally wouldn't recommend getting an Atty w slot screws ?
 

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Forgive my ignorance but I don't understand what you're saying at all.. I'm sorry. If it's over my head I understand. But, you personally wouldn't recommend getting an Atty w slot screws ?
Nope the atty should be ok. However find a screwdriver that fits in the slot on the screw snug.
 

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