Frustrated with DIY

RonJS said:

I'm still wondering why I just bought 20 pounds of Liquid Propane for my grill.
(I mainly use charcoal)
Ron
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"I don’t know, I don’t care, and it doesn’t make any difference."-Jack Kerouac

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You sure it wasn't 9,071ml? Lol


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The Cromwell said:

I would use drops in that case. I often mix drops and volume measurements for trial batches. I tend to make 20 ml trial batches in a 30 ml bottle.

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to share something accurately though or repeat those result every single time you would need a better means. 1 gram weighs one gram no matter what. when it comes to drops everything is working against the repeatable result. bottle manufacture, angle of bottle, amount of fluid vs air the list goes on https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10396391 Im not trying to argue with you guys but you cant sit here and tell me Im wrong. I was in the business of making things taste exactly the same every single time. Ive tried every method and I found for myself nothing beat weightt for repeated precise exact and duplicatable results.

I used syringes for a week and said screw all that, bought a mini scale for like $10 on amazon.



Totally joking but I crack up at this picture lol


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hahaha the best way is whatever way you prefer and whatever way fits your style. its not like anyone but maybe HIC could taste the difference between 0.17% and 0.23 % lol

For over 2 years I have been doing all DIY. And have used well under $20 worth of consumable supplies. Syringes and such.

wllmc said:

to share something accurately though or repeat those result every single time you would need a better means. 1 gram weighs one gram no matter what. when it comes to drops everything is working against the repeatable result. bottle manufacture, angle of bottle, amount of fluid vs air the list goes on https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10396391 Im not trying to argue with you guys but you cant sit here and tell me Im wrong. I was in the business of making things taste exactly the same every single time. Ive tried every method and I found for myself nothing beat weightt for repeated precise exact and duplicatable results.

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I use standard pipettes for drops. Bottle droppers are too variable. And once I get a recipe I will keep making I convert to ml for larger batches.

Scale all the way.

Mykreign said:

You sure it wasn't 9,071ml? Lol

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It could have been. It says 20 lbs. my receipt, but the kid filling it was using a scale and I think his mind was elsewhere.

Ron
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"Being right half the time beats being half-right all the time."- Malcolm Forbes

In my humble experience, failure is more common than success with DIY...It's a lot like golf!....but when you hit the sweet spot, there's nothing like the smug, self satisfaction that you get, having cracked it......until, brought back down to earth with a crash by the toxic waste you've produced, the inspired recipe for which, came to you, during fitful sleep!

mingerz said:

In my humble experience, failure is more common than success with DIY...It's a lot like golf!....but when you hit the sweet spot, there's nothing like the smug, self satisfaction that you get, having cracked it......until, brought back down to earth with a crash by the toxic waste you've produced, the inspired recipe for which, came to you, during fitful sleep!

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If it weren't for all the mistakes I've made in my life, I never would have learned anything. The same goes for DIY juice. For instance, I've learned that even a little too much key lime ends up tasting like soap.

I can understand the scale vs syringes argument. If I made the same shit, for just me, over and over again no problem with the syringes. But that's never the case in my situation. I mix for like 15 people that all like different stuff so for me scale is the way to go no question. Call me a sadist but I like to find the actual gravity of each flavoring, keep an excel document with said gravity, use that to plug in numbers into another spreadsheet with all the calculation formulas built in and bam, consistent results every single time and little to no cleanup (and no maths). I still use a syringe for the nicotine but that's it, even then I just use it as means of transporting the nicotine to the bottle that is on my scale

But back to the OP's actual thread title here. DIY IS frustrating, but that's part of the fun I spose. Once you do nail something down that is your own its quite a satisfying feeling. Just keep plugging away, you'll get it!

Deeks said:

Once you do nail something down that is your own its quite a satisfying feeling. Just keep plugging away, you'll get it!

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This exactly. Pretty much every "bought" ejuice I tried, after I got away from Virginia tobacco, dissatisfied me in some crucial way, and even other peoples' recipes just weren't doing it for me -- so I read recipe after recipe after recipe, got a real "feel" for what might go into making a decent "strawberry & cream" flavor, and also applied some basic principles I'd picked up in the TFA thread over at Butthead Central, and created my own strawberry & cream recipe. I don't give a single rat's ass if most people think I wildly overdo the flavoring, I'm not making it for them but for ME, and I LOVE IT, I've never tasted ANY ejuice as good as my own strawberry & cream. But I did have some failures before I arrived at it -- which is why I completly stopped trying to "clone" anything. Maybe "master mixers" can get it done, but I finally chalked it up as impossible.

Andria

So I've made two really good juices since my last 20 or so failures. It was a rough couple weeks in mixing lol.

Thanks again everyone. You made it easier to keep chugging along.


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