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a little background on my self to start :) hi im "thewife" i started vaping in an effort to quit smoking it made me actually crave cigarettes more! i enjoyed the satisfying burnt paper and ashing my cigarette and that quick buzz the occasional menthol gave me. (is that common?) well i eventually kicked it completely and only used my vape then i found out i was pregnant and although as far as i knew it wasnt HARMFUL i didnt figure it was any good so i quit that too.. im now smoke and vape free.. HOWEVER my husband who has never smoked a cigarette in his life picked up vaping.. first he would snatch mine out of my hand sometimes claiming he just wanted to taste it.. then he bought his own... i never bought any liquid over 12mg nicotine he started off at 24mg.. and he WONT cut back despite my numerous requests because he wasnt addicted.. its like he just woke up one morning and said "im going to force my self into an unnecessary addiction" if he started off low or just vaping with no nicotine i would totally understand.. but straight from nothing to 24mg... and he goes through two sometimes two and a half tanksa day.. so at 24mg/ml thats a lot of nicotine.. thats like 4 packs a day (right?)

ok to my main question... i refuse to kiss my husband anymore... his breath is NOT pleasant... and vaping shouldnt give you bad breath.. and he brushes his teeth i mean i brush my teeth right next to the man.. i would know.. can it still effect your teeth?? ive noticed a sticky yellow looking substance building up primarily in between his bottom front teeth... hes not smoking cigarettes i know for a fact. so wheres this coming from???

this is a photo i found on google its not his teeth and this is the mouth of a CIGARETTE smoker but the gunk in the bottom teeth.. thats what it looks like
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sticky yellow stuff is not from vaping, come on now really !! if it was you would have noticed your teeth turning yellow first !!!

that is from coffee ,which stains teeth really bad ,even fake teeth
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not intending to insult vaping at all i enjoyed it very much and have no desire to put down something i brought into the house in the first place i only vaped for about a year and smoked for about 4 and my teeth are stained but VERY LITTLE at all.. once i pop this child out i inted to go back to vaping as i enjoy it.. im simply asking because i dont feel like i did it long enough to actually know
 
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My dentist was THRILLED when I gave up smoking for vaping.

And has made several comments about my teeth and gums being in better shape since I have started.

And no yellow slime reported.
 
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So is the question why his teeth look like that? He simply needs to attend to his oral hygiene better and get his teeth cleaned. It's not from vaping, it's from crappy oral hygiene. As to his vaping habits, NO, 1.5 tanks a day is not equal to 4 packs of cigarettes.

What is your real motive in posting this here? I'm smelling a plant for the anti-vaper's to mine and reference.
 
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First:
It doesn't matter how much eliquid a person vapes, it equals '0' packs a day.
Smokers get stained teeth from tar not from nicotine.

Second:
Some people are born with soft teeth.
That is why you will see a bum outside a liquor store begging for change with perfect teeth.
Then you see an upper middle class guy in his late 20's early 30's with teeth that look like that picture.
I think it is called genetics?

Third:
That yellow gunk is probably plaque maybe he should see a DENTIST?

Forth:
I would kiss my girlfriend after she drank too much and threw up.
Not because puke tastes good but because I love her.
You may not be in love with a man anymore if you refuse to kiss him.

Either kick out the $60,000 for implants, or the $6,000 for dentures.

Vaping DOES NOT DO THIS.
A persons genetic makeup (DNA) along with bad oral hygiene causes this.

Why would you come here and ask this as your first post and not see a dentist instead?

I would really appreciate an answer on that final question. Thank you
 
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http://www.identalhub.com/article_stained-and-discoloured-teeth-4.aspx

Extrinsic Staining
This types of staining or discoloration of teeth is present only on the outer surface of the tooth. These types of stained teeth are because of consumption of coffee, tea, cold drinks, red wine and other types of food and drinks and smoking. These stained teeth can be because of deposition of plaque also. Treatment of this type of stained teeth is the use of proper brushing and cleaning from dentist. However some extrinsic stains get embedded into the tooth due to prolonged use of tobacco products & smoking. These teeth needs tooth whitening /bleaching from the dentist.

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The various CAUSES of extrinsic staining are further divided into these subtypes:-

1. Direct staining
2. Indirect staining

I do not see vaping on the list. Do you?
 
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5150sick said:
First:
It doesn't matter how much eliquid a person vapes, it equals '0' packs a day.
Smokers get stained teeth from tar not from nicotine.

Second:
Some people are born with soft teeth.
That is why you will see a bum outside a liquor store begging for change with perfect teeth.
Then you see an upper middle class guy in his late 20's early 30's with teeth that look like that picture.
I think it is called genetics?

Third:
That yellow gunk is probably plaque maybe he should see a DENTIST?

Forth:
I would kiss my girlfriend after she drank too much and threw up.
Not because puke tastes good but because I love her.
You may not be in love with a man anymore if you refuse to kiss him.

Either kick out the $60,000 for implants, or the $6,000 for dentures.

Vaping DOES NOT DO THIS.
A persons genetic makeup (DNA) along with bad oral hygiene causes this.

Why would you come here and ask this as your first post and not see a dentist instead?

I would really appreciate an answer on that final question. Thank you
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Spot on. Idc about why this person came here and posted this. If they were a vaper for a year they'd know whatever the issue, it's not caused by vaping.

I will add one more thing though. My wife is cooking her third baby, in non baby cooking mode she finds the smell either tolerable or pleasant. Even though she's a non vaper/smoker. With the first two she found the smell sickening. Nothing yet with this one but being pregnant changes your senses and cravings.
Also the not kissing bit. I have held my wife's hair after drinking too much while she puked, put her to bed and kissed her goodnight. I find puke to be completely stomach turning and often vomit when I see someone else doing so, but I love my wife and had no issues with that. Marriage counseling might be good as well...
 
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5150sick said:
First:
It doesn't matter how much eliquid a person vapes, it equals '0' packs a day.
Smokers get stained teeth from tar not from nicotine.
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Spot on. Idc about why this person came here and posted this. If they were a vaper for a year they'd know whatever the issue, it's not caused by vaping.
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^^^ THIS!!! I wish I could put flashing yellow arrows all around it pointing to it.

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I will add one more thing though. My wife is cooking her third baby, in non baby cooking mode she finds the smell either tolerable or pleasant. Even though she's a non vaper/smoker. With the first two she found the smell sickening. Nothing yet with this one but being pregnant changes your senses and cravings.
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That's an excellent and valid point also..... while never a fan of the smell of eggs cooking (especially frying), while pregnant that dislike turned 100% stomach-flipping and instant nausea-inducing! I literally had to leave the house for a while if someone else wanted to cook eggs, and pray the smell dissipated before I dared step back inside.

Having said all that, however, the only thing I can really imagine being able to prompt that kind of reaction to a vaper would be their choice of flavoring. I have to wonder if the solution is as simple as finding an ejuice flavor that's less offensive to our OP's altered olfactory senses.... perhaps instead of holding out, she might offer him a shot of mouthwash, and take him shopping for a flavor that they can both appreciate...... although.......

As for the dental staining/build-up, I'd place more stock in THAT being the source of her distaste, and consider an appointment with a dental hygienist. If vaping is being blamed for that, it's the first, only, and most highly dubious report I've ever heard from ANYONE, ANYWHERE regarding the subject. My personal experience and the collective experience of others has unilaterally yielded opposite and very favorable reports, dentally speaking. I'll hazard a guess that the OP is connecting two dots that have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
 
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A lot of acid from soda or juices can really wreck the enamel. With that gone they are porous as fuck, and leech in dyes easily. Also as mentioned, genetics plays a huge role in how much enamel you have to begin with.

Also, for bad breath... it's almost 100% bacteria related. It's the 'off gasses' from them living. Brushing won't necessarily remove that, and the location can be many places. Wouldn't recommend antibiotics, but something local to test like peroxide or some diluted essential oils that kill microbes (rinse, gargle, spit lol)

Maybe check out the coconut oil threads around here, which people swear by for oral health
 
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5150sick said:
First:
It doesn't matter how much eliquid a person vapes, it equals '0' packs a day.
Smokers get stained teeth from tar not from nicotine.

Second:
Some people are born with soft teeth.
That is why you will see a bum outside a liquor store begging for change with perfect teeth.
Then you see an upper middle class guy in his late 20's early 30's with teeth that look like that picture.
I think it is called genetics?

Third:
That yellow gunk is probably plaque maybe he should see a DENTIST?

Forth:
I would kiss my girlfriend after she drank too much and threw up.
Not because puke tastes good but because I love her.
You may not be in love with a man anymore if you refuse to kiss him.

Either kick out the $60,000 for implants, or the $6,000 for dentures.

Vaping DOES NOT DO THIS.
A persons genetic makeup (DNA) along with bad oral hygiene causes this.

Why would you come here and ask this as your first post and not see a dentist instead?

I would really appreciate an answer on that final question. Thank you
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i think you put your mouth piece in the wrong hole... blowin a lotta smoke out of your ass there for such a simple question. :) and the "packs a day" is in relation to how much nicotine is in a cigarette/pack of cigarettes vs a ml of vape fluid
 
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thewife said:
i think you put your mouth piece in the wrong hole... blowin a lotta smoke out of your ass there for such a simple question. :) and the "packs a day" is in relation to how much nicotine is in a cigarette/pack of cigarettes vs a ml of vape fluid
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Your question was about stained teeth. You didn't seem to be disgusted by his nicotine intake.
And a "tank or two" of 24 mg still doesn't equal a pack of. First, tank sizes and vapor production differ a lot! I remember when a 30ml bottle was equivalent to a carton of smokes, regarding nicotine. Bullshit.
 
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How about this.............

Vaping gives you "Billy Bob" Teeth!

Nah, didn't sound right to me either.
 
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thewife said:
i think you put your mouth piece in the wrong hole... blowin a lotta smoke out of your ass there for such a simple question. :) and the "packs a day" is in relation to how much nicotine is in a cigarette/pack of cigarettes vs a ml of vape fluid
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You said:

"if he started off low or just vaping with no nicotine i would totally understand.. but straight from nothing to 24mg... and he goes through two sometimes two and a half tanks a day.. so at 24mg/ml thats a lot of nicotine.. thats like 4 packs a day (right?) "

And I said NO!
That is "0" packs a day.
One has nothing at all to do with the other.

Nicotine is absorbed differently between vaping and smoking.
Just like nicotine is absorbed differently between the patch and smoking.

It's like the difference in caffeine intake between drinking a coke and downing three 5 hour energy drinks at once.

If he was on the nicotine patch would it even be a problem?

I answered your question - NO!, THERE IS NO WAY POSSIBLE VAPING DID THAT TO HIS TEETH

Any other questions?
 
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My enamel is crap because of too many years of too much soda pop. Because of that, when I heavily vape sweet liquids that are high in nic, I have occassionally had sensitive spots on teeth show up. When I change from extra sweet and high nic, and how I inhale, it goes away. I have also had a couple of small cavities show up that I feel were exacerbated by the sweet vapes (especially since they were right in the same area that the vape hits). My gums are still far healthier than they were when I was smoking, though.
 
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thewife said:
i think you put your mouth piece in the wrong hole... blowin a lotta smoke out of your ass there for such a simple question. :) and the "packs a day" is in relation to how much nicotine is in a cigarette/pack of cigarettes vs a ml of vape fluid
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Why would you come here and ask this as your first post and not see a dentist instead?

I would really appreciate an answer on that final question. Thank you
 
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thewife said:
a little background on my self to start :) hi im "thewife" i started vaping in an effort to quit smoking it made me actually crave cigarettes more! i enjoyed the satisfying burnt paper and ashing my cigarette and that quick buzz the occasional menthol gave me. (is that common?) well i eventually kicked it completely and only used my vape then i found out i was pregnant and although as far as i knew it wasnt HARMFUL i didnt figure it was any good so i quit that too.. im now smoke and vape free.. HOWEVER my husband who has never smoked a cigarette in his life picked up vaping.. first he would snatch mine out of my hand sometimes claiming he just wanted to taste it.. then he bought his own... i never bought any liquid over 12mg nicotine he started off at 24mg.. and he WONT cut back despite my numerous requests because he wasnt addicted.. its like he just woke up one morning and said "im going to force my self into an unnecessary addiction" if he started off low or just vaping with no nicotine i would totally understand.. but straight from nothing to 24mg... and he goes through two sometimes two and a half tanksa day.. so at 24mg/ml thats a lot of nicotine.. thats like 4 packs a day (right?)

ok to my main question... i refuse to kiss my husband anymore... his breath is NOT pleasant... and vaping shouldnt give you bad breath.. and he brushes his teeth i mean i brush my teeth right next to the man.. i would know.. can it still effect your teeth?? ive noticed a sticky yellow looking substance building up primarily in between his bottom front teeth... hes not smoking cigarettes i know for a fact. so wheres this coming from???

this is a photo i found on google its not his teeth and this is the mouth of a CIGARETTE smoker but the gunk in the bottom teeth.. thats what it looks like
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I do not know ya'lls age, but gum disease is very prevalent in anyone over 40, regular cleanings need to start being 2x a year for some who are prone to it.

If there is plaque build-up, more stuff will start "sticking" to it. That is the cause for much discoloration.

As more stuff sticks to it, it pushes the gums back (that is where the expression "long in the tooth" comes from when desccribing older people....it's actaully receeding gums.)

Sometimes a deep scaling is required (not painful, they squirt topical anesthesia onto your gums before they do it, and work in quadrants (4 visits) where they are able to clean "below the gumline).

Also could be a combination of that and yeast / candida, but probably not.

the gum disease would give bad breath for sure....that is first sign as a matter of fact!!! Brushing teeth will not help, as there is bacteria problem at gumline and UNDER the gumline, because pockets have formed there and hold onto food, etc.

Get him to dentist. Gum disease will eventually go to the bones, then your teeth start getting loose.

I hope you are not a plant, and that I have helped you.......at least I gave a short course on "gum disease" for anyone interested.

I had it not due to poor oral hygiene but due to have Sjogren's syndrome ---lack of saliva
 
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A person’s smile is probably one of the first things you notice when you look at someone. E cig are not affecting our teeth according to conventional cigarette it doesn't smells.
 
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Gunk on the bottom of those teeth looks like plaque build up.
Are you and your husband using mouthwash? Are the toothbrushes in good condition?
Brushing cleans dirt, but mouthwash kills plaque causing bacteria.


Also, just because it started showing itself now, after he started vaping, does not mean it has anything to do with vaping.

When I was younger, I was 'addicted' to soda, I drank more then a case a day. Then I stopped drinking it 7 years ago. 2 years ago, 3 different teeth broke/chipped. I went to the dentist (first time in over 15 years). All that soda I drank softened my teeth, cavities formed further weakening the teeth. Not big cavities, tiny, almost unnoticeable cavities in the now soft teeth. Then when they got too weak a piece broke off. Had 3 teeth that were really bad and almost had to be drilled almost down to the pulp to get all the soft stuff out and 2 others that were also pretty soft. Also had one that needed a root canal. Last year, one of the bad 3 'died' and needed a root canal. A few days ago, another one of those 3 had a large piece break off and a smaller piece last night.

Teeth can take *years* to show problems if you don't have regular dentist visits.
It's possible any issues his teeth are now showing are a result of stuff done earlier in life.


(oh, btw, as proof all that the above experience wasn't vaping related, I have only been vaping for 10 months so far)
 
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Almost always I will read stuff like this and a instant denial from vapors arises. Nicotine is not good for gums or teeth. Yes it can cause many problems. I have personally dealt with its effects. Nicotine messes up blood flow and oxygen flow via hemoglobin. My story is long and I don't feel a need to write it all because the truth does nothing if a person is in denial. In my experience I without a doubt experienced the bad sides of vaping. Yes I still vape. It's this or cigs and I still feel this is a safer alternative. I hate that people try to protect vaping nicotine without the facts. Nicotine is not safe, it is not good for you. With that said we have no idea the effects of whatever other chemicals are in our juices. Understand you are not only vaping the ingredients on that bottle. Many of our juices are made in some garage by Joe smoe. Non tested for purity, or contamination. In a few hours I will be going for a root canal. I don't blame it on vaping but I know when I do vape it makes it hurt and swell a lot more. I was shot a few month ago and been anemic since. Raising my cbc has not been easy and a cbc is done often on me. Weeks I stay nicotine free my levels increase more. It is also a fact that nicotine slows bone growth. The bullet went through one of my bones that in 5 months has had very little regrowth due to several factors but I can guarantee one is because of my nicotine intake. There are some bone surgeries that doctors will not even perform if the person plans to continue taking in nicotine because it is a fact that it decreases their chances of the procedure taking by a very high percentage and that not in therory, that from real life experience that doctors have dealt with. It is not uncommon for a nicotine user to see a 50% slower healing when deal with broken bones. I can go on forever about the bad sides of nicotine. Truth is, most users do very little research or very bad research and to be polite, makes them sound ignorant when they open their mouth. Nicotine is a drug, and as far as I know; a drug that has 0 good health benefits.
 
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I have the EXACT same problem and I've been dealing with it for a while now. It seems to happen when I drink wine. What seems to be happening is that somehow vaping makes these dark stains "stick" to the teeth. Brushing doesn't take care of it and it is impossible to remove. I'm fairly certain there's a correlation between the stains, wine, and vaping through deduction. I don't know how to get rid of these stains aside from quiting vaping or wine. Does anyone know of any solutions???
 
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5150sick said:
First:
It doesn't matter how much eliquid a person vapes, it equals '0' packs a day.
Smokers get stained teeth from tar not from nicotine.

Second:
Some people are born with soft teeth.
That is why you will see a bum outside a liquor store begging for change with perfect teeth.
Then you see an upper middle class guy in his late 20's early 30's with teeth that look like that picture.
I think it is called genetics?

Third:
That yellow gunk is probably plaque maybe he should see a DENTIST?

Forth:
I would kiss my girlfriend after she drank too much and threw up.
Not because puke tastes good but because I love her.
You may not be in love with a man anymore if you refuse to kiss him.

Either kick out the $60,000 for implants, or the $6,000 for dentures.

Vaping DOES NOT DO THIS.
A persons genetic makeup (DNA) along with bad oral hygiene causes this.

Why would you come here and ask this as your first post and not see a dentist instead?

I would really appreciate an answer on that final question. Thank you
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ditto! & WELL SAID
 
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HubbaRock said:
I have the EXACT same problem and I've been dealing with it for a while now. It seems to happen when I drink wine. What seems to be happening is that somehow vaping makes these dark stains "stick" to the teeth. Brushing doesn't take care of it and it is impossible to remove. I'm fairly certain there's a correlation between the stains, wine, and vaping through deduction. I don't know how to get rid of these stains aside from quiting vaping or wine. Does anyone know of any solutions???
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What has your dentist told you? Have you asked him or her?
Oh...and Welcome to VU
 
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Zamazam said:
So is the question why his teeth look like that? He simply needs to attend to his oral hygiene better and get his teeth cleaned. It's not from vaping, it's from crappy oral hygiene. As to his vaping habits, NO, 1.5 tanks a day is not equal to 4 packs of cigarettes.

What is your real motive in posting this here? I'm smelling a plant for the anti-vaper's to mine and reference.
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You're wrong, this is very real and caused from vaping. These stains are dark and do not fade away from brushing. However, if I stop vaping or stop drinking wine the stains will go away. This is a very real problem. I have fairly good oral hygiene and these stains are not caused from lack of brushing. Here is a pic of my stains
 

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HubbaRock said:
It seems to happen when I drink wine. Does anyone know of any solutions???
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Switch from wine to beer or wine coolers for a month, keep vaping and find out the easy way?
 
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death2fake said:
Almost always I will read stuff like this and a instant denial from vapors arises. Nicotine is not good for gums or teeth. Yes it can cause many problems. I have personally dealt with its effects. Nicotine messes up blood flow and oxygen flow via hemoglobin. My story is long and I don't feel a need to write it all because the truth does nothing if a person is in denial. In my experience I without a doubt experienced the bad sides of vaping. Yes I still vape. It's this or cigs and I still feel this is a safer alternative. I hate that people try to protect vaping nicotine without the facts. Nicotine is not safe, it is not good for you. With that said we have no idea the effects of whatever other chemicals are in our juices. Understand you are not only vaping the ingredients on that bottle. Many of our juices are made in some garage by Joe smoe. Non tested for purity, or contamination. In a few hours I will be going for a root canal. I don't blame it on vaping but I know when I do vape it makes it hurt and swell a lot more. I was shot a few month ago and been anemic since. Raising my cbc has not been easy and a cbc is done often on me. Weeks I stay nicotine free my levels increase more. It is also a fact that nicotine slows bone growth. The bullet went through one of my bones that in 5 months has had very little regrowth due to several factors but I can guarantee one is because of my nicotine intake. There are some bone surgeries that doctors will not even perform if the person plans to continue taking in nicotine because it is a fact that it decreases their chances of the procedure taking by a very high percentage and that not in therory, that from real life experience that doctors have dealt with. It is not uncommon for a nicotine user to see a 50% slower healing when deal with broken bones. I can go on forever about the bad sides of nicotine. Truth is, most users do very little research or very bad research and to be polite, makes them sound ignorant when they open their mouth. Nicotine is a drug, and as far as I know; a drug that has 0 good health benefits.
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Dumbest, run on bullshit ever posted on this or any forum.
 
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death2fake said:
There are some bone surgeries that doctors will not even perform if the person plans to continue taking in nicotine because it is a fact that it decreases their chances of the procedure taking by a very high preventable
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This part especially is 100% bullshit.
I've had dozens of surgeries (read my bio sometime) in Maryland and Florida.
Each one pertaining to joint replacement, back surgery, or trying to fix an infected joint replacement and every time i would say "i smoke" the many doctors i have dealt with have PRESCRIBED the nicotine patch for my entire hospital stay.
If nicotine was the evil monster you make it out to be then why are they giving it to me just like a nutritional supplement?

If you were to take out the word nicotine and change it to smoke or smoking then your bullshit would be much more believable.
 
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HubbaRock said:
You're wrong, this is very real and caused from vaping. These stains are dark and do not fade away from brushing. However, if I stop vaping or stop drinking wine the stains will go away. This is a very real problem. I have fairly good oral hygiene and these stains are not caused from lack of brushing. Here is a pic of my stains
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so the reason you signed up and made an account was to tell the world that vaping or excessive wine drinking fucks up teeth?

welcome to VU :facepalm:
 
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Depending on how dark the liquid is and how much you vape, they can damage your teeth the whole life. I had a terrible time with my vaping. Despite frequent rinsing and normal brushing, my tongue had become brown and my teeth looked worse than when I smoked. I didn't know what to do. With one of my friends suggestion, I took the tooth whitening treatment from online. My teeth looks much whiter since I stopped vaping and took the treatment. I was not looking for a perfect white teeth. But I had a big problem for a while! I hope this helps some.

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Yolonda369 said:
Depending on how dark the liquid is and how much you vape, they can damage your teeth the whole life. I had a terrible time with my vaping. Despite frequent rinsing and normal brushing, my tongue had become brown and my teeth looked worse than when I smoked. I didn't know what to do. With one of my friends suggestion, LINK REMOVED My teeth looks much whiter since I stopped vaping and took the treatment. I was not looking for a perfect white teeth. But I had a big problem for a while! I hope this helps some.
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Bullshit.
 
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