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https://www.fasttech.com/p/1395701
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You laughing too huh?..Ill show you all my undeniable modification skills and drill those air holes to 2.5mm then install a one of a kind custom home made 32g wrapped in 36g SS316 Clapton coil with some cotton bacon v2 cotton filling the entire available space around the coil..Clouds bro
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It's a lot like the RDA I started with... but I disliked the total lack of well. Not bad for tasting, though.
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Pics, or it didn't happen! BTW, I just thought my old Patriot was small.
I have bunches of pics to get ready for..Just haven't felt like spending $300 on a new phone..my Samsung galaxy 4 active took a dump on me.
I bought 2 so I can leave one stock and try to work with the other one..mainly for flavor testing with my diy mixes but I think I can make one more suited to a decent vape on a small single coil...Time will tell..lol
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The term is "tootle puffer". NOT "toddle".
That first RDA I actually liked was an Igo-S, the real tiny one. The tight airflow was good, but I dislike side airflow, there's just not much flavor that way. And the lack of well made it a real pain.
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So here it is..Just don't trip over each others computer trying to get them and remember you saw it here first..I ordered 2 of them!!!!!!!!!
https://www.fasttech.com/p/1395701
member: 41345"]Actually it's just Old School and there are a lot of MTL Vapers out there which this really would be a great option for them.[/QUOTE]
I have one that I used on my reo. its not that bad, if you can build a 2mm microcoil.
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I actually cracked up a little bit when I opened the OP's link, since I just received the two I added to my last FT order last week. The exact same RDAs! 
Haven't had a chance to get them incorporated yet, but they should be great for testing flavor mixes. Just might have to drill that teensy airhole out a bit. Y'all laugh, but RDAs like this are the best way to build recipes.
Haven't had a chance to get them incorporated yet, but they should be great for testing flavor mixes. Just might have to drill that teensy airhole out a bit. Y'all laugh, but RDAs like this are the best way to build recipes.
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That is exactly what I thought before reading through the rest of this thread
I guy at work bought a bunch of those and brought one to me and asked me to make it better..... he wanted more flavor/vapor. I drilled out a 2mm hole in the side and put a 30g/40g clapton in it that came out to just over 1.2 ohms. Not bad for what it is
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I actually cracked up a little bit when I opened the OP's link, since I just received the two I added to my last FT order last week. The exact same RDAs!
Haven't had a chance to get them incorporated yet, but they should be great for testing flavor mixes. Just might have to drill that teensy airhole out a bit. Y'all laugh, but RDAs like this are the best way to build recipes.
I agree with you. The only *serious* downside is the total lack of well, but for testing flavors, who cares? It's just my own personal preference about the side airflow; just never found it very flavorful. Airhole *under* the coil is always better. And if the airhole is small enough, you don't even have to worry about drips getting into it causing gurgling/leaking -- 'course, cloud chasers wouldn't know, they need airholes approximately the size of my fist.
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Ya, totally. I couldn't imagine using this to actually vape, but when you're flavor testing, you don't need no stinkin' juice well.
I guess I'm not as strongly skeptical of side airflow, since that's what the Boreas has, and it's my baby which I love with all my heart. I particularly was interested in the OP's find for flavor testing since this RDA has just the one airflow hole on one side, which is kind of hard to find in RDAs these days. That's why I love my Trident Tugboat RDA clone for flavor testing, since it has the option to just have an open airflow hole on one side. The one I have it set to, though, is about three times larger than the one on this RDA, so I'll have to see if it's enough. Maybe I'll drill a second small airflow hole a bit lower down, to get some bottom airflow going.
For anyone on the fence about picking up this RDA
giggle, they've fixed the issue with the loose o-rings that many users mentioned in the reviews on FT. Now it all fits together snug as you'd want. 
I know everyone is laughing...so I am likely to be laughed at (I can handle it)...but would this be good to put on my Pico to test new flavors? I don't have any experience w/ a RDA at all. This looks like you just add a new piece of cotton after a few puffs. ???
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Ya, totally. I couldn't imagine using this to actually vape, but when you're flavor testing, you don't need no stinkin' juice well.
I guess I'm not as strongly skeptical of side airflow, since that's what the Boreas has, and it's my baby which I love with all my heart. I particularly was interested in the OP's find for flavor testing since this RDA has just the one airflow hole on one side, which is kind of hard to find in RDAs these days. That's why I love my Trident Tugboat RDA clone for flavor testing, since it has the option to just have an open airflow hole on one side. The one I have it set to, though, is about three times larger than the one on this RDA, so I'll have to see if it's enough. Maybe I'll drill a second small airflow hole a bit lower down, to get some bottom airflow going.
For anyone on the fence about picking up this RDA
Ah, o-rings are another thing I can't abide. I'm packaging-deficient, you should see me trying to wrestle with something encased in plastic!
The one side airhole in the Magma is pretty good, for those of us who like a tight draw, and the Magma having its internal airhole under the coil makes it suitable for me... I just wish it didn't leak so much, or need to stay completely vertical.Andria
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You'd have to build the coil and mount it, but that's actually very easy; wicking is more challenging, till you learn just the *right* amount for a given inner-diameter of coil. But this would be an excellent first RDA, for learning the coil building and wicking stuff.
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Dammit! I paid a good $6.99 for that thing back in 2011!!! And it wasn't one of these cheesy clones either! It was a gen-yoo-wine Smoktech Squid! It's better.
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Nah. Andria would love a Phoenix - it had a screw on cap and a pin hole air draw.
Doubtful I'd love with it, with the side airflow, but it would be far more acceptable than most others.... It even appears to have a well.
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Specifically for testing flavors, I think I'd definitely recommend this. Haven't used it yet, but that's why I bought it. And I use a PICO for testing flavors as well, so you're on the right track.
Basically you'd just need to install a coil at first. I think 28 gauge kanthal is the thickest I'd use. I might end up using 30g when I sit down to get it set up. You should get many months of use out of that one coil. Between flavors you'll just remove and throw away the wick, rinse and dry the RDA, then put just the base back on your PICO and dry burn the coil. Then, it's ready to wick again. Super simple and efficient way to do it.
You won't need to use much cotton either, just enough for 4-5 vapes. Using an RDA like this is 100% the best way to create e-juice recipes, there's really no other way to do it.
But I'm looking up the Phoenix RDA, and most of the pics I'm seeing show those damned o-rings, not threads, and don't look a thing like the one you pictured above.
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There have been at least 5 phoenixesesss. You are looking for a V1 or maybe a V2 as well.
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I've learned via several different RDAs, if it's got o-rings instead of threads, I want no part of it. Those things play hell with my packaging dysfunction. Threads can sometimes be a pain, but if threads are tight, I can always use pliers to get it started; very much not the case with o-rings. But all my many requirements of an RDA is why I can't find ANYTHING that even comes close to the Achilles -- IMO, it's everything that an RDA should be. It STILL bugs the living hell out of me that they can't be bought anymore; with the HUGE selection available to cloud-chasers and middle-of-the-road'ers, you'd think there'd still be ONE good choice for RDA vapers who want a super-tight draw. I also have a Prometey, and it's also a very good vape for those who love tight draw, but the lack of well is a fairly serious drawback.
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Not true; I vary somewhere between 1.9-2.3 ohms, and it's a great vape anywhere in that range. for those who want a cooler vape and not a lot of vapor, it's really ideal. And it saves the hell out of battery life, too.
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Checked another photo. It has a well! It has a well!
Ah - that explains it. Obviously I wasn't paying attention after the V1.
@AndriaD what is your ideal build in the magma? im pretty sure i saw a clone in the discount bin at my local shop, and i have been looking for a mtl rda to check out. will probably go grab that today. i like a tight draw for mtl. i am learning how to get a good vape on the kf5, but i think thats about as loose as i can go for mtl.
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Checked another photo. It has a well! It has a well!
I am so gonna find one of these for you!
Still has the side airflow though, which seriously detracts from the flavor. Just can't get any, with side airflow.
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This thing is so frikkin' tiny! How much airflow control do you expect out of it? lol The coil is gonna be below, on top of, in the middle of air flow no matter how you place it.
Picky Picky Picky...
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I put pretty much the same build on everything -- 8 or 9 wraps of 29ga kanthal around 3/32; 8 wraps is a smidge under 2 ohms, 9 wraps usually comes in around 2.1 or 2.2 ohms.
For quite a while, I used 7 wraps, which was about 1.6-1.8 ohms. When I got my first iPV Mini, someone told me it wouldn't "buck" -- and in DC mode, it won't -- so I started building to a slightly higher resistance, 8 or 9 wraps, to get closer to my ideal wattage (9.5w-10w). Later I discovered that the iPV Mini does have a PWM mode, so if set to that, it bucks just fine... but I like the 8 or 9 wrap build, so I've stuck to it.
I always use a 3/32 drillbit, because that's the size that I know exactly how to wick. If I change the inner diameter, then I have to learn the "right amount" all over again, and that's just a pain in the ass. I always use 29ga kanthal because its resistance is basically perfect for my style of vaping, and it's just a smidge more sturdy than 30ga. And I dislike stainless; all I can taste when I use that is the cotton... ick. I know that nickel in costume jewelry turns my skin black, so I figure vaping with any form of nickel would be a bad idea.
Oh, and I never ever use dual coils, not even in the Magma which would support it; I just don't want that much heat.
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Because I just can't taste it, if the airflow isn't directly beneath the coil. The Igo-S was fine as far as the airflow, but it didn't give me enough flavor.
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ETA: Remember Boden, over at ECF? He's around here sometimes too, but I haven't seen him in a while. But he's a good one for "sciencey" stuff, and he once posted a diagram illustrating airflow from various types of airflow design; the airflow beneath the coil provides the most direct route of air directly over the coil to flow out to the mouth, hence provides the best flavor. I realize that's not an ideal arrangement for those who want grand-canyon size airflow, but for a tight draw, it's really by far the best.
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Thank you so much! I will see if I can find a YT vid to show me how to coil it.Specifically for testing flavors, I think I'd definitely recommend this. Haven't used it yet, but that's why I bought it. And I use a PICO for testing flavors as well, so you're on the right track.
Basically you'd just need to install a coil at first. I think 28 gauge kanthal is the thickest I'd use. I might end up using 30g when I sit down to get it set up. You should get many months of use out of that one coil. Between flavors you'll just remove and throw away the wick, rinse and dry the RDA, then put just the base back on your PICO and dry burn the coil. Then, it's ready to wick again. Super simple and efficient way to do it.
You won't need to use much cotton either, just enough for 4-5 vapes. Using an RDA like this is 100% the best way to create e-juice recipes, there's really no other way to do it.
Cool the silica wick in it will be worth more than the dripper! LOLSo here it is..Just don't trip over each others computer trying to get them and remember you saw it here first..I ordered 2 of them!!!!!!!!!
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@AndriaD well i went in to ask about the magma and the dude gave it to me for free(it was apparently in the discount bin for so long it was headed for the garbage bin). i only have even gauges of wire, would you use 28 or 30 as a substitute?
Personally, I'd use 30ga, but I prefer higher resistance than most. You might be very happy with 28ga, which would give you resistance just over 1 ohm, I think, with 7-9 wraps -- yeah, I just checked in Steam-engine, and using a 3/32 drillbit, 8 wraps would give you about 1.4 ohms, which would be a decent vape, for most folks. I just don't like that much heat. With 30ga, 8 wraps would be roughly the same resistance as 9 wraps of 29ga, 2.1 ohms. It's really a choice between resistance/heat and sturdiness -- 30ga is flimsy enough to deform just from pulling a soaked wick thru it; 28ga is sturdy, but won't give very high resistance. If you can stand the heat of 1.4Ω, you might like that better. Also, 8 wraps of 28ga will need at least 12w, I would think, to get a reasonably quick response -- since I prefer lower wattage, 9.5w-10w, is another reason I prefer thinner wire.
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