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Hey guys I'd like your feedback and opinions on claims that my mom has been making for awhile. In order to understand I'll give you a little info on my situation.

I've been vaping for 3 years around all sorts of people and the only complaint is the big cloud of smoke that the wind sometimes carries in the wrong direction. However, my mom is full of complaints about my vaping. I live with my parents and I only vape in my room with my fan on high.

Now for my mom's complaints. She says the smell is sickenly sweet, it makes her asthma worse and she has to use her inhaler, it makes her lungs tighten up, and the best one, it makes the house cloudy. 100% of the people I've talked to say they like the smell besides my mom, I have a friend that vapes all day everyday and has asthma and it doesn't affect him at all, and I make sure to blow the smoke into my fan and I watch it dissappear. So I don't know how it can be getting into the vents and going all the way to the other side of the house as she claims. I don't cloud my room up either I reduced to hitting my mod about 3 times every 30 minutes and she still complains.
 

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Maybe it is time to get your own place! Your Mom's house, she pays the bills- Her Rules!
You should vape outside, why aren't you vaping outside?- and respect her wishes whether you agree with her or not! I would be upset if I knew my mom had to use her inhaler because of my vape fog.
Find a job or 2 and move out to your own apartment and vape away. Maybe you could move in with one of the 100% of people that like your vape smell?
 

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Maybe it is time to get your own place! Your Mom's house, she pays the bills- Her Rules!
You should vape outside, why aren't you vaping outside?- and respect her wishes whether you agree with her or not! I would be upset if I knew my mom had to use her inhaler because of my vape fog.
Find a job or 2 and move out to your own apartment and vape away. Maybe you could move in with one of the 100% of people that like your vape smell?

Because the question is not about my personal life it is about the validity of her complaints and being concerned for her health because as I stated my friend has worse asthma then she does and vapes all day and it doesn't affect him so I don't think the vapor is really what's causing her issues. That and the fact that I've been doing it for 3 years and the complaints have just started recently.
 
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Vaping is something that you are doing in her house that is bothering Her, respect your mom and stop vaping in the house- and what effects her in her living environment. She doesn't want to be exposed to your Vape.
Stop vaping in the house and see what she has to complain about next, haha!
Why don't you vape outside?

Try to make her happy and go outside!
I have Grandkids and I do not expose them to my vape- I go outside, and don't vape in the car with them.
 
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Your friend with asthma is choosing to vape, your mother who doesn't want to be exposed to vape is having to have it forced on her by you.
If your mother is being over dramatic, then the easiest thing to do would be to go outside when you vape, simple request. You will be able to vape, and she will not be upset over having to smell it in her house.
Me as an ex-smoker has treated vaping the same- I respect others who don't want to be exposed to it.
 

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I have asthma and I vape, after quitting smoking, the asthma is almost non existent, vaping does not exasperate mine, I think mom is pulling at straws:)
But indeed it sounds like you need to think about getting your own place as suggested above, good luck and welcome to VU:wave:
 

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Just tell her you're disinfecting the air with her nagging mouth Lol
 

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I have asthma and I vape, after quitting smoking, the asthma is almost non existent, vaping does not exasperate mine, I think mom is pulling at straws:)
But indeed it sounds like you need to think about getting your own place as suggested above, good luck and welcome to VU:wave:
I have asthma too- I haven't used my inhaler since I started vaping! Or any Nebulizer treatments at the Drs since I switched to vaping.
 

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Here is a common sense (at least it should be) answer.
It may or may not trigger her asthma. In the end, it is HER house. Show some damn respect to your mother.

She doesn't like you vaping in her house. The fact you keep on doing it even though she doesn't like it, means you need your damn disrespectful ass kicked.

Maybe your mom is just being a complainer. But you are acting like a damn bone head. Don't vape in HER house.
 

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I have asthma and I haven't had any issues with it since I started vaping instead of smoking


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I won't even address your mother's oppositions to vaping. Whether or not she's making stuff up to give you reasons not to vape in the house is irrelevant. Her house, her rules, have some respect for her and her wishes.

If you're old enough to vape, you're old enough to get a job and get out.

Or, if you can't possibly manage growing up and moving out, get off your ass and vape outside.

Problem solved.
 

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The argument you are trying to win has already been lost. It's her name on the deed, not yours.
Grow the eff up and see the real reason for the conflict.
You sound like an FTL and like nearly every other FTL case, your household contributions are minimal to nonexistent.
Grow some hair and spread your damned wings. Achieve more, and bicker less.

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I think you're trying to find a way to convince her that she is wrong.
She may or may not be.. but this is not relevant because;
1- She's the boss (her house)
2- She's your mom (maybe she's trying to protect you)
3- She's a woman (you will learn eventually not to argue with a woman..you will always lose in the long run)

So, the choices seem to be;
A- Move out
B- Vape your highVG/flavoured juice outside
C- Vape only stealth no/low flav and high PG juice indoors in limited amounts.. maybe she can tolerate that ?
 

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When I first started vaping in 2010 my significant other had problems with the smell of the liquid. I have problems with certain scents as well. My only solution was to buy a air purifier. Believe it or not the vape residual sticks to surfaces such as windows.

I cannot vape in the car with him or he will start coughing. I believe it's real because I have seen the coughing fits. My son has asked me not to vape fruits in the house but is okay with other flavors. Since I co-habitat with others I comply.

OP: your mothers reaction belongs to her. You cannot change the way she reacts to the vape. You can do something to change your behavior such as buying a air purifier. I would discuss solutions with your mom before anything else. Negotiate respectively. Yes, vaping residue does linger throughout the house. Your mom is not wrong on this.
 

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I don't think mom would really like to negotiate at this point. She ought to just kick his ass out, and let him be the grown up he thinks he is.

If this is really making her uncomfortable, like the lung tightness she has complained about, this kid is a selfish little prick. His attitude is she is just complaining, and fuck her well being.

Anyone who treats others like that, especially their own mother, needs their ass stomped into a mudhole. I've got no tolerance for "snowflakes" that think their own desires are more important than anything else.
 
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@Darthvapor_n the only way I see you winning on this vaping in the house and irritating your mom - is that if she has moved into your place, then if she doesn't like it she can leave- or you can be a loving, respectful, and understanding son and Vape outside.
When my grown son was in my house, he doused himself with the most horrible cologne- while it didn't bother him, that smell would make me cough and sneeze and make my eyes water. I told him- and he stopped wearing that cologne!
Certain smells bother some people, maybe your mom is very sensitive to the smell of your vape?
 

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Personally, I think it's kinda ridiculous, but it seems to be clear that kiddo would rather have justification from vapers, than respect mom.
I guess me being an ex-smoker, I learned to respect others and treat my vape cloud the same! It is just so easy to go outside and make mom happy!
As a vaper, respect for your mom( or anyone) and her( or their) air should come first- no matter what any one of us thinks.
Nice suggestion- since he doesn't think he needs to take his vape outside!
 

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I guess me being an ex-smoker, I learned to respect others and treat my vape cloud the same! It is just so easy to go outside and make mom happy!
As a vaper, respect for your mom( or anyone) and her( or their) air should come first- no matter what any one of us thinks.
Nice suggestion- since he doesn't think he needs to take his vape outside!
Oh I totally feel the same way. I was much like this one, when I was growing up, but even at that age, I respected what she had to say to me. I suppose, as grown ups, it's the attitude of "easy for us to say". but also we've been there.

My parents knew that I smoked. They did themselves, for quite a while. But, when the time came that the rules changed to "no smoking in the house", I didn't. "Because we said so" used to actually mean something.
 

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Thank you everyone that actually answered the question and said whether or not vaping affects others around them. To everyone else that said move out and be respect the rules, blah blah blah, it's easy to type that, but you probably shouldn't say stupid shit and act all high and mighty because you don't know their situation
 

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I don't think mom would really like to negotiate at this point. She ought to just kick his ass out, and let him be the grown up he thinks he is.

If this is really making her uncomfortable, like the lung tightness she has complained about, this kid is a selfish little prick. His attitude is she is just complaining, and fuck her well being.

Anyone who treats others like that, especially their own mother, needs their ass stomped into a mudhole. I've got no tolerance for "snowflakes" that think their own desires are more important than anything else.

Hey big tough guy If I didn't care I wouldn't have asked the question. I have researched PG and VG allergies, asthma and vaping and have found nothing about lung tightness. Therefore I am worried that there is something else going on with her. Oh and don't assume shit about people cause you look like a real ass.
 

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Thank you everyone that actually answered the question and said whether or not vaping affects others around them. To everyone else that said move out and be respect the rules, blah blah blah, it's easy to type that, but you probably shouldn't say stupid shit and act all high and mighty because you don't know their situation
Keep telling yourself that.

Fact is, you allow yourself to be in the position to live with your mother. I don't need to "know your situation".

You laid it out there for us, as to what kind of a person you are. The fact you are not even a little embarrassed about the way you treat and talk to your mother, says volumes about you and your situation. You aren't even bothered by it here, when people call you out on being a douche.

Pull your lip over your head and swallow. Do us all a favor.
 

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Hey big tough guy If I didn't care I wouldn't have asked the question. I have researched PG and VG allergies, asthma and vaping and have found nothing about lung tightness. Therefore I am worried that there is something else going on with her. Oh and don't assume shit about people cause you look like a real ass.

Well stupid ass, there are people who are allergic to pg and vg. So maybe spend time RESEARCHING something, rather than eating Cheetos, playing video games, and jerking off in your mommies basement.
 

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You're still young, so living with you parents is still ok.
The fact is that no advice we can give can change your relations with you parents and the way your mom reacts to vaping, whether legit or psychosomatic.
You'll have to find a compromise on your own or just go vape in the backyard/roof/balcony/stairwell.
 

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Thank you everyone that actually answered the question and said whether or not vaping affects others around them. To everyone else that said move out and be respect the rules, blah blah blah, it's easy to type that, but you probably shouldn't say stupid shit and act all high and mighty because you don't know their situation
Why you're living at home is irrelevant. The fact is that you are, and as long as you are living under someone else's roof, their rules, well, rule. And ESPECIALLY when it's your parent. If you don't like the situation, do something about it that does not involve disrespecting your mother. You might think it's easy to type that, but you'd be totally wrong. I am sure a lot of us have been in your situation, living at home under rules you don't like, past the age of majority. A lot of us have been there. I know I was after I left my first wife, and I gladly obeyed the rules (no smoking in the house, no "overnight guests", do your own cooking and laundry, buy your own food, kick in for utilities). Took me five or six months to find a place that was affordable, but I did, and I was grateful that I had a place to stay in the interim. And, some of us, we don't have our mothers and would gladly obey each and every rule of the house again if we only had the opportunity to do so. You're not special, your situation isn't special, and the only stupid shit here is the very fact that this thread even exists. Hell, even if you owned the house and she moved in with you, she's your mom for chrissakes. Have some respect and go outside.
 

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Well stupid ass, there are people who are allergic to pg and vg. So maybe spend time RESEARCHING something, rather than eating Cheetos, playing video games, and jerking off in your mommies basement.
Do you know how to read?
 

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Do you know how to read?
I do.

I also know how to be a man. Something you should learn how to do, since you seem to be a dumb ass toddler. Get a job and get the fuck out. Live life on your own terms, and stop being a drag on your mother.
 

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Why you're living at home is irrelevant. The fact is that you are, and as long as you are living under someone else's roof, their rules, well, rule. And ESPECIALLY when it's your parent. If you don't like the situation, do something about it that does not involve disrespecting your mother. You might think it's easy to type that, but you'd be totally wrong. I am sure a lot of us have been in your situation, living at home under rules you don't like, past the age of majority. A lot of us have been there. I know I was after I left my first wife, and I gladly obeyed the rules (no smoking in the house, no "overnight guests", do your own cooking and laundry, buy your own food, kick in for utilities). Took me five or six months to find a place that was affordable, but I did, and I was grateful that I had a place to stay in the interim. And, some of us, we don't have our mothers and would gladly obey each and every rule of the house again if we only had the opportunity to do so. You're not special, your situation isn't special, and the only stupid shit here is the very fact that this thread even exists. Hell, even if you owned the house and she moved in with you, she's your mom for chrissakes. Have some respect and go outside.
You seem to be missing the point of the question so I will try to help clarify for you. I am looking for input about her claims of her ashmta getting worse and her lungs tightening up from vapor. I am all for going outside since I am rarely home anyways, I'm just trying to figure out if the vapor is really what's causing her issues or if she is just blaming it on that because she doesn't know enough about it. I think something else is going on with her and I am concerned because I haven't found anyone that has issues with asthma and vaping or anything about their lungs tightening up. There has been times where she's sent me text messages telling me to stop vaping and complaining about her asthma when I am not even home and haven't been all day.
 

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I do.

I also know how to be a man. Something you should learn how to do, since you seem to be a dumb ass toddler. Get a job and get the fuck out. Live life on your own terms, and stop being a drag on your mother.

Clearly you don't because I said I did research and that none of the symptoms of a PG or VG allergy has tightness of the lungs. That's the whole point of a question. If you would like to come show me how to fit an extra $800 for an apartment into my budget I'm all for it.
 

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Clearly you don't because I said I did research and that none of the symptoms of a PG or VG allergy has tightness of the lungs. That's the whole point of a question. If you would like to come show me how to fit an extra $800 for an apartment into my budget I'm all for it.
There are vapers here that have experienced chest tightness from one, or the other, yes. If you're concerned about her health, a Dr is the best to give you medical feedback. For those with severe asthma, any number of things can set it off.
 

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There are vapers here that have experienced chest tightness from one, or the other, yes. If you're concerned about her health, a Dr is the best to give you medical feedback. For those with severe asthma, any number of things can set it off.
Thank you!
 

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You seem to be missing the point of the question so I will try to help clarify for you. I am looking for input about her claims of her ashmta getting worse and her lungs tightening up from vapor. I am all for going outside since I am rarely home anyways, I'm just trying to figure out if the vapor is really what's causing her issues or if she is just blaming it on that because she doesn't know enough about it. I think something else is going on with her and I am concerned because I haven't found anyone that has issues with asthma and vaping or anything about their lungs tightening up. There has been times where she's sent me text messages telling me to stop vaping and complaining about her asthma when I am not even home and haven't been all day.
Well, if you reread your first post, you'll clearly see how the "concerns" you have are a 50/50 proposition, even to your point of emphasizing the "best" being a merely aesthetic issue of cloudiness and seeking excuses. So you're not really fooling anyone by heading down a sidetrack after being already derailed.

If you are legitimately concerned about your mother's health, the appropriate response is to express that concern to her and ask her to see a doctor. There are no medical professionals who can diagnose a third person problem remotely, she needs to see a doctor. And, again, if you're concerned, you should be doing everything you can to make it easy for her to do so. And, of course, go outside to vape.
 

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Clearly you don't because I said I did research and that none of the symptoms of a PG or VG allergy has tightness of the lungs. That's the whole point of a question. If you would like to come show me how to fit an extra $800 for an apartment into my budget I'm all for it.
It's pretty common knowledge that some people are sensitive to pg or vg. You didn't put much effort into it. Matter of fact, you didn't even frame it as a "concern" at all here. You came here thinking very little of her problems. You were basically accusing her of making shit up because you are mad about her not wanting you to vape in the house.

If you are having budget problems, pay attention to what you spend and what you earn. If you have a full time job, there is no reason why you can't live in your own place. You will have to learn what priorities are.
 

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Thank you everyone that actually answered the question and said whether or not vaping affects others around them. To everyone else that said move out and be respect the rules, blah blah blah, it's easy to type that, but you probably shouldn't say stupid shit and act all high and mighty because you don't know their situation
Truth be told, every last one of us can relate to your situation.
When our situation was similar to yours, we delt with it by moving out.
What we don't understand is why it is so difficult for you to see the misery of what will be perpetual conflict as you attempt to assert yourself against the will of another.

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Maybe you should a calm discussion with your mom. Maybe she could be making it up because of something she heard on the news. Try asking her about it and see what she has to say. Sometimes parents, moms in particular, are a little high strung. Not that I'm saying yours is. Mine used to be. I think until you get to the root of the problem, you should either open your window or vape outside, though. Hope this helps you out some.

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It's pretty common knowledge that some people are sensitive to pg or vg. You didn't put much effort into it. Matter of fact, you didn't even frame it as a "concern" at all here. You came here thinking very little of her problems. You were basically accusing her of making shit up because you are mad about her not wanting you to vape in the house.

If you are having budget problems, pay attention to what you spend and what you earn. If you have a full time job, there is no reason why you can't live in your own place. You will have to learn what priorities are.
Yeah many people are sensitive but have completely different symptoms. From what I have found Tightness of the lungs is not a symptom of a PG/VG allergy or sensitivity whatever you want to call it. And since you keep going back to it, moving out is not an option for me, if I had the means I would've done it as soon as I turned 18.
 

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Truth be told, every last one of us can relate to your situation.
When our situation was similar to yours, we delt with it by moving out.
What we don't understand is why it is so difficult for you to see the misery of what will be perpetual conflict as you attempt to assert yourself against the will of another.

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I'm pretty certain you can't. But I guess the way I worded the question was wrong and most people are missing the point.
 

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I'm pretty certain you can't. But I guess the way I worded the question was wrong and most people are missing the point.
Riiiiight... because none of us ever worked full time jobs to put ourselves through full time school while floating rent, utilities, and meals all on our own... Please.
 

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Yeah many people are sensitive but have completely different symptoms. From what I have found Tightness of the lungs is not a symptom of a PG/VG allergy or sensitivity whatever you want to call it. And since you keep going back to it, moving out is not an option for me, if I had the means I would've done it as soon as I turned 18.


Well, I'm far from the only one that gets tight/heavy lungs from max VG. So, again, you are not doing a very good job of researching. I'm done hearing about it, because you weren't doing anything. This is all a reaction from the backlash you are receiving.

It is an option. You are just making excuses. Poor snowflake, the world isn't fair, is it?
 

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Has your mom asked you not to vape in the house?
I am not a Dr and maybe you suggest for her to go to one, since you think it cannot be your vape is making her asthma worse.
 

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My guess is some of you are old enough to forget how y'all were at that age. I'm 26 and it is still fresh enough for me to understand. Yes I understand he needs to respect his mothers wishes. But I also know this is not the root of the problem. He is at that age where at any time he is able he can leave the nest and his mom is probably torn between wanting her baby to fly and to stay. There is probably other things like clean your room, take on more responsibilities blah blah blah.

It isn't going to help with all y'all yellin' at him to do this and do that.... Giving advice nicely is more helpful to teenagers than constantly yelling and spouting off that he is being disrespectful. Try seeing both sides.... Just my two cents but whatevs.

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I remember, and I can look back and see where I was completely and totally wrong. When I was 20, there was no easy access to the internet. Dial-up was still off in the future. I didn't have the benefit of disinterested parties looking at my situation with complete objectivity. Would I have listened? I don't know, maybe. But I sure as hell wouldn't come back and tell people who've BTDT that they're spouting stupid shit and don't know what they're talking about.
 

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Yeah, I don't envy his age. If I could go back, that is not the age I'd choose. Fuck no.
100%, wholeheartedly agree. I know a lot of folks would dread the teenage years, I wouldn't. They were the last breaths of the complete and total freedom of childhood. Late teens and early twenties... trying to figure out where you're going and what you want to do, all in a space of only a few years, really... no thanks. Any age but then, thank you very much.
 

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Riiiiight... because none of us ever worked full time jobs to put ourselves through full time school while floating rent, utilities, and meals all on our own... Please.
I'm fairly sure your parents didn't stick you with 3 cars to pay for along with full coverage insurance, a lawsuit on one of the cars, along with all your other expenses and make you quit your career because it's "too dangerous" no.
 

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