Bleh! i was only kidding
i hate spitting!! my shit dont spit unless my wick is dead if it did (which ive been lazy at times) i burn my tongue into untasteyness
Then that leaves airflow as the only possible difference how/where the air hits the coils
3/32 i forget the conversion of that... which in turn made forget which drill bit i use all i know is mine comes out to 3.96mm
We liked the Griffin, but some desired more air and larger deck so they went for the Griffin 25.... And they didn't find the build quality to be amazing..... We talked about capacity, quality of steel, ease of build and leaking.... It took us several hours of talking and drinking to come to final thoughts......Grrr al this talk of other tanks and no opinion of my PRECIOUS!!!?!?!?!? HOW DARE YOU SIR, HOW DARE YOU!!
The 25 Plus they altered quite a bit while the 22 to the 25 was simply an enlargement. which is why i was curious about opinion
Then that leaves airflow as the only possible difference how/where the air hits the coils
Going for the latest and the guys love large capacities.....The 25 Plus they altered quite a bit while the 22 to the 25 was simply an enlargement. which is why i was curious about opinion
Hmmm, this leads me to ask, have you ever considered an Aromamizer by steamcrave?? the side airflow may just be what trips your tirgger
i enjoyed them for a bit
Well from a griffin user from the 22 to the 25 to now the 25 Plus the 25 Plus really nails just about everythign on my check list for ease of wicking to build comfort to filling to size.... everything for me is nailed with it... yea it is only 5ml or 6 i forget but somehwere around there but i love it... i loev being able to take it apart full of juice and not spill a drop. ONLY CON i have is that i hate the delrin topcap they sent to bypass the top airflow... it doesnt thread as smooth/easy as the ss top airflow topper... ease of taking off the top to fill was easy too (tried the ammit - original - it just would always accidently unscrew more than it should some juice lube helped as i first tried without but still was not ideal)
Hmmm, this leads me to ask, have you ever considered an Aromamizer by steamcrave?? the side airflow may just be what trips your tirgger
Well loosing a couple of ml for the nicer deck ok, not using the top airflow well we didn't care.... Different top caps also good on the plus.... Easy to wick on the Griffin 25 plus....Delrin screws in hard and easy to damage with cross threading and rough on all tanks.
I wish i could tell you, but as your preferences are soooooooooooo almost polar opposite from mine i can only speculate from the outside looking in
it took me years and years and then tack on a few more to find what i consider to be vaping nirvana... If only the B&M's had just about every vape style possible on tester..... but then they would lose out on money from you coming back after smoething inst as satisfying
It was pictured a couple times with the kayfun when I looked it up and brought back memories. Apparently they were made for eachother
I wish i could tell you, but as your preferences are soooooooooooo almost polar opposite from mine i can only speculate from the outside looking in
Don't pet the sweaty things or feed the hairy ones, if it itches, scratch.
I think I've gone 1.5-2mm before just for fun, but of course the cotton got burned all up in it..and yes, air is good to control..lol..I have no clue why aesthetics are being discussed to begin with..but the tfv line are a magnet. The Smok guys seem the most concerned with being cool, and I like it..U guys have convinced me to check out some rda mods though, maybe a squonker...It's still drip enabled,right? So I can steadily check my coils?It seems I am prone to always using 3.5 mm inner diameter coils. I use that for my own sanity in applying wick. If I had to thread a 1 mm diameter coil, well, not sure even Picasso could make any art out of the mess I would leave.
Here's a little chick-fu as my reply, I'm sure @AndriaD does not mind my quoting her for truth & @MannyScoot is just a delicious chick as well that knows wicks like ... well, we'll just let be for the time.
Also, most of the RDA I use are not really "frilly" or "fashion models". More than not the ones I use are tanks, as in Sherman tanks that run over happy little blue homosexual owned Prius. Please understand that's a bit of borrowed humor inspired by Jeff Dunham and not meant offensively but rather just simply good clean honest funing. In other words if you're so much a baby to cry over it, hush lest i give you something to genuinely cry over. It's just a mildly funny topical joke, get over yourself, i already did.
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<smartass reply ahead> It's the power of the Dark Side(tm). We bake our cookies but good over here, nearly as good as we bake the brownies. *chuckles* <smart ass reply over>
I think you're prolly unto something with the bit about airflow. i'm not gonna lose sleep over experimenting to figure out what "it" is, good enough to just know "it" is and move on living.
That's a lot of coil..Is that a modfather?!.But Idk if i can invest in all those coils anyway. The battery seems ready for anything though.I do 4mm all the time..... But I'm starting to do more 3.5mm ... Sometimes I have to trim some wick at 4.00mm.... it's all a matter of preference and on how fast or slow you wanna wick.... Clouds bigger or smaller.... It's all a science and a preference and taste........ It's like being a vape cook, your adjusting for taste and flavor.......
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That's the normal included Modfather deck here it is with a 5mm (9) wrap alien using the postless deck.
Now I see what u mean. Huge coils=huge clouds.. I think I'm glad I didn't get the TfV12 just yet.but whatever I do, I gotta get a bigger batteryThat's the normal included Modfather deck here it is with a 5mm (9) wrap alien using the postless deck.
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I'm an ex smoker. I am heavy on both cloud production and flavor.and now that I upped the wattage along with my coil size I'm pretty satisfied apart from my batterys power reducing somewhere after half charge. I don't really see where an rda would be any better for dual coil builds a least other than coil checking.but now that I think about it big tank vs squonk isn't any difference...Aside from coil checks
I was considering rayon then I looked at some of the reviews about tightness in chest and stuff and I stopped. Did hear praises about the taste but I think best I stick to natural ol cottonUhh.. what?
Andria
Truly, organic cotton provides an outstanding vape, once you have all the other factors in balance -- the power/wattage, the airflow coming into the atty, the viscosity of your ejuice, and the configuration of your coil(s). It's a delicate balancing act, so it does take a little time and experimentation to get it *just right*.. but once you do, then you have it, and you'll wonder what all the thrashing at the start was all about -- and then you can counsel other new vapers, be patient, try lots of things, don't give up, it's all completely worth all the hassle and effort.
Thick wick has really been doing the trick for my 12 wrap. I gotta change out my 11 wrap but that would be my fourth or fifth time tossing cotton this month, not to mention my recoiling syndrome...but i doubt I'll need to this timeRayon is weird stuff. When I first tried it, I liked it -- I think because I always seemed to use too much cotton for wicks, so I always ended up with dry hits. With rayon, you have to use more than you think you really need, because unlike cotton, rayon compresses when it's wet -- so it was a good way to learn wicking. But at one point, I got a dry hit from rayon, when trying out some new atty I had bought, and gawd DAMN that's the worst taste I think I've ever had in my mouth, burnt rayon -- it makes the taste of burnt cotton seem downright yummy! So I went immediately back to cotton -- and I had finally learned how to use it, using a bit less than what seemed right -- and have stuck with cotton ever since; my personal favorite, for several reasons, is Shiseido. I've attempted to use rayon a few times since then, but everytime, even when I don't get a dry hit, the taste of the rayon just brings it all back, that horrendous taste in my mouth and nose that I damn near couldn't get rid of... so I've left rayon completely alone since them.
I don't think there is any material that wouldn't be dangerous if you burnt it and inhaled the smoke; smoke is just bad for health, period, and the products of burning, the pyrolytic chemicals, are the worst part. So even burnt cotton would be a bad thing, probably releasing some of those chemicals the ANTZ are always yammering about -- but at least the taste of burnt cotton won't make you want to amputate your mouth!
Andria
That does look awesome..Is that braided cotton?lolHave you tried chimney coils? Way better than coil wrapped cotton.
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I do 4mm all the time..... But I'm starting to do more 3.5mm ... Sometimes I have to trim some wick at 4.00mm.... it's all a matter of preference and on how fast or slow you wanna wick.... Clouds bigger or smaller.... It's all a science and a preference and taste........ It's like being a vape cook, your adjusting for taste and flavor.......
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I will indeed await a time when I'm able to use dual batteries, or even quads in order to build such a quad Clapton & twisted staple(?) beastly set up.
That's the normal included Modfather deck here it is with a 5mm (9) wrap alien using the postless deck.
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Bet s/he kicks like a sumabitch/sisabitch and gets you going with the head rocks. "morning coffee vape?" "java java java .. erm, how java java can you java tell? java java ..." "your shaking like a flower, baby. relax, go wit it ... it's your birthday ..."
These are crazy Clouds man.... One big vape and your entire house is foggy..... In the car fuck one puff and everyone around you is like look in that car......Quite sweet.
Ha ha.... Ha ha .. . I buy these because the suck......I am now nearly convicted, "must ... have ... modfather". Hope it is not one of those expensive authentic "only" things, if so that kind of turns me off being convicted. Still nearly getting wood looking at this beast.
Truly, organic cotton provides an outstanding vape, once you have all the other factors in balance -- the power/wattage, the airflow coming into the atty, the viscosity of your ejuice, and the configuration of your coil(s). It's a delicate balancing act, so it does take a little time and experimentation to get it *just right*.. but once you do, then you have it, and you'll wonder what all the thrashing at the start was all about -- and then you can counsel other new vapers, be patient, try lots of things, don't give up, it's all completely worth all the hassle and effort.
It's a delicate balancing act, so it does take a little time and experimentation to get it *just right*.. but once you do, then you have it, and you'll wonder what all the thrashing at the start was all about -- and then you can counsel other new vapers, be patient, try lots of things, don't give up, it's all completely worth all the hassle and effort.
I am just having a nice affinity with rayon at the time. For me it works well, I can wick fair to good with it. That's merely me & my preference for the now, no one else needs to use rayon if they do not care doing so. 
neighbors decided to be a tight little "happy bunch of goody two shoe" community, ahem. Oh yeah. It's alright, I know Karma will bite them in the balls, maybe not today or tommorow, but she will.
Compelling reason she says, huh? That seems to make sense. I would not want to go wasting $5 - $50 for each RDA and get around ten or so for no valid reason. No need to throw money around aimlessly.
Could it be you enjoy a much better, for you, overall vaping experience using an RDA? If so could that be your compelling reason to use an RDA over a tank?
Yes, I might even try organic cotton, or bamboo, h--p as wick.
Got to fidgeting and stumbled over the LA Goon deck and LP cap fitting together. "Light bulb." Kind of surprised me as everyone was going on over the Lp giving more flavor. *nodding* Oh it does that, too. *chuckles* I'm also going setting on Misty Mountain Top. 
Ah, hm. These all seem great benefits and do give me pause to give consideration of organic cotton. I shall make it a bit of priority now to do so. Yes, I still enjoy the rayon. That does not mean I am oppose trying different ways. Who knows? I might like the cotton as well, or better.
I did use Redi-X for a spell. It is fairly nice but I seemed to feel the silt of the ceramic in the mouth, or so I thought. You know it is said "it's all in the head" and to a very high degree I'm learning that is so. Then too, I accept credence in the body knowing as well. A two hour nap this evening helped greatly. Out of twenty four hours those two lend a better outlook.
Over at Butthole Central in the Achilles thread, I've even heard someone complain that they couldn't use the Achilles, the flavor was so intense and saturated, they kept thinking that they had ejuice in their mouth. 
So I can't think of any reason to try anything else, given that huge pkg of Shiseido under the counter.