Vaping 3mg @ 70W during pregnancy

Chevelle · Feb 4, 2017

I unexpectedly found out this last week that I'm pregnant. I quit smoking through vaping a few months ago now and I have, over that time period, tapered from 24mg down to 3mg juice. I now only vape 3mg juice; never higher. I have the Sigelei Fuchai 213W but I only run it at 70W at the highest. In your opinion, experience, or to your understanding/knowledge, is this something I need to consider quitting all together in order to have a healthy pregnancy? Thank you.

MrScaryZ · Feb 4, 2017

Chevelle said:
I unexpectedly found out this last week that I'm pregnant. I quit smoking through vaping a few months ago now and I have, over that time period, tapered from 24mg down to 3mg juice. I now only vape 3mg juice; never higher. I have the Sigelei Fuchai 213W but I only run it at 70W at the highest. Is this something I need to consider quitting all together in order to have a healthy pregnancy? Thank you.

We are not Doctors and not qualified to answer this I would suggest contacting your Doctor or a qualified health care professional

Huckleberried · Feb 4, 2017

ditto

scalewiz · Feb 4, 2017

First, congratulations on quitting and the reduction in nicotine.

Next, ANYTHING you do to yourself while pregnant you are probably doing to your baby also. Including nicotine. That said, you definitely are on the right track for your baby by not smoking and getting infinitely more toxins in your body, and for your child. But you are still inhaling nicotine and a few substances. Is it good? No. But much better than the alternative. If you can stop altogether, that would be the very best thing.

I don't believe you will find anybody here who will say that vaping or smoking is a good thing while pregnant. At least I hope no one here is that selfish.

Chevelle · Feb 4, 2017

scalewiz said:
First, congratulations on quitting and the reduction in nicotine.

Next, ANYTHING you do to yourself while pregnant you are probably doing to your baby also. Including nicotine. That said, you definitely are on the right track for your baby by not smoking and getting infinitely more toxins in your body, and for your child. But you are still inhaling nicotine and a few substances. Is it good? No. But much better than the alternative. If you can stop altogether, that would be the very best thing.

I don't believe you will find anybody here who will say that vaping or smoking is a good thing while pregnant. At least I hope no one here is that selfish.

Ahhh, yes. That is a good point. Thank you very much.

pagandevil · Feb 4, 2017

My wife is a special care nursery nurse. She says that the babies of smokers go through the same withdrawal as those of drug users.

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Chevelle · Feb 4, 2017

pagandevil said:
My wife is a special care nursery nurse. She says that the babies of smokers go through the same withdrawal as those of drug users.

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WHAT?! Holy moly, that seems unreal to me; someone in my distant family carried her full pregnancy as a ****** addict and the poor baby's withdrawals were horrific.

MrScaryZ · Feb 4, 2017

pagandevil said:
My wife is a special care nursery nurse. She says that the babies of smokers go through the same withdrawal as those of drug users.

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She is not smoking she is vaping!

dcarpentier · Feb 4, 2017

Odd.
Our very experienced midwife for our first boy mentioned that a large study in europe (sweden ?) suggested that sudden changes (like quitting smoking cold turkey during preg) may do more harm than reduction. Our bodies react and attempt to rebalance things we put into them.
I would think it obvious that it would have been nice if you hadnt have been a smoker (or vaper) during the first part of preg.
Speak to a professional (or more than one) about your next steps.

pagandevil · Feb 4, 2017

MrScaryZ said:
She is not smoking she is vaping!

While I realize this, she is still putting nicotine into her body, so this still applies. Nicotine is, after all, a addictive drug. I don't say vaping is as dangerous to us as smoking is, I was commenting about the effects of nicotine on a newborn. A newborn goes through withdrawal symptoms from any drug the mother uses. Should she quit? That's up to her doctor. Many drugs they actually want you to increase your usage until after birth. She should talk to her doctor and get his/her medical opinion.

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Citizen · Feb 4, 2017

As others have said, I would talk to a health care professional. I'm guessing they're going to tell you not to vape. I would also do some reading on the studies they have done regarding nicotine and brain development. I haven't read any pertaining to fetal brain development but I am familiar with a couple they have done regarding the effects of nicotine on the developing adolescent brain. Specifically the pre-frontal cortex and the potential effects it may have on cognition later in adulthood. Like I said I'm not a doctor, I was just looking for answers for myself. It does go without saying though, congratulations on quitting smoking cigarettes! Isn't it such a great feeling?

HondaDavidson · Feb 5, 2017

Ask your doctor... imo Zero nic should be ok. Nicotine has been shown to be affect brain or mental developement...... it has also been shown to aide in learning........... thus is life.

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Canadian Vaper · Feb 5, 2017

First of all!! Ask your doctor...

Nicotine is a stimulant very much like caffeine, I know it's not recommended to drink too much caffeine while pregnant basically 1 cup a day.. Having Caffeine and Nicotine may compound the effect since they are so similar...

If you are going to vape, I'd go down to 1.5mg and give up coffee... AGAIN I AM NOT A DOCTOR!!! but either way the doctor probably will just tell you to stop because there isn't enough info on it...

There's a nurse in a vaping advocacy group I'm in on facebook VAEP "vaping advocacy & education project inc" She'll probably have better answers than anyone here...

If you want her name Send me a PM and I'll tell you

Diescum88 · Feb 5, 2017

dcarpentier said:
Odd.
Our very experienced midwife for our first boy mentioned that a large study in europe (sweden ?) suggested that sudden changes (like quitting smoking cold turkey during preg) may do more harm than reduction. Our bodies react and attempt to rebalance things we put into them.
I would think it obvious that it would have been nice if you hadnt have been a smoker (or vaper) during the first part of preg.
Speak to a professional (or more than one) about your next steps.

Yep, the gf and I actually had a miscarriage a few years back that they said could have been caused by her suddenly stopping smoking and large amounts of caffeine

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UncleRJ · Feb 5, 2017

Ask your Doctor

Chevelle · Feb 5, 2017

Thank you all so very much I sincerely appreciate your responses

raymo2u · Feb 5, 2017

pagandevil said:
My wife is a special care nursery nurse. She says that the babies of smokers go through the same withdrawal as those of drug users.

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Ive had 3 kids of my own and have watched 3 other kids come into this world....I was...along with the women a hard core user and each kid was a different story and a different set of circumstances, the 4th-5th were only exposed to smoking, and the last was a vaping baby....I was careless and I regret it every day but I would let you know that isnt what I experienced. They all have had some type of troubles, but those that are in withdrawal from """"""" showed major symptoms....as ashamed as I am....I will still admit what Ive done to these children. But without it and other experiences I think Id still be following that same path.

The smoking and vaping babies were much easier...not as inconsolable and seemed to have a better life the first few weeks then those previous. Plus Ive never seen a baby needing small doses of nicotine to ease the symptoms of withdrawal.

They grow up to be seemingly normal still...

I have made monstrous decisions....I know..

Chevelle · Feb 5, 2017

raymo2u said:
Ive had 3 kids of my own and have watched 3 other kids come into this world....I was...along with the women a hard core drug user and each kid was a different story and a different set of circumstances the 4th-5th were only exposed to smoking and the last was a vaping baby....I was careless and regret it but I would let you know that isnt what I experienced. They all have had some type of trouble but those that are in withdrawal from drugs showed major symptoms....as ashamed as I am....I will still admit what Ive done to these children. But without it and other experiences I think Id still be following that same path.

The smoking and vaping babies were much easier...not as inconsolable and seemed to have a better life the first few weeks then those previous. Plus Ive never seen a baby needing small doses of nicotine to ease the symptoms of withdrawal.

They grow up to be seemingly normal still...

I have made monstrous decisions....I know..

Oh no, no no. Don't you dare. Addiction causes us to do horrific things - things we could never even fathom doing as the true person whom we are when we are clean. Do not beat yourself up for the monstrous decisions YOUR ADDICTION made FOR YOU. Those decisions are NOT, by any means, what makes you who YOU, truly, are. Thank you for sharing.

savagebee · Feb 6, 2017

pagandevil said:
My wife is a special care nursery nurse. She says that the babies of smokers go through the same withdrawal as those of drug users.

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While this may be true on Finnegan scaling the long term effects are incredibly reduced. While smoking during pregnancy is always a bad idea for the baby it is NOT on the same level of alcohol. But the withdrawal symptoms are very reduced.

Just realized the wording I used will probably be removed...
Tried to reword it

savagebee · Feb 6, 2017

raymo2u said:
Ive had 3 kids of my own and have watched 3 other kids come into this world....I was...along with the women a hard core drug user and each kid was a different story and a different set of circumstances, the 4th-5th were only exposed to smoking, and the last was a vaping baby....I was careless and I regret it every day but I would let you know that isnt what I experienced. They all have had some type of troubles, but those that are in withdrawal from drugs showed major symptoms....as ashamed as I am....I will still admit what Ive done to these children. But without it and other experiences I think Id still be following that same path.

The smoking and vaping babies were much easier...not as inconsolable and seemed to have a better life the first few weeks then those previous. Plus Ive never seen a baby needing small doses of nicotine to ease the symptoms of withdrawal...but I have seen mild sedatives and pain killers to sooth ******/suboxone withdrawals in babies for the first few weeks.

They grow up to be seemingly normal still...

I have made monstrous decisions....I know..

Thank you for your honesty in this regard. I deal with drug exposed newborns and their family's on an unfortunately regular basis. Most people are never able to change that mindset or gain any insight into their problems. I'm sorry your children went through that but I am glad you have made such incredibly hard and healthy decisions as well as the willpower to keep it going. But as mentioned, keep moving on and keep vaping bro!

USMCotaku · Feb 6, 2017

Asylumsix said:
First of all!! Ask your doctor...

Nicotine is a stimulant very much like caffeine, I know it's not recommended to drink too much caffeine while pregnant basically 1 cup a day.. Having Caffeine and Nicotine may compound the effect since they are so similar...

If you are going to vape, I'd go down to 1.5mg and give up coffee... AGAIN I AM NOT A DOCTOR!!! but either way the doctor probably will just tell you to stop because there isn't enough info on it...

There's a nurse in a vaping advocacy group I'm in on facebook VAEP "vaping advocacy & education project inc" She'll probably have better answers than anyone here...

If you want her name Send me a PM and I'll tell you

while I agree with consulting a professional regarding nicotine use.....they have recently changed the restriction on caffeine, studies have found no link to caffeine consumption and the previously thought effects it would have on the child.

Whiskey · Feb 6, 2017

UncleRJ said:
Ask your Doctor

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Synphul · Feb 6, 2017

I'd agree to ask a doctor same as any health concern.

That aside, one week it's 'this is good for you' the next week that same thing is 'bad for you'. Flavor of the month depending on who you ask and when. I'm not advocating smoking or anything else while pregnant but to say that babies of smokers are suffering drug abuse withdrawals may be stretching it a bit. If everyone were the same and if doctors truly knew everything they were doing there wouldn't be a laundry list of 'potential side effects' attached to nearly every pharma drug out there.

Anyone is susceptible to anything, for some kids in rare cases sunlight is dangerous to them. I grew up in an era of smoking parents and babies weren't writhing with withdrawals in epidemic fashion. My ex gf smoked through her pregnancy, her baby didn't have withdrawals, definitely nothing like a ****** baby or anything. Not saying it's healthy, a good choice or 'safe' other than real world experience tends to contradict over zealous conclusions in some cases.

USMCotaku · Feb 6, 2017

like most things in life, moderation does play a role......we all know nicotine can be found in tomatoes, and not one of us has heard "don't eat tomatoes while pregnant"...so it probably comes down to dosage....how much nicotine is going to make it through your blood stream to the fetus. Like with caffeine...they are now saying you can consume normal amounts with out risk to your baby...but I am sure 20 red bulls a day would be bad.

bondo · Feb 6, 2017

I can't/won't say either way but keep in mind that your actions today will affect not only yours but someone else's life tomorrow.

AndriaD · Feb 6, 2017

I smoked while pregnant, though I was able to cut it down to 3-4 cigs a day. My baby was full-term and perfectly healthy, scoring 8 and 9 on the APGAR.

At 3mg, you're very low on nic use, so it would probably be fairly easy for you to lower a bit more, perhaps to 1mg, perhaps even skip the the nicotine altogether.

At that low a usage, it's really not "addictive," either for you or your baby; it's *mildly* dependence-producing; however, it's a vasoconstrictor, just like caffeine, and for the same reason, not a great idea during pregnancy -- you're growing a whole new blood system to supply another person's whole new blood system, so vasoconstriction is a bad idea -- it might also contribute to high blood pressure, which is very bad in pregnancy.

Andria

ETA: I would add, stress is also a very bad thing during pregnancy; when I was unable to quit fully, my obstetrician said not to worry or stress over that, as the stress would be worse for my baby than the 3-4 cigs I smoked each day.

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