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RX 200 vs Noisy Cricket

Exaco

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Both is made by Wismec, i personally own NC so far, thinking about getting RX in the future, but i have doubts..

How does they compare in performance e.g. Cloud Chasing ? Triple battery regulated parallel should outperform the Noisy Cricket or no ?

So basically which option is better for clouds?

1) Dual-Quad Coil at 0.08ohm @ 4.2volts @ 200w ( Should be challenging to inhale i guess )
2) Dual coil at 0.5ohm @ 8.4volts @ 140w
 
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robot zombie

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Somewhat irrelevant, but the RX200 is triple-battery series.

The power is pretty comparable. The RX200 has a max output of 9v, while the cricket hits maybe 7.8v on fresh cells. The current ceiling puts the cricket at a max of just over 200w, actually. A .3 gives you 206w for 26A.

It really is a question of what sorts of builds you want to do. They can both be made to perform more or less the same, but likely with different combinations of gauges. Different balances of mass, heat flux/capacity, and wattage can get you similar results.

The RX200 would likely be easier to work with, since it gives you a wider range of builds to work with. You basically have to build a .3 to hit 200w on the cricket, while the RX200 can do it anywhere from the minimum resistance to ~.4. Easier on batteries, too. 200w or not, the RX200 gives you more access to its power across its wattage range, whereas the cricket kind of has "steps" in terms of the relationship between resistance and power. I.e., you build x coil to run at y power. Not so true with the RX200.

Honestly, the cricket is a great cloud mod, but the real appeal is the flavor. Part of this is mech-magic... ...that soft power curve just does things. It also allows you build massive coils at higher resistances with thinner wire, which gives the vape a certain texture and fullness that's harder to attain with really low sub-ohm coils comprised of lower gauges. You get a mid-high-powered flavor build with great battery life. You can do the same with RX200 but somehow, it's not the same. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

I guess your inhale is worth considering, too. The cricket is generally gonna be a smoother vape because it's a mech. Depending on your style, you may be able to take deeper pulls with the cricket than you would with an RX200, which is more forward. Depends on if you're a short-drag or long-drag type of guy.
 
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Spaceman_Spiff

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I have both and I find that most of my builds can be easily swapped between the two. The RX doesn't fit in one's pocket very well, so I use the NC as a going-out mod while the RX is my "desk vape." I went through a bunch of mods before getting these two, but they are both excellent devices so I've settled into them.

My typical build is dual parallel fused claptons, with 26 or 28 AWG cores and 36 AWG outer, between .27 ohms and .5 ohms depending on core wire and number of wraps. Works great on both mods, and it's nice to have the flexibility of the RX to try builds that wouldn't work on the NC. The RX fires down to .1, so your .08 build is borderline and might not fire on the RX. If you end up building a little low for the NC (< .25 ohms) then you can move it over to the RX and have a great vape.

If you're looking to build big coils with lots of wire, you really can't go wrong with either one. I honestly don't notice much difference at all in how they vape at about the same wattage.
 
Exaco

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centella4u said:
Yeah, how could you compare these two?


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Cloud Size on same juice/batts and coil setup that brings these mods at their full potential. EZ
The advantage for RX so far is that RX supports bigger attys and that plays pretty major role also it uses 3 batts.. I just dunno how much regulation restricts the potential of 3 batteries *parallel?* compared to unregulated series with 2 batts and max 22mm atty.

Seems like pretty much i've asked this question and answered myself.
 
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centella4u

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The RX200 isn't a Parallel mod, it's a series mod, one of the battery is rightside up while the other 2 are upside down. I have yet to see a "Parallel" mod that uses 3 batteries. Even the Koopor Primus that uses 3 batteries and the batteries face the same direction is still a series mod.
I'm not good at explaining scientific term. But series and parallel are different.


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robot zombie

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Exaco said:
Cloud Size on same juice/batts and coil setup that brings these mods at their full potential. EZ
The advantage for RX so far is that RX supports bigger attys and that plays pretty major role also it uses 3 batts.. I just dunno how much regulation restricts the potential of 3 batteries *parallel?* compared to unregulated series with 2 batts and max 22mm atty.
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Series or parallel makes no difference outside of battery life. Regulated 200w is always 200w, series or parallel. Whether the batteries push high-voltage or high-current doesn't affect the coil, since the mod is going to convert to and output the same voltage and current to the coil regardless of how the power is attained. Ohm's law dictates a fixed voltage-current ratio for "x" resistor to achieve "y" wattage. When it comes to reggy boxes, there are several ways to get your power from the batteries, but only one way to give it to the atty.

The RX is set up in series because it's more power-efficient to bring voltage down than it is to generate extra voltage. It's a matter of wasting less power and drawing less current. 3 18650's kick out 12v in series, but the RX200's output caps at 9v, not all that much higher than the cricket. And besides, the input current limit of 23A caps it out at 200w, so even though it can kick out 9v, it can't really make full use of it.

At the 200w max, you can't use the RX's 9v to get more power than the cricket's roughly 8v can push with 30A... ...they even out. If a .3 on the NC gets 200w at 8v, then 8v is all the RX can give the same coil because of the wattage limit. A.4 at 9v on the RX is still only 200w. You feel?

But you're right, you can use large atties with big, super-low sub-ohm coils on the RX200, which you can't do with the cricket without really pushing the batteries.

But you can still do essentially the same thing with the cricket by using big-ass fused claptons and aliens with higher ohms and lots of wraps. Hell, you can stack 4 of them in a velocity-style 22mm if you want. A 25mm atty rigged with double-wides will look goofy as shit on top of the cricket, but it will perform just as well as a super-low sub-ohm 25mm on the RX. Plenty of power to fill em out. I've seen people use 25mm atties very effectively with the cricket.

Power-wise, they really are pretty matched. The real performance differences are gonna be the battery life and the hit. Do you like the slower, more building mech hit? Or the straight-to-the-chest reggy hit? Which one's easier and more comfortable for you?

Personally, I think 200w is a lot of power to be having that regulated push behind. Unregulated's smoother hit might make it easier to get a deeper hit.

With both maxed, it's pretty much same power, same mass, same vapor output... ...but different feel. The RX200 delivers flat, even power, while the NC is peaky. That's the only key difference.
 
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